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Sub Atomic master

12/20/20 10:20 AM

#340948 RE: thermo #340946

Do you believe they should have a group hired or a person helping them on this? Or do they. I would think so. But it is who it is! I know the drs and such arent just sitting there helping them. Thats not what they do. So who is helping them. Thx thermoo
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Dr Bala

12/20/20 10:59 AM

#340958 RE: thermo #340946

They are being careful at the expense of being timely. Ultimately better for investors.

Agreed. Thanks, thermoo.
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Pablosrv

12/20/20 11:12 AM

#340963 RE: thermo #340946

Ok, but somewhere along the way they changed their plans. They have the past experience of the blinded publication, right? So, when in August, they said September, they were not thinking of any scientific publication, because based on common sense and on their own past experience, they knew it would be impossible to have it ready by September. So, why did they even say September? Did they review results and realize they were not even close to what they were expecting and decided to go for a scientific publication? Because on the other hand we all already knew that results could be somewhat controversial, at least in some of the endpoints. They just said September because they were overly confident? There is something that does not fit a rational thinking...and all we have is a series of PRs by the company that have come and gone like dust in the wind. Let´s not forget that in February 2017 they explicitly told us that "The external parties managing the Trial are now moving forward with the process to reach data lock." I wonder might they just be doing it all over again?
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Poor Man -

12/20/20 11:14 AM

#340964 RE: thermo #340946

That’s a bingo.

Putting aside other issues with management, their lack of experience operating both a biotech and a public company has been a serious problem. They need to sell this enterprise as soon as a meaningful offer is proposed by a willing buyer.

Interesting that this view is coming from a warrant holder with a more direct knowledge of management. Albeit this has been obvious for a while.


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biosectinvestor

12/20/20 11:29 AM

#340970 RE: thermo #340946

I disagree.

1) there happens to be a pandemic, destroying the global economy and munching all healthcare resources, if you haven’t noticed;
2) this criticism is made of virtually every under resourced and small biotechs. Very few escape this and part of the reason is, if they were realistically pessimistic, they’d all die, very fast, ignominious deaths. It’s the nature of the beast to a large degree in this highly regulated field;
3) this is an entirely new product category having been through a multi country trial, with a very challenging trial. This was not fish oil. Coordination in the context of point 1 above also tends to be seriously slowed in that context;
4) they have to be very careful because, unlike an existing company with resources and other revenue sources, not only can acting quickly create problems, they tend to have many unknown frenemies, and when I say frenemies, I mean people who want what they have, will do absolutely anything to undermine them and destroy them, so that their own interested friends and allies can get rich on the freed asset. Most people call these interests shorts, but they are more like the people who wish you would fail miserably, so they can take your place.

In fact, I’d argue that a) big companies do not generally advance technologies that cannibalizes their industry, other than Apple, but especially not in pharma; b) big companies have resources to address most of those issues; c) when big companies do have similar delays, and they do, most of the time, there are no bulletin board critics sitting around all day with nothing else to talk about, about that large company, because they usually have a lot going on; d) it takes vision to launch a new product like this despite the attacks, keep it on track and invest your own resources when the naysayers refuse to acknowledge the accomplishments purely to advance their own interests, whether as mouthpieces for rivals, for purposes of trades, or just because they think they sound “smarter” by always being the most judgmental and insisting that no one is doing anything “right”.

Getting this done and published will by itself be a huge accomplishment, even if it were not a clear cut win. If it is a huge win, it will be despite incredible headwinds that persisted every moment for many years, to this day.

I’d actually say I’m quite impressed. Once they have resources they can decide what they want to do. But selling it just to get it off their hands is not the proper motivation for maximizing value, and management expertise is a commodity that can be easily hired upon success.
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learningcurve2020

12/20/20 3:27 PM

#341057 RE: thermo #340946

“Inexperience”. Oh come on! Powers has been at this for twenty years and with Toucan. She knows exactly what she’s doing. lol

I think it’s much more likely the virus is being used as an excuse.
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learningcurve2020

12/20/20 4:46 PM

#341083 RE: thermo #340946

You actually speak with LP or just LG?

“I've had so many conversations with management over the years that I think I'd sense if there was something else going on.”
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kfa670

12/20/20 7:10 PM

#341122 RE: thermo #340946

How do you reconcile this with the company saying they expected TLD in September?

NW management inexperience. They're ability to anticipate timelines has been terrible since they have no experience at commercializing a life science product.

Best answer to this question I have seen yet. And the only answer besides they lied. Imo