What steve is referencing is that back in the day Larry Dalton screwed the original developers of Lightwaves materials by directing all of the money at the federal level to a company called Lumera which U of W partnered with, they ended up selling ownership and made millions. As info this is were pumpkin came from I don't think he lost all his money but most likely received a return of pennies on the dollar. Pretty ironic that Lightwave ended up buying all of their patents for a couple hundred k bucks. Shame on Dalton, in my opinion he wasn't looking out for the science which was why he sat on that committee but self delt thing.
Not proofing, listening to the presentation.
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