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Re: brooklyn13 post# 513844

Monday, 02/17/2025 6:09:48 PM

Monday, February 17, 2025 6:09:48 PM

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brooklyn13, Since i got the other out of the way, to your article. Why couldn't you have posted the Lee Hockstader article without your puerility ..

"Well, at least this is better than "Genocide Joe" and AIPAC running our government, amirite?
Although this topic, I'm sure, is less interesting than constantly arguing with MAGA social media trolls.
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You expect to see every net article critical of Vance's approach on Tornado Alley? And the implication we have not dealt heavily with the rightwing dangers Trump, Vance and Germany's AfD is inane. It's imbecilic.

Actually it was surprising to see Hockstader so easy on Vance. All the questions as to why Vance would be closer to the AfD than he was to old US European friends while he was in Europe. All those wonderings and hedgings of Hockstader were surprising. Is it really possible Hockstader doesn't yet know Vance as well as we here do. See only one of many:

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mrcrusher2011, Yes to all is at least what i hoped as the evidence for that is very strong. Your reason though, ouch. Perhaps the bureaucracy is a bit bloated but Vance's words:

"Vance: “I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people. . . And when the courts stop you, stand before the country, and say ‘the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.’” (James Pogue, “Inside the New Right, Where Peter Thiel Is Placing His Biggest Bets,” Vanity Fair, April 20, 2022)"

clearly go much farther than just trimming it some. "Fire every single...and replace with our people." Bureaucracies in healthy democracy are seen as independent. Vance rejects that notion entirely. Then he says, hey Trump should tell any judges who rule against him to fuck off. That is a rejection of the whole principle of an independent judiciary. And "let them enforce it." Defiant little prick isn't he. Goes fully autocratic.

And i don't think your analogy and context is valid. It looks a rationalization of what
you agree the technocrats and fucking Vance would like to achieve. No, this

"For analogy and context the Constitution clearly states that only Congress can declare war. They haven't done so since world war II. I think there's just a common understanding that the president is the Commander in Chief and he must ward off any threats as he sees fit. I'm sure the first time it happened there were many concerned citizens talking about constitutional crisis. The end of democracy. All the catchphrases we're seeing today. Here we are all these years later and we're still a country."

does not compute when in fact the Yarvin-Musk driven attempted administrative takeover
is unprecedented in US history. As are the steps they have achieved so far.

Then, to your

"So in spite of clearly laid out language in the Constitution everybody just understands that the president is in charge of the country. And we allow this attitude to exist when most of these wars are not defensive. They're not existential threats."

As i understand it the president is one of three tiers of government:

Three Branches of Government
Our federal government has three parts. They are the Executive, (President and about 5,000,000 workers) Legislative (Senate and House of Representatives) and Judicial (Supreme Court and lower Courts).
https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/education/three-branches/three-branches-of-government

There is a quote Thiel's, i think, where he says the president should be all powerful, the other two incidental. No, it was Yarvin. It's under Unchecked executive power :
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· Yarvin: “Until this “unitary executive” is so much “more powerful” than the present office that the President considers both the judicial and legislative branches purely ceremonial and advisory — with the same level of actual sovereignty as Charles III today — the “unitary executive” will not work.” “A Conversation About Monarchy”, Gray Mirror, March 12, 2024.
Toward the end .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175801418&txt2find=yarvin

Fourth question, do you agree with Yarvin there?

As for Bannon, another far-right agenda driver/thief in the mix, he sees the press
as the enemy, and says the way to handle them is to swamp it with bullshit.

Bannon, "All we have to do is flood the zone." Our enemy is the media who are dumb and
lazy. They can only focus on one thing at a time. "All we have to do is flood the zone."
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175782137

Fifth question, do you agree with Bannon on that. You have three yes's so far.

And you seem to trust Musk to be a sincere sort of guy, he isn't ..
one re your appearing to believe what he says regarding the Dept. of Education

US Has Dropped from 1st to 24th Worldwide in Education Since 1979?
Then-President Jimmy Carter founded the Department of Education in 1979.
Taija PerryCook
[...]
Lastly, the effect of the Department of Education itself on improved education averages and global ranking is unclear. The department began as a means to collect nationwide data and today is primarily responsible for distributing and monitoring federal financial aid, establishing financial aid policies and collecting data on U.S. schools.

In Sum …

There was no evidence to support the claim that since Carter founded the Department of Education in 1979, the U.S. has dropped from first to 24th worldwide in education.

All of that - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/mailbox.aspx
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Yet this last bit in yours:

By meeting with Weidel, and thereby lending the AfD a measure of legitimacy it could not previously have imagined, Vance broadcast the message that Trump’s United States will pay any soft-power price, and bear any reputational burden, to promote its most cherished goal: namely, ridding Western countries of immigration’s scourge.

With his Yale law degree, Vance is often extolled in Republican circles as an intellectual, a trait no one would attribute to Trump. But it is the rare intellectual who would be so blind to the lessons of history.

Your - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/02/16/vance-afd-neo-nazi-weidel-germany/

Seriously? It's as if Hockstader doesn't yet see or acknowledge exactly what Yarvin, Thiel, Musk, Vance,
Trump and the rest are up to. Or what they are. It's as if he has missed much about Vance to date.

Lastly, why not just post yours as an article you must know we would have much agreement with. Why your continued childish animosity against the board, just because we disagree with you on Israel. And that even just perhaps is not even all of us. Seriously.

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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