I believe there's still hope. CBBT may well be a fraud, at this point no one can be sure except for Meadowlark himself. I don't believe it is for reasons I've stated before, but obviously the glacial progress of acquisition, utter lack of communication, disregard for bringing financials up-to-date (thereby allowing CBBT to get slapped with CE), etc. could easily be indicators of fraud. But I'm curious as to why you would think CBBT was a fraud 'from the start'. Where's your starting point?