Friday, April 01, 2022 10:21:53 PM
Watched that movie at your recommendation,,, it was good, had some twists I did not expect...
Speaking of movies, did you see The Beach with Leonardo DiCaprio... I didn't see much of it but one part stuck...The guy who survived the shark attack.... He was in a lot of pain and dying....The group figures a solution, they put him out of earshot, until...
btw,,,The post you refer to is fake news...
Gotta give the Ukrainians credit,,,I still don't think Putin is done,,shelling has increased and he will most likely rule his army
With that Iron fist...
The ground will firm up too...
Too bad the post wasn't real, I think their pleas should not go unheard.....But they will imo
Open this link and scroll to Kira Rudik too,,,She is a Ukrainian Parliament member
March 29
https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/se/date/2022-03-29/segment/01
Generals, thanks to both of you, for joining us.
General Clark, what are we seeing, right now? Are Russian troops actually pulling back altogether? Are they shifting their focus, to the east? Or something else?
GEN. WESLEY CLARK (RET.), CNN MILITARY ANALYST, FORMER NATO SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER, EUROPE: They're trying to reconstitute some of the units that were beaten up, in unsuccessful attempts, to seize Kyiv. And that's for sure.
But they're going to keep their artillery, and rocket forces, trained on Kyiv. They're going to continue to pound the city. There is likely that the forces around Kharkiv, and Izium, are going to try to go south, to try to cut off the Ukrainian forces that are holding the Donbas pocket there. This is classic Eastern European military tactics. They're going to try to do an envelopment of the Ukrainian forces that are east of the Dnieper River, cut them off and annihilate them. And then, they'll swing back, and then try to encircle Kyiv.
So, look, Vladimir Putin is very clear. He wants to eradicate Ukraine. We shouldn't - we shouldn't take any solace in the limited counterattacks, given by the Ukrainians that have been successful, or the fact that what Russia says about redeploying. This is a long fight that's going to continue.
BLITZER: Yes. That's a good point, David (ph).
General Breedlove, we've heard this type of talk, from the Russians, before, specifically, right before launching the invasion. So, what do you need to see, before buying - buying this move, towards what they're supposedly talking about, de-escalation?
GEN. PHILIP BREEDLOVE (RET.), U.S. AIR FORCE (RET.), FORMER NATO SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER, EUROPE, DISTINGUISHED CHAIR, MIDDLE EAST INSTITUTE: Well, the Russians, as you know, are famous for Maskirovka, masking what they're really doing. And that's why, I think, a healthy dose of skepticism is important here, just as General Clark has said.
I believe they are going to leave that artillery behind, to try to fix the defenses of Kyiv, in place, so that they can't respond. And just as was described, move then to the east, to try to cut off those forces, in the Donbas.
And they would marry up with forces coming north, out of the area, along the coast, in Mariupol, as Mariupol has now fallen. And so, those forces would also enter into the fight. And what we want to see, is whether they do actually begin moving those large units, to the east, and then to the south.
BLITZER: Well, General Breedlove, let me follow up. How much is the word of the Russians worth, right now, given that they still won't say it was their forces that actually invaded Crimea, for example?
BREEDLOVE: Their word is not worth anything, really.
Did you see today, the gentleman from Russia that walked through, in Mariupol? And he was pointing at this large theater, where all of the children and people were killed. And he was describing to Russian news that it looked like this was done from the inside, and this was done to blame on the Russians.
So, this is their lie machine, their information - misinformation campaign, on high speed.
BLITZER: General Clark, the Ukrainians have been fighting, this war, with mostly defensive weapons, like the Javelin, for example, the Stinger missiles. What do they need - what do they need, right now, to go from defense, to offense?
CLARK: Well, they need a different set of weapons. They have some of them, in limited quantities.
They need armored fighting vehicles, tanks, mobile artillery, long- range rockets, and they need air cover. And they don't have that. Not in sufficient numbers. And most of those systems are of Soviet origin. So, we don't have them, to give.
[21:10:00]
This has to come, from our European allies, and our friends, around the world, who countries, like Kuwait and others, who bought Russian equipment. They've got to belly up, and give it up.
Because this war, in Ukraine, is about everybody. This is about an assault, on the international system, of international law, and a rules-based order. If Putin gets away with this, he'll go after the next one. So, everyone should be involved, and they should be generous, in giving these weapons up, to the Ukrainians, who are using them quite well.
But without support, from our East European allies, and those others, in artillery ammunition, rockets, the armored fighting vehicles, the MiGs, the other aircraft, the Sukhois, they need, look, Russia will consolidate and close in, around Ukraine, and we're going to have an ethnic cleansing humanitarian tragedy, like the world has never seen, if we don't stop it.
