Replies to post #114123 on The Question and Answer Board (IHUB)

[flyonawall]

YES! Thank you and there is a GOD! And his name is Dave! LOL LOL LOL j/k. Thank you seriously for this clarification! I really thought I was going nuts! Dave you da man! Jean

PS: Please take note that the deletions have happened under that and the poster has stated this same thing on the board, FYI

[Rover_az]

bingo.

[Mariner*]

Well done Dave, a good moderator maintains neutrality on a stock specific board and doesn't take sides in discrimination of expression one way or the other. Within the TOU
But, of course is free to express themselves one way or the other, as any other poster on the board.

[puppydotcom]

MUCH BETTER

[doggone]

Dave, i am sincerely impressed with the fairness of your response to that post and wish to thank you for taking the time and making the effort. You have helped those of us who may have been confused, tremendously. Again , thank you! DOG

[Rover_az]

Ok - What's wrong with the headers?

[Max Power]

hmmmm, we are talking about a pink sheet stock dave. you can't short pink sheets. so your answer is irrelevant in this situation

[ergo sum]

Boxes are a little big but top boards works again.

[soupoftheday]

What in the world are you doing with the tabs???

[thegoodlifeGeo]

OK, I will answer a long post with an equally long-winded reply...
Your response was one of the most well thought out pro-bashing responses I have ever seen... I applaud your carefully worded responses, but it is just like the politician who kisses the babies at a rally, we know they do not mean it, it is all for show...
You know the more I read on Ihub, the more convinced I am that it is not only run by people interested in the promotion of Market Manipulation, but are making their living off it.
Your response is what is all wrong with this board and the reason it should probably be shut down. I know the SEC would like that BTW...
It would never happen, but this and all other boards like it are the biggest reason for the problems we have in the stock market today.
MM's are allowed free rain to spout whatever Crap they want to and there is no one to stop them. You actually help protect them so I cannot think much for your motives.
I am certain most of the stocks we are invested in would be Much higher without the ability to bash and scare investors out as it is happening now...
I used to be such a Free Speech advocate, then I became a Stock Investor and started reading these boards and know better... lol...
The idealism of "Everyone having an equal say" is great in theory, but we all know that the bashers and MM's know Exactly what to say and when to say it to cause panic and weak hands to sell whenever they want.
I have known even "Stong hands" to break and sell after MM's have successfully brought a stock down to nothing. They simply have no choice. Better to take something than nothing...
The truly honest people out here, the real investors who are trying to make honest money have little chance under the current system of winning. As long as there are paid bashers and people defending them, we will never have a fair system. As long as Short Selling is allowed to exist we will never have a level playing field...

To all the people out there who try to fight the bashing, professional or otherwise, keep it up. You are the only line of defense against it...

"Bottom Line" The only ones winning this investment game right now are MM's and they are currently doing it with the help of Ihub and other boards like it...
Until Short selling is abolished and people start to get prosecuted for the Lies and Half-Truths they pretend are facts and supported by many of the mods on Ihub, we are all going to have a lot of problems making money in the stock market...

All MHO of course.
Good Luck everyone,
Cheers,
ThegoodlifeGeo

[investor911]

Dave:

There is nothing wrong in posting negatives about any stock, as it's a part of discussion. Point is if you post 100 messages and 90% of them are repetitive , it's a SPAM, and should be handled as per iHUB TOU.

Regards,
911

[J.C.N.]

IH Geek [Dave],

In the two plus years I have been a paying member for IHUB I have learned a great deal. Shelly helped me to understand that positive and negative views on a stock with a few words changed here or there are beneficial to the forum and a healthy discussion.

With that in mind I do see recently that the BLDV board has gotten out of hand. IMHO this could be said of many boards in the cycle of things.

Repetitive posts whether positive or negative about the same thing is a TOU Violation. I have for the most part sat back and watched many negative posts remain by the same posters that ask repetitive questions and add no value to the BLDV board.

In the sense of wanting to not cause a hostile environment I think that Admin would benefit as would the BLDV board and any IHUB boards that have similar situations going forward if certain posters with little or no DD causing repetitive posts were warned and dealt with according to TOU.

IMHO many of the problems on IHUB that I see are self fulfilling when there is not consistency across the board.

Sometimes I see a person post DD on a stock like BLDV and even though it does not violate TOU the post is removed. I am not able to give examples because the posts are gone.

On the other hand when negative comments are made and are not backed up with anything other than opinion or the negative post questions over and over valid DD proven by more than one poster that post and similar posts are allowed to remain.

When these same negative posters are ask to provide valid DD or do something active like be involved in a conference call by a poster who has gained a level of integrity either no comment is made or the offer is ignored and these posters continue to question,try to invalidate,cause fear etc. on the board and try to undermine posters.

In my opinion these types of actions are just as harmful and fall under either a new catagory of TOU violation or should.

It seems that free rein is allowed if you are bashing a stock and need no DD or facts and can do most anything including try to undermine and basically call a poster a liar.

