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02/17/25 10:57 AM

#513848 RE: brooklyn13 #513844

Give it up genocide girl, Biden isn't president any more and if you hadn't noticed, musk is pres now. Are you still worried about the laptop too?
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fuagf

02/17/25 4:04 PM

#513907 RE: brooklyn13 #513844

brooklyn13, Deepest apology we are not able to satisfy your reading needs every day you
happen to wander by.

More Zionist b.s.?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/02/16/vance-afd-neo-nazi-weidel-germany/
"With all the AfD’s neo-Nazi eruptions, there have been no apologies, no contrition, no retreats. Those eruptions including Weidel’s own recent rallies, where she has basked in chants of “Alice für Deutschland,” a homophonic play on the banned Nazi slogan “Alles für Deutschland.”"
P - Well, at least this is better than "Genocide Joe" and AIPAC running our government, amirite? Although this topic, I'm sure, is less interesting than constantly arguing with MAGA social media trolls.
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You are right that we do give conservative trolls more voice than most all conservative boards around give to reprobates such as we. Some of us were banned basically for fact checking on conservative boards. And we liberals are impossible to have civil conversation with. We give more voice because we appreciate the right of free speech. It was part of our founder's DNA, and it is part of ours.

You are right, there are the problems in the

DRC:

I don't use Apple devices so no Siri to interrogate.
[...]Apple accused of covering up war crimes by willfully using Congo conflict minerals
Answer
Apple is facing serious allegations from the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) over the use of conflict minerals in its supply chain. The DRC has filed criminal complaints against Apple subsidiaries in France and Belgium, accusing the tech giant of complicity in crimes committed by armed groups controlling certain mining operations in eastern Congo. These groups are linked to severe human rights abuses, including massacres, forced labor, and environmental destruction.
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If the US was funding and arming China's military, you could bet your fucking bigoted
ethnonationalist ass there would be an enormous backlash against that.
Ditto the DRC.
You seem intent on justifying your medieval savagery by pointing your fingers in all directions but at yourself. Fuck off, monster.
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Apple accused of using conflict minerals
Related: Clashes in east DR Congo day after aborted peace summit
2013 - "US blocks military aid to Rwanda over alleged backing of M23 child soldiers
[...]Marie Harf, a state department spokesperson, added that Rwanda was sanctioned because of its "support for the M23, a rebel group which continues to actively recruit and abduct children" and to threaten the stability of DRC.
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in Bangladesh and Myanmar

This is the ISIS Trump claims to have beaten -- The Islamic State Is a Franchise Now
Related:
Who really defeated the Islamic State – Obama or Trump?
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Reminds me, tonight 9pm Frontline.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/germanys-enemy-within/
Since the Holocaust, Germany has worked to overcome its Nazi history. But over the past decade, Germany has faced a rising wave of far-right violence and plots against Jews, Muslims, immigrants and politicians.
P - Amid accusations that the far-right Alternative für Deutschland party (AfD) has provoked violence, which it denies, filmmaker Evan Williams (Germany’s Neo-Nazis & the Far Right, Escaping Eritrea, Myanmar’s Killing Fields) investigates the rise of far-right extremism in modern-day Germany

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Protesters attack Bangladeshi state broadcaster after PM’s call for calm
"Bangladesh: Officials Linked to Hundreds of ‘Disappearances’
"Aung San Suu Kyi spent her life playing cat and mouse with Myanmar's generals. Did she lose the final round?"
[...]An August 2021 report by Human Rights Watch .. https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/08/16/where-no-sun-can-enter/decade-enforced-disappearances-bangladesh .. documented widespread enforced disappearances by Bangladesh security forces under Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina’s Awami League-led government from 2009 to 2020. Foreign Minister AK Abdul Momen rejected the findings, telling the media .. https://www.benarnews.org/english/news/bengali/disappearances-report-08162021175747.html .. that the allegations were “fabricated.” The Bangladesh government has long denied compelling evidence of government involvement in disappearances, which is particularly damaging .. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-bangladesh-politics-report-idUKKCN1UO0N0 .. and painful .. https://thediplomat.com/2018/05/bangladesh-disappeared-reappear-all-the-time/ .. to victims’ families."
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in USA, Mexico, Ukraine, Syria, Israel, China, N Korea, Uganda, Pakistan,
Nigeria, and there are serious climate consideration we also cover:

The Top Global Dangers for a Burn-It-Down Era
"Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh see kingship in Trump. Merchan, true patriot. Roberts and Barrett, firm."
Firm in that one instance, i meant.
A rogue America is among the biggest threats of 2025.
[...]Cascading Problems in the Middle East
[...]U.S.-Mexico Clashes
[...]A Bad Deal or Walkaway in Ukraine
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Yemen:

