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JPD3

08/03/08 11:05 PM

#5560 RE: janice shell #5557

Ok, but when you go to this link for the reason for the disqualificaton...Why was he charged on the grounds of section 5 only (ie, summary conviction) and not section 4(fraud) or section 9(unfit to be director) or section 10(participating in wrongful trading)...and didn't S.L. say that he was left holding the bag for a particular company in the UK and was left with no paperwork or audit papers and so was caught in a mess with the regulatory body? and didnt he also say the the charge was BS and he was currently in the process of attacking the charge to get it cleared..I know several university students that have been at the wrong place at the wrong time...Do you have any PROOF that SL is a crook or do you jus have these repeat posts that dont really imply much...I could be wrong but what exactly is a summary conviction? and if he was involved in fraud, would that not have be the time to charge him? Unless he WASNT charged for fraud cause there was NO real fraud??Doesnt add up at all? Let me save you some time to extract the point of this link you provided...This ACTUALLY VERIFIED the CLAIM that S.L. is not connected to Fraud, misconduct traiding or any of the other NINE charges that he could have received, since this was a court investigation,,,and as far as I know, THIS is what a 'summary charge' is :
(taken from defencelaw.com/classification.html)


" Summary conviction offences encompass the most minor offences in the Criminal Code. Examples are "communicate for the purpose of obtaining the sexual services of a prostitute," "cause disturbance," and "harassing telephone calls."

"Unless a different penalty is specified, summary conviction offences are punishable by a fine of up to $2,000 or six months' jail or both."

"You cannot be fingerprinted for a summary conviction offence"

SOOOO, was he not given this charge after demeaning a stockholder (although the nature of this stockholder's approach is not verified or documented)..Its a no brainer that the guy has a temper (as evident from his harsh reaction to many of your approched on FFGO board)but does one having a temper mean that they are unfit to drive a company to success and push up the current PPS? Somehow, I am not convinced that your link even proved anything that wasn't already known, but good attempt though..

-PD




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JPD3

08/03/08 11:23 PM

#5563 RE: janice shell #5557

and I take it that your posting was in response to this 'claim ' that I made in my original posting :

"even the scam accusations cannot be concluded YET in the Court of Law, so I will not be jumping the gun, so to speak"

But, you read my response to the link you provided, Right? Then are not the other sections (that S.L could have been charged with) more applicable if he was a scammer? And does being charged with a 'summary conviction' only mean the of ALL the possibilites to charge him, he was ONLY found guilty of the single section FIVE charge (which is a summary conviction) and as I mentioned in my response...It this conviction not the most MINOR of all the convictions possible , and did he not only receive the LEAST amount of disqualification time , while the other more SEVERE charges would have led to a MAX time of 15 years? Then, my point is that...IF Stephen Lumb was a SCAM ARTIST why was the court NOT able to charge him as one???Questions that we all should be thinking about...I mean, Im starting to find it more and more harder to beleive that this so called 'notorious scam artist' has evades multiple countries from being charged and labeled as one...Did you even read the link you sent me? I would LOVE to hear what others think about the points that I have raised here, as Janice has kindly brought of this issue about S.L. once again..And BTW, this claim and analysis IS very relevant to HGLC as it is possibly S.L.'s company bidding for it, then why have some of my posts been kindly deleted once again???I am very confused as to why some post freely, and provide links as well as claims and aligations, but when others disagree with a poster or their behavior, all of the sudden their postings get deleted...is this not a discussion board, so we can discuss our DD and perspective relating to our invested capital? Then, what up wit these deletions? Are we children or underage posting here or are we all adults?

-PD