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Justfactsmam

06/24/20 1:21 PM

#305429 RE: KMBJN #305423

KMVJN...you stated:

" It definitely helps to have a good working relationship and prior funding. Just like in academia, if you have gotten grants from NIH in the past, you look like a stronger candidate for a current grant application.


It's good that IPIX is working with a RBL, since people in government agencies generally know other people in government and how to get funds. Perhaps somewhat of an inside scoop."



You are absolutely correct. Some asked why Leo and RBL put in for Grant as Co-applicants....much greater "ease" of review and credibility when the RBL has received prior Grants...and even working right now on CURRENT GRANTS...

This RBL IPIX is testing through ... may have "just a little" experience with Grants and organizations giving them:

http://njms.rutgers.edu/research/rbl/about.cfm

"Project Leader of 10 active NIH grants and has been continuously supported by multiple simultaneous NIH, DOD and Gates Foundation grants for the past two decades."
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petemantx

06/24/20 1:36 PM

#305443 RE: KMBJN #305423

RBK asks in the grant for a PAN-CORONA investigation of Brilacidin and you come up with $2-10MM for award.

Your bias against IPIX is bizarre.

Of course, if you worked for Polymedix in years past I can see why you would be so pissed to see some other company reap the rewards from the work Polymedix brought to life.
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taas

06/24/20 1:38 PM

#305445 RE: KMBJN #305423

KMBJN, agree with your numbers. Think many here have outsized expectations with regards to grants and setting themselves up for disappointment.
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cybermich

06/24/20 4:07 PM

#305515 RE: KMBJN #305423

Good insights KMBJN..

thank you.
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MinnieM

06/24/20 5:49 PM

#305549 RE: KMBJN #305423

Good post that I'm in overall agreement with since I expect multiple grants for both lab work and clinical work. Also agree we could see publications coming up too. It's great having 2 US RBL's doing the testing for us. We won't be seeing anyone questioning the results.

The other things I'd add to your post follow in no particular order.

News of Brilacidin OM deal with a large pharma.

News of Alfasigma testing on UP since Italy is getting back to normal.

News of additional grants applied for once we get more data.

News of a free clinical trial at a hospital hit hard with covid where we only supply drug.

News of a surprise nature that none of us even think to anticipate.

I bought more this morning.

Good luck all.... Karin ;)








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Inovio has had a relationship with DoD for years. It got a grant for MERS vaccine from DoD in 2016. DARPA gave them Ebola money in 2015. It definitely helps to have a good working relationship and prior funding. Just like in academia, if you have gotten grants from NIH in the past, you look like a stronger candidate for a current grant application.

It's good that IPIX is working with a RBL, since people in government agencies generally know other people in government and how to get funds. Perhaps somewhat of an inside scoop.

We still don't know if the grant application is for further preclinical work or trials too (I imagine and hope it is for trials, but RBL won't be running any clinical trials I don't think), and who is the funding agency. Perhaps there is more than one grant application, and Leo is talking with multiple potential funding sources. Preclinical grant will be for maybe <$2M, and I would think Phase II trial would be on the order of $10M for a moderate sized trial (200-400 subjects including placebo 2:1).

We also don't know status of possible upcoming trials with FDA, including what might be required to submit an IND for brilacidin in Covid-19 (in terms of any further preclinical work), and preliminary outlines of a trial - size, cost, etc...

Not anticipating news too quickly, but hoping with this last set of results things are moving faster than before. I have a feeling the first thing we will see is a pre-print publication of preclinical work. We don't know if the preclinical work is finished yet, or what is the status of the manuscripts. Hopefully those manuscripts will come out soon so we can learn some more about brilacidin's antiviral properties against CoVs. That should stoke more interest in the science, the stock, and getting funding we need to get into trials.