You wanted to know how I voted and I told you. I can only remember one Republican I ever voted
for and that was Mitt Romney when he ran for Gov of MA. I did not vote for him as POTUS.
BTW about 377,000 have been killed in Yemen so far. Should we stop supplying arms and even bombing the Houthis in Yemen?
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Who are the Houthis, and why are we at war with them?
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Oh! and of course Germany's AfD:

Authorities investigate Saudi doctor as suspect in Germany Christmas market attack
''Merkel Memoir Recalls What It Was Like Dealing With Trump and Putin"
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Oh, but on X, I'm SURE the YOUNG PEOPLE are all saying the AfD isn't even a TINY bit Nazi!!
And saying it is enough!! That makes it TRUE!!
No research necessary!! No facts!!
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Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
[...]Divided far-right AfD loses ground in east German stronghold
By Joseph Nasr June 8, 202112:41 AM GMT+10Updated 2 years ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/divided-far-right-afd-loses-ground-east-german-stronghold-2021-06-07/
Poland's far-right President Duda loses ground in elections
June 29, 2020 — 8.20am
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/poland-s-far-right-president-duda-loses-ground-in-elections-20200629-p55745.html
Austria's far right loses ground as Kurz wins landslide
09/30/2019 September 30, 2019
Conservative leader Sebastian Kurz and his People's Party have won Austria's parliamentary vote. The far-right Freedom Party, Kurz's former coalition partner, has taken a beating following a corruption scandal.
https://www.dw.com/en/austrias-far-right-loses-ground-as-sebastian-kurz-wins-landslide/a-50633489?maca=en-rss-en-top-1022-rdf
Dutch PM Rutte claims 'overwhelming' election win as far right loses ground
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210318-dutch-pm-rutte-leads-general-election-polls-as-far-right-loses-ground
P - still the far-right trajectory is up.
[...]January 15, 2021, 1:03 PM
From Brazil to the United States, Hungary to New Zealand, right-wing extremist ideas and groups are posing a grave threat to democratic societies. Within this context, the ongoing support U.S. President Donald Trump receives from parts of his base despite the drop in his approval numbers .. https://morningconsult.com/2021/01/08/trump-approval-rating-capitol-riot-poll/ .. and the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 reflects the continued evolution of a global threat. As New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Arden .. https://securityconference.org/assets/user_upload/MunichSecurityReport2020.pdf .. emphasized after a right-wing terrorist killed over 50 people at a pair of mosques in her country, “there is no question that ideas and language of division and hate have existed for decades, but their form of distribution, the tools of organization—they are new.” If there is any hope of repairing those divides and advancing equality, rule of law, an inclusive civil society, and respect for human rights, the United States needs to work with other countries and multilateral organizations to build a coalition to combat the growth and spread of right-wing extremism. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172252424

‘The gesture speaks for itself’: Germans respond to Musk’s apparent Nazi salute
[...]Olaf Scholz, the German chancellor, said he considered Musk’s support for the extreme right unacceptable as he was asked how he thought Europe should respond to the tech billionaire, particularly in the light of his AfD endorsement. The co-leader of the AfD, Tino Chrupalla, was among the members of Europe’s far-right political class to be in Washington for Trump’s inauguration.
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olgalautman.substack.com
Why has Musk gained access to our data?
[...] And while Musk gains access to every American’s sensitive financial and personal information, he is actively propping up Germany’s far-right AfD, a party with deep ties to neo-Nazis.
P - Musk has repeatedly used his platform to amplify and normalize extremist rhetoric, positioning himself as an enabler of authoritarian movements in Europe while simultaneously consolidating power over U.S. government institutions. His influence isn’t just limited to tech and finance—he is directly contributing to the rise of far-right nationalism, destabilizing democracies abroad while embedding himself in the highest levels of the U.S. government, gutting U.S. agencies, and purging civil servants.
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We hope the small sample of our shelves will serve to satisfy your voracious and most edifying appetite.
Time shortages you understand meant limiting this selection to only a few of the past year, or so.

There is so much more available to you on the board.

Sincerely

Tornado Alley Staff, and contributors.
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fuagf

02/17/25 6:09 PM

#513939 RE: brooklyn13 #513844

brooklyn13, Since i got the other out of the way, to your article. Why couldn't you have posted the Lee Hockstader article without your puerility ..

"Well, at least this is better than "Genocide Joe" and AIPAC running our government, amirite?
Although this topic, I'm sure, is less interesting than constantly arguing with MAGA social media trolls.
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You expect to see every net article critical of Vance's approach on Tornado Alley? And the implication we have not dealt heavily with the rightwing dangers Trump, Vance and Germany's AfD is inane. It's imbecilic.

