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BullNBear52

06/07/18 7:50 PM

#280884 RE: hookrider #280880

Not too many people were a fan of going back to war after WWI and Hoover's train wreck of tariffs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%E2%80%93Hawley_Tariff_Act

Henry Ford wanted no part in the war. Doesn't paint him as a hero but he finally got on board.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/the-dark-legacy-of-henry-fords-anti-semitism-commentary/2014/10/10/c95b7df2-509d-11e4-877c-335b53ffe736_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9a411f1b8391

Conix is just revisionist history to suit her twisted agenda about socialists and Russia. Obviously no link was provided to back up the BS.

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She probably has a framed picture of Joe McCarthy somewhere.

In any event Roosevelt knew we were eventually going to have to get engaged and put the US economy on a war footing prior to Pearl Harbor.

If you look at the tax rates prior to the war you should be able to figure it out.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/historical-highest-marginal-income-tax-rates

Congress wasn't on board but starting in 1936 Roosevelt started increasing the tax rate. Coinciding with Hitler's ascension into power.

The only thing Roosevelt needed was a trigger to get Congress on board. I'll leave it to the conspiracy nut cases to say Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor but didn't do a thing.

My dad who was born in 1911 from Springfield Ma obviously knew his history as well. He figured we were going to war again and enlisted prior to Pearl Harbor.


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fuagf

06/08/18 12:58 AM

#280890 RE: hookrider #280880

A story of Republican Party support for German industry before WW11. A story not necessarily suggesting support
for fascism, but one of putting all else aside in the pursuit of money, money, money. Even after the war had started.

"BullNBear52: Wasn't it the Bush's that where fighting to keep us out of the war."

A CASE OF HISTORY ABUSE: BUSH, RUMSFELD AND FASCISM

by Randolph T. Holhut
http://www.opednews.com
September 5, 2006 at 09:34:27

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In the 1930s, when Hitler and Benito Mussolini rose to power, it was the Republican Party who pushed for appeasement. While Franklin Roosevelt and his fellow internationalists in the Democratic Party sounded the first alarms about fascism, conservative Republican leaders like Robert Taft and Arthur Vandenburg maintained their isolationism right up until the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941.

After the Munich Pact in September 1938, where France and Britain handed over Czechoslovakia to Nazi Germany, it was Roosevelt who pushed for an arms embargo against Germany and Japan over the objections of the isolationists. It was Roosevelt who pushed for increased aid to Britain after World War II began and who had to fight the isolationists who opposed it.

The people - mostly liberals - who did speak up against fascism before Pearl Harbor, and in the case of those who went to Spain to fight fascism in the Spanish Civil War of 1936-39, were smeared as communists by conservatives.

In 1940 and 1941, when it was growing clear that the United States was eventually going to fight the Axis, 80 percent of Americans still opposed any declaration of war. Many supported the America First Committee, a isolationist group that opposed American involvement in the war.

Even the American Legion itself, formed after World War I, never spoke up against fascism until the United States entered World War II. It even offered Mussolini an honorary membership. The Legion sided with the major corporations and industrialists which aided the fascist cause up to and, in some cases, well after Pearl Harbor.

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Is linked in

chunga1 -- thank you -- and of course, not just dubya's grampa 'trading with the enemy' Prescott and the Bush family more generally, but also other of the wealthiest and most powerful American families, working together under the rubric of the (nicely named) American Liberty League --...
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A story of

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal
how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president


Ben Aris in Berlin and Duncan Campbell in Washington
Sat 25 Sep 2004 18.59 EDT
First published on Sat 25 Sep 2004 18.59 EDT

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

[...]

While there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause, the documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade. The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen's US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

The plot.

The Fascist Plot to Overthrow FDR (FULL)

Uploaded on Sep 13, 2011

In 1933, Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler was approached by wealthy industrialists and bankers who were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization called the "American Liberty League" and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt, with Butler as leader of that organization. In 1934 Butler testified to the McCormack--Dickstein Congressional committee on these claims. In the opinion of the committee, these allegations were credible. One of the purported plotters, Gerald MacGuire, vehemently denied any such plot. In their report, the Congressional committee stated that it was able to confirm Butler's statements other than the proposal from MacGuire which it considered more or less confirmed by MacGuire's European reports. No one was prosecuted.

Marine Corps Maj.-Gen. Smedley Butler was approached by a wealthy and secretive group of industrialists and bankers, including Prescott Bush the current President's grandfather, who asked him to command a 500,000 strong rogue army of veterans that would help stage a coup to topple then President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
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See also:

George Bush, This is Your Life
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And to link in BNB's reply to yours, which the above is meant to supplement

Not too many people were a fan of going back to war after WWI and Hoover's train wreck of tariffs.
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conix

06/08/18 4:13 PM

#280903 RE: hookrider #280880



Let's get things straight here--- you voted for Hillary. Got it. You did not care about her irresponsible and criminal mishandling of classified information and her obvious attempt to avoid Government scrutiny of her e-mails.

Many voters --including Democratic Party voters--were bothered by this and her assumption that she DESERVED to be President.

Trump was the only alternative. Those are the facts. And there is not a day that goes by that I find myself arguing with fellow conservatives abut his behavior, his Cabinet choices, etc.