BLITZER: Wow!
Speaking of movies, did you see The Beach with Leonardo DiCaprio... I didn't see much of it but one part stuck...The guy who survived the shark attack.... He was in a lot of pain and dying....The group figures a solution, they put him out of earshot, until...
btw,,,The post you refer to is fake news...
Gotta give the Ukrainians credit,,,I still don't think Putin is done,,shelling has increased and he will most likely rule his army
With that Iron fist...
The ground will firm up too...
Too bad the post wasn't real, I think their pleas should not go unheard.....But they will imo
Open this link and scroll to Kira Rudik too,,,She is a Ukrainian Parliament member
March 29
https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/se/date/2022-03-29/segment/01
Generals, thanks to both of you, for joining us.
General Clark, what are we seeing, right now? Are Russian troops actually pulling back altogether? Are they shifting their focus, to the east? Or something else?
GEN. WESLEY CLARK (RET.), CNN MILITARY ANALYST, FORMER NATO SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER, EUROPE: They're trying to reconstitute some of the units that were beaten up, in unsuccessful attempts, to seize Kyiv. And that's for sure.
But they're going to keep their artillery, and rocket forces, trained on Kyiv. They're going to continue to pound the city. There is likely that the forces around Kharkiv, and Izium, are going to try to go south, to try to cut off the Ukrainian forces that are holding the Donbas pocket there. This is classic Eastern European military tactics. They're going to try to do an envelopment of the Ukrainian forces that are east of the Dnieper River, cut them off and annihilate them. And then, they'll swing back, and then try to encircle Kyiv.
So, look, Vladimir Putin is very clear. He wants to eradicate Ukraine. We shouldn't - we shouldn't take any solace in the limited counterattacks, given by the Ukrainians that have been successful, or the fact that what Russia says about redeploying. This is a long fight that's going to continue.
BLITZER: Yes. That's a good point, David (ph).
General Breedlove, we've heard this type of talk, from the Russians, before, specifically, right before launching the invasion. So, what do you need to see, before buying - buying this move, towards what they're supposedly talking about, de-escalation?
GEN. PHILIP BREEDLOVE (RET.), U.S. AIR FORCE (RET.), FORMER NATO SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER, EUROPE, DISTINGUISHED CHAIR, MIDDLE EAST INSTITUTE: Well, the Russians, as you know, are famous for Maskirovka, masking what they're really doing. And that's why, I think, a healthy dose of skepticism is important here, just as General Clark has said.
I believe they are going to leave that artillery behind, to try to fix the defenses of Kyiv, in place, so that they can't respond. And just as was described, move then to the east, to try to cut off those forces, in the Donbas.
And they would marry up with forces coming north, out of the area, along the coast, in Mariupol, as Mariupol has now fallen. And so, those forces would also enter into the fight. And what we want to see, is whether they do actually begin moving those large units, to the east, and then to the south.
BLITZER: Well, General Breedlove, let me follow up. How much is the word of the Russians worth, right now, given that they still won't say it was their forces that actually invaded Crimea, for example?
BREEDLOVE: Their word is not worth anything, really.
Did you see today, the gentleman from Russia that walked through, in Mariupol? And he was pointing at this large theater, where all of the children and people were killed. And he was describing to Russian news that it looked like this was done from the inside, and this was done to blame on the Russians.
So, this is their lie machine, their information - misinformation campaign, on high speed.
BLITZER: General Clark, the Ukrainians have been fighting, this war, with mostly defensive weapons, like the Javelin, for example, the Stinger missiles. What do they need - what do they need, right now, to go from defense, to offense?
CLARK: Well, they need a different set of weapons. They have some of them, in limited quantities.
They need armored fighting vehicles, tanks, mobile artillery, long- range rockets, and they need air cover. And they don't have that. Not in sufficient numbers. And most of those systems are of Soviet origin. So, we don't have them, to give.
[21:10:00]
This has to come, from our European allies, and our friends, around the world, who countries, like Kuwait and others, who bought Russian equipment. They've got to belly up, and give it up.
Because this war, in Ukraine, is about everybody. This is about an assault, on the international system, of international law, and a rules-based order. If Putin gets away with this, he'll go after the next one. So, everyone should be involved, and they should be generous, in giving these weapons up, to the Ukrainians, who are using them quite well.
But without support, from our East European allies, and those others, in artillery ammunition, rockets, the armored fighting vehicles, the MiGs, the other aircraft, the Sukhois, they need, look, Russia will consolidate and close in, around Ukraine, and we're going to have an ethnic cleansing humanitarian tragedy, like the world has never seen, if we don't stop it.
BLITZER: Wow!
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