Yet when posters who have done the DD on a stock even touch on a negative posters methods,mode of operation etc. they are banned, thrown in jail or otherwise warned privately.

IMHO its a double standard and it appears by what I continue to see that IHUB has a double standard.

As a matter of argument sake. I imagine that many of my posts if I chose to do so would stay on a board if I started becoming a so called basher on stocks with no information,DD etc.

Just my opinion and a little food for thought to make IMHO IHUB a better place with more integrity to go forward.

If my words are meaningless for the greater good of this message board then feel free to not comment and I will go on about my business. If however you are interested in a positive and helpful dialog then by all means consider tweaking your rules to deal with some of these issues.

Since many posters trade and or post on emotions they can get caught up in the moment and post something from frustration because they see over and over that a poster gets to do most anything if they are a negative poster. I understand that positive posters also do some to da moon,weeeeeeee,etc. that I do not like either so there is a balance needed of course.

I am all for positive or negative posts about a stock like BLDV if they have meat and substance to prove one way or another about a stock. The meat posts are not what I am talking about.

As I see it part of the problem I see over and over is a poster does DD on a stock and then a person or group of people like on the BLDV board come and just tear apart(with repetitive/not fact) every piece of DD or they focus on an item that has nothing to do with the DD and keep pounding it again and again.

Frustration sets in when a poster or posters feel that they cannot be heard on a board with valid,factual information that is up to date because the opinions and negativity outweigh any factual data. Sort of a negative tag team mentality in the IHUB ring.

IMHO if this was brought under control I think you would solve at least 50% of the emotional upheaval you see on most of the message boards. A level playing field makes for getting along. An uneven or heavy hand one way or another on a board makes Billy want to pick up his marbles and go home.

A good word picture IMHO is IHUB allows bullies to come to the playground and try to steal other peoples marbles and when someone complains then Admin says I didn't see anything or says are you sure they were your marbles in the first place.

Integrity goes a long way in helping people feel safe and secure in their IHUB neighborhood.

IMHO you can continue to run IHUB the way you are or you can chose to change it for the better. If you don't wish to change it then you will lose members because they will just grow tired of the same old same old.

Brent

[doggone]

Dave, I thought your reply to this post was most impressive. Now i would like an opinion on this matter, a matter concerning the same board of which the person you address in your post is a moderator.
Can you explain to me the reasoning and or justification for deletion of the post below. a post in reply to another moderator,investor911, on this board. I have included the other posts that apply as well. Admin Dan says that it was the result of a series of deletions. WHY? The Mr. priestley in question is reportedly affiliated with BLDV. there are numerous posts that support this as on- topic, here are some;
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=30870531
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=30861769
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=30843230
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=30843202
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=30842555
There are others but I think these are sufficient to make the point.
I believe what is happening is this, certain posters will make false or erroneous posts, someone will prove them so and they will then delete their post. (Seems i read somewhere on IHUB handbook that this was an improper procedure if not done for legitimate reasons) If their post goes unchallenged their post will remain. As a result biased and misleading information is thus distributed on the board in planned orchestration and with the corroboration of the moderators, often by the moderators.
Why can't admin see what is occuring on the BLDV site. Could it be that they do? Is admin a party to the deceitful and misleading inforrmation being presented there? Please explain, I sincerely ask that you take a look at what is occuring on the BLDV board. I ask also that you review the replies I recieved from admin this explanation is this appropriate , "The post that one addressed was deleted as off topic by the very same mod who made the post. I guess he decided his own post was off topic." Pay particular attention to post #155509 as it was written by the subject moderator and at this time remains undeleted. strange don't you think, that is if admins first explanation to me is appropriate. At the time of this post ll links below still appear on the bldv board.
Where is the Mod Squad? Thanks, Dog
Here is my post, a reply to the post by Investor911, a post that he then deleted himself. it is copied in my deleted post.

"Investor911, It appears that you have once again fallen victim to false or erroneous information. don't give up though, we need to contact some of these people who are supposedly associated with blue diamond ventures, see what they have to say about the recent disclosures... Dog----searching and watching. See below.
Posted by: investor911 Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:32:19 PM
In reply to: doggone who wrote msg# 15453
"Let me give you another hint- and then I am out
[e-mail]
I am sure, you know who he is"

(2nd part of my reply)
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Here are some subsequent posts by other members;

Posted by: goforthebet Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:36:08 PM In reply to: None Post # of 15518
I sent the mail about and it went through.. maybe he got such a lot of mails that the mailbox is full.. I sent it inmediately after 911 posted the address
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=30931499

Posted by: jraska Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:13:03 PM In reply to: investor911 who wrote msg# 15509 Post # of 15516
Guess he deleted his own post, may of either found the error or decide he ??????????????
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?
message_id=30930968
( this post is addressed to Investor911 so jraska is implying that i deleted my own post)

Posted by: investor911 Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:50:10 PM In reply to: A deleted message Post # of 15516
You are good at DD DOG? That worked for me as recent as last FRIDAY.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=30930451