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ChipGeek

11/17/07 5:19 PM

#52922 RE: kpf #52920

This is one of the most asinine arguments I've ever read on this board.

No, Intel has not explicitly provided details behind the design of Silverthorne. Nor do they for any product. Everybody knows that Silverthorne is a brand-new, from-the-ground-up design. Except you. I wonder why that is?

You know, Intel has never explicitly stated that Itanium is a separate design from Xeon. You might be on to something here....

Sheesh!

smooth2o

11/17/07 7:10 PM

#52931 RE: kpf #52920

I don't know what you're getting at. Siverthorne is part of a new Menlow platform, therefore redesigned in 45nm for a new market (expected to be much higher volume than the UMPC devices previously as a result of being more functional and higher performance, from the link). What I quoted was this:

The 45 nm Silverthorne chip is expected to be as fast as the second-generation of Pentium M processors, while running in a power envelope between 0.6 and 2.0 watts.

That's pretty fast for an embedded part.

Smooth

Elmer Phud

11/17/07 7:35 PM

#52934 RE: kpf #52920

Klaus -

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32404/135/

Read this interview with Paul Otellini.

Manufactured in 45 nm, Intel can squeeze about 2500 Silverthorne processor on one 300 mm wafer.

You're not dumb although you like to act that way sometimes. Do the math. That's about 25mm2.

tecate

11/17/07 7:39 PM

#52935 RE: kpf #52920

You know my husband works at the TDC in Austin right?

drjohn

11/17/07 8:31 PM

#52937 RE: kpf #52920

RE:The processor will replace the recently and quietly introduced A100 and A110 UMPC CPUs, which are basically under-clocked (600 and 800 MHz, respectively)

I was playing with the ipod touch today, this is defintely something for the younger crowd, surfing on wifi safari for someone over 45 on the tiny screen was painfull, the touch screen keyboard was for someone with tiny fingertips. This product from samsung is probably on the upgrade path to silverton. After playing with the ipod touch I can say its a great product but not a killer, the boys from korea and japan can match this, heck even microsoft will eventually get it right.


http://www.samsung.com/us/experience/products/view.do?JobFL=VIEW&PageNo=1&OrderFL=DATE&EXPRV_SEQ=10065