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mmoy

11/13/08 10:46 AM

#71073 RE: Sarmad #71071

Yesterday's large drop was on surprisingly low volume which meant that sellers were allowed to just sell with little in the way of buyers out there. Perhaps those that want to be out are out (in terms of big players).

Tradable bounce? Maybe. Treasury announced a bailout by the FDIC for GE yesterday so the FDIC is going to back GE Capital's $139 billion in debt. The funny thind is that the FDIC only has about $40 billion in its insurance fund.

Next week is options expirations too so maybe we get a countertrend bounce for a week or at least a few days.

That mall operator (second-largest in the US) dropped to $0.37 cents yesterday. If it does go bankrupt, they will have to sell their commercial properties into an illiquid market which should drop prices considerably. This could result in a further mark-to-market of other commercial real estate companies triggering collatoral problems with other REITS on their debt.

It feels to me that the economy has a ways to go to get to recovery. The stock market can always anticipate that. But I think that it's too early for the long run.
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Saturn V

11/13/08 10:59 AM

#71075 RE: Sarmad #71071

Too early to draw conclusions from the slight uptick. Remember that the "Intel news" has already been heavily built into the stock price, because of the erosion in PE multiples since December and reaction to Otilleni's comments of a week ago. Finally all that the market has been fearing has finally happened to Intel.

I wish that the Obama Administration would take office next week. This ten week pause is killing. The economy is an inward spiral of lower consumer spending giving rise to higher unemployment and lower stock price, which is giving even less consumer spending. The lame duck administration has been ineffective in halting this, and the new one will not be there for a while. In the interim the hole keeps on getting deeper at a rapid rate, and it will take much longer to dig out.

I am surprised by the speed of the change in Intel's guidance. There must have been a large number of order cancellations, since the new guidance is significantly lower than the old minimum. Means that there will be significant inventory accumulation. No wonder Maloney talked of shipping goods within 24 hours. This becomes a "turns business" environment. Customers do not place orders weeks or months ahead, since they can buy immediately. This typically leads to even worse visibility into the business.

Siince the capacity constraints on Atom are now gone, its ASP will probably drop and will probably take a bigger chunk of AMDs business, ie the bottom end of the market, where users do not go for the best price performance ratio, but buy the cheapest product despite the poor performance. The financial bleeding from AMD will definitely get a lot worse, at a time when Abu Dhabis income is in a free fall. The deal will most likely get renegotiated, which is not the best situation for AMD.
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RobertG

11/13/08 1:08 PM

#71093 RE: Sarmad #71071

RE:Professor, regarding what you said earlier. When bad news is ignored, it means the bottom is at hand.

Intel and markets are falling apart. I wish guys would quit jinxing them. Could actually close at 12 year low on the stock today...