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inclinedampforest

12/25/23 5:01 PM

#659061 RE: dstock07734 #659059

If FTD. = NtD
I highly recommend that you do what I did with my broker/ platform( Hargreaves Lansdown)
As the questions
1.: “ Do my shares physically exist”. @nswer yes.
2. Do I own my shares . @ nswer. Yes
3. Can m shares be lent out to short. @ nswer ..NO
I have been here since 2015 and earlier.
Super chilled…. Just waiting.
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inclinedampforest

12/25/23 5:01 PM

#659062 RE: dstock07734 #659059

If FTD. = NtD
I highly recommend that you do what I did with my broker/ platform( Hargreaves Lansdown)
As the questions
1.: “ Do my shares physically exist”. @nswer yes.
2. Do I own my shares . @ nswer. Yes
3. Can m shares be lent out to short. @ nswer ..NO
I have been here since 2015 and earlier.
Super chilled…. Just waiting.
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inclinedampforest

12/25/23 5:01 PM

#659063 RE: dstock07734 #659059

If FTD. = NtD
I highly recommend that you do what I did with my broker/ platform( Hargreaves Lansdown)
As the questions
1.: “ Do my shares physically exist”. @nswer yes.
2. Do I own my shares . @ nswer. Yes
3. Can m shares be lent out to short. @ nswer ..NO
I have been here since 2015 and earlier.
Super chilled…. Just waiting.
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inclinedampforest

12/25/23 5:01 PM

#659064 RE: dstock07734 #659059

If FTD. = NtD
I highly recommend that you do what I did with my broker/ platform( Hargreaves Lansdown)
As the questions
1.: “ Do my shares physically exist”. @nswer yes.
2. Do I own my shares . @ nswer. Yes
3. Can m shares be lent out to short. @ nswer ..NO
I have been here since 2015 and earlier.
Super chilled…. Just waiting.
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Chiugray

12/25/23 6:15 PM

#659084 RE: dstock07734 #659059

Dstock, "do you really own the shares if FTD...?"

Retail investors have a direct legal contract with their brokerage firm (ETrade, Fidelity, etc) for the $ value of shares they purchase. There is no purchase of exact certificates as I understand it.

I think the shorts would love this question to be continually talked about in hopes that it might be a continual reminder to dissuade some buying. But I have no concerns. Even in the case a market maker was unable to honor their financial liability to the brokerage, the brokerages would likely still pay the retail investor the full value of the stock, out of its own funds. That is their business, their reputation, and the brokerage would then go after the market maker on its own in court to square things away. Brokerages also have insurance to cover these type of things I am sure.

In the case of FTD on one stock, any stock, it would be held in a diversified way over many multiple brokerage houses. I highly doubt the financial value of one stock divided over many brokerage houses would overwhelm the liquidity capacity of any major brokerage firm. So I doubt the risk inherent in the question. There is also SIPC protection, etc. So again I am not concerned.

The only exception I can think of is if you enter a contractual lending agreement with your brokerage to lend your shares out for interest income. That would take the brokerage out and put instead the counterparty, likely a short, as who you rely on to pay you back. That is risky IMO, not owning shares through a major brokerage house.
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exwannabe

12/26/23 9:07 AM

#659140 RE: dstock07734 #659059

Absolutely,.

Do to the multiparty conspiracy one cannot assume NWBO shares purchased through retail brokers are valid. Best to get physical paper certs.

The cost and overhead of this is not bad.

. Transfer your certs to a ComputerShare (CS) Direct Registration System (DRS) account, CS is the registraw for NWBO so the official list of who owns what.
. Pay CS to print the paper certs for you,.

When t is time to sell, you can check to see if any retail broker actually accepts these. If so the process involves getting your notarized signature on the paper and sending by registered mail to the broker.

Some have reported this is difficult for OTC stocks so you might want to convert back to a CS DRS account. CS does not buy/sell, so from there you have to find a broker who will accept a transfer from CS. If so, complete that transfer and be done.,

All this is critical as NWBO shares in a broker must be assumed to basically counterfeit.

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OK, the above is per dstock's post. IMO, the basis is complete nonsense. Shares of NWBO in any major retail broker account are solid. If not in a margin accoutn using amrgin they are not even being lent out.

One has to wonder why "longs" are presenting this crap thesis that NWBO shares at retail brokers are flawed.