Replies to post #408262 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[fuagf]

Am wondering how General Wesley Clarke feels about a no fly zone, NATO taking
on Putin, that stuff. I don't know if i'll find it but maybe something in his tweets

Wes Clark
@GeneralClark
US is stepping up its weapons support to Ukraine - now
encouraging what they need for maneuver warfare
- to take out those Russian forces in the north and
northeast and carry the fight east and south! Sound
decision by @POTUS
and his team!
2:36 PM · Apr 2, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

US is stepping up its weapons support to Ukraine - now encouraging what they need for maneuver warfare - to take out those Russian forces in the north and northeast and carry the fight east and south! Sound decision by @POTUS and his team!

— Wes Clark (@GeneralClark) April 2, 2022

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Wes Clark
@GeneralClark
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Mar 29
Join me at 11am ct on @JohnKingCNN
to discuss the latest on #Ukraine?.

Join me at 11am ct on @JohnKingCNN to discuss the latest on #Ukraine️.

— Wes Clark (@GeneralClark) March 29, 2022

No luck for me in there. This one mentions the General Philip Breedlove, of your earlier
.. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=168421591 .. one.

US Air Force would face tough choices in Russian air assault on Ukraine

[... this mentions defensive weapons only ...]

Clark and Jones both urged the U.S. and NATO countries to send more air defense equipment to Ukraine without delay.

“Nations have a legitimate right to self-defense, and the United States and our allies have every right to provide such means now,” Clark wrote. “We should expedite the delivery of defensive means and insist that our NATO allies do likewise. No other act now can show more resolve to Putin.”

[...]

If an invasion does unfold, Breedlove doubts U.S. planes will offer much direct support, like airborne transport for the Ukrainian military. Intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance support is more likely to last throughout a conflict, he said.

[...]

Clark recommended dispatching NATO air assets to Romania, Bulgaria and Poland as a precaution. Though some Eurofighters and foreign F-15 and F-16 fighter jet models are nearby to police NATO airspace — ideally to deter Russian military planes — he believes further air power would “reassure these allies and contain any spillover of Russian military action” into NATO territory.

“The time for this is now, before any action begins, rather than rushing forward in the face of Russian action, when the risks of accidental hostile encounters would be much higher,” he said.

Breedlove also suggested activating NATO’s Very High Readiness Joint Task Force, its most responsive military force that can mobilize within days in case conditions go south.

Experts differ on whether Russia would gamble with taking on U.S. or NATO aircraft in various scenarios.

Senior military fellows at the Atlantic Council argued Feb. 16 that Russia’s air-dominance training has signaled its willingness to engage outside aircraft if they try to intervene in Ukraine.

US Air Force ramps up intel flights, weapons shipments to Ukraine

Russian Tu-22 nuclear-capable bombers have recently patrolled the skies over Belarus, they noted. Training exercises can also shed light on possible moves in the future, including ground-attack practice with Su-25 planes on Feb. 10 and scrambling Su-35S fighters to capture and destroy an unresponsive air target seen as a stand-in for American or NATO jets.

“Advanced fighter aircraft and surface-to-air missiles Russia has deployed to Belarus provide the anti-access … “bubble” that covers much of the Ukrainian airspace — a further warning against any NATO nation entering Ukrainian airspace in the event of further hostilities,” the Atlantic Council fellows wrote.

Breedlove questions whether Russian President Vladimir Putin would give the U.S. a reason to return fire, inside Ukrainian borders or in broader Europe. The decision to shoot back would be left up to Biden, the commander in chief, and NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, he said.

“[Putin] knows where he can go and stay below the line of NATO’s response. I think that tripping the NATO wire is not something he wants to do,” Breedlove said, declining to speculate further.

[...]

For now, experts want to see more firepower — like F-35s, F-22 Raptor jets and naval cruisers or destroyers — spread across Europe.

“[Putin is] most afraid of NATO forces, capabilities and weapons in the forward area, so that’s what I’d give him,” Breedlove said. “I would send him a message: ‘Your bad behavior is going to cost you what you most did not want.’”

https://news.yahoo.com/us-air-force-face-tough-150343082.html

[brooklyn13]

I used to be a fan of General Clark's but I now think it's possible he sounds like he's had some sort of cognitive decline.

Most contemporary military analysts don't feel that Russia is in any position to be able to fight a protracted guerrilla war in the streets of Kyiv. They're pulling out now and will claim the formal annexation of the eastern provinces as their victory.

This guy knows more about this than anyone else:

https://twitter.com/AndreiSoldatov?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

And this guy:

Important and relative info is coming out on DW's Conflict Zone series:

(with the same guy as above in this episode)

I'm tending to take the word of connected, in-exile Russians over that of retired American generals looking for a little air time.