Actually it was surprising to see Hockstader so easy on Vance. All the questions as to why Vance would be closer to the AfD than he was to old US European friends while he was in Europe. All those wonderings and hedgings of Hockstader were surprising. Is it really possible Hockstader doesn't yet know Vance as well as we here do. See only one of many:

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mrcrusher2011, Yes to all is at least what i hoped as the evidence for that is very strong. Your reason though, ouch. Perhaps the bureaucracy is a bit bloated but Vance's words:

"Vance: “I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people. . . And when the courts stop you, stand before the country, and say ‘the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.’” (James Pogue, “Inside the New Right, Where Peter Thiel Is Placing His Biggest Bets,” Vanity Fair, April 20, 2022)"

clearly go much farther than just trimming it some. "Fire every single...and replace with our people." Bureaucracies in healthy democracy are seen as independent. Vance rejects that notion entirely. Then he says, hey Trump should tell any judges who rule against him to fuck off. That is a rejection of the whole principle of an independent judiciary. And "let them enforce it." Defiant little prick isn't he. Goes fully autocratic.

And i don't think your analogy and context is valid. It looks a rationalization of what
you agree the technocrats and fucking Vance would like to achieve. No, this

"For analogy and context the Constitution clearly states that only Congress can declare war. They haven't done so since world war II. I think there's just a common understanding that the president is the Commander in Chief and he must ward off any threats as he sees fit. I'm sure the first time it happened there were many concerned citizens talking about constitutional crisis. The end of democracy. All the catchphrases we're seeing today. Here we are all these years later and we're still a country."

does not compute when in fact the Yarvin-Musk driven attempted administrative takeover
is unprecedented in US history. As are the steps they have achieved so far.

Then, to your

"So in spite of clearly laid out language in the Constitution everybody just understands that the president is in charge of the country. And we allow this attitude to exist when most of these wars are not defensive. They're not existential threats."

As i understand it the president is one of three tiers of government:

Three Branches of Government
Our federal government has three parts. They are the Executive, (President and about 5,000,000 workers) Legislative (Senate and House of Representatives) and Judicial (Supreme Court and lower Courts).
https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/education/three-branches/three-branches-of-government

There is a quote Thiel's, i think, where he says the president should be all powerful, the other two incidental. No, it was Yarvin. It's under Unchecked executive power :
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· Yarvin: “Until this “unitary executive” is so much “more powerful” than the present office that the President considers both the judicial and legislative branches purely ceremonial and advisory — with the same level of actual sovereignty as Charles III today — the “unitary executive” will not work.” “A Conversation About Monarchy”, Gray Mirror, March 12, 2024.
Toward the end .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175801418&txt2find=yarvin

Fourth question, do you agree with Yarvin there?

As for Bannon, another far-right agenda driver/thief in the mix, he sees the press
as the enemy, and says the way to handle them is to swamp it with bullshit.

Bannon, "All we have to do is flood the zone." Our enemy is the media who are dumb and
lazy. They can only focus on one thing at a time. "All we have to do is flood the zone."
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Fifth question, do you agree with Bannon on that. You have three yes's so far.

And you seem to trust Musk to be a sincere sort of guy, he isn't ..
one re your appearing to believe what he says regarding the Dept. of Education

US Has Dropped from 1st to 24th Worldwide in Education Since 1979?
Then-President Jimmy Carter founded the Department of Education in 1979.
Taija PerryCook
[...]
Lastly, the effect of the Department of Education itself on improved education averages and global ranking is unclear. The department began as a means to collect nationwide data and today is primarily responsible for distributing and monitoring federal financial aid, establishing financial aid policies and collecting data on U.S. schools.

In Sum …

There was no evidence to support the claim that since Carter founded the Department of Education in 1979, the U.S. has dropped from first to 24th worldwide in education.

All of that - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/mailbox.aspx
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Yet this last bit in yours:

By meeting with Weidel, and thereby lending the AfD a measure of legitimacy it could not previously have imagined, Vance broadcast the message that Trump’s United States will pay any soft-power price, and bear any reputational burden, to promote its most cherished goal: namely, ridding Western countries of immigration’s scourge.

With his Yale law degree, Vance is often extolled in Republican circles as an intellectual, a trait no one would attribute to Trump. But it is the rare intellectual who would be so blind to the lessons of history.

Your - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/02/16/vance-afd-neo-nazi-weidel-germany/

Seriously? It's as if Hockstader doesn't yet see or acknowledge exactly what Yarvin, Thiel, Musk, Vance,
Trump and the rest are up to. Or what they are. It's as if he has missed much about Vance to date.

Lastly, why not just post yours as an article you must know we would have much agreement with. Why your continued childish animosity against the board, just because we disagree with you on Israel. And that even just perhaps is not even all of us. Seriously.