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Rkmatters

11/22/16 9:30 PM

#84884 RE: exwannabe #84883

Clearly we disagree. You are adding context to her words that is not there. No where did she diminish the results of PFS. Only you did. She didn't even mention PFS. I have pointed out before that when clinical researchers discuss "early verse late" they are discussing the difference seen at initiations point. Here is an example with the Avastin.

"Question: What do you think best explains the fact that overall survival data from the bevacizumab arm of this study were not good, even though progression free survival was improved in this arm?

So the RTOG 0825 clinical trial comparing bevacizumab and placebo in combination with standard of care included a crossover at the time of tumor progression. So at that point the treatment arm was unblinded and the patients had the option if they were on placebo crossing over to bevacizumab. If they were on bevacizumab continuing with a bevacizumab containing regiment. That fact alone could obscure an overall survival benefit if you were asking the question: "bevacizumab, in the treatment of brain tumors, versus no bevacizumab?" So in essence, you would be asking the question "early versus late bevacizumab is there a difference?" Our data suggest there is no difference. "

And by the way, I presented her comment as well. Stating that we disagree on whether you added context to her words and then me pointing out the context that I see isn't a straw man argument. Funny how you go there. It was not necessary.
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Rkmatters

11/22/16 9:55 PM

#84889 RE: exwannabe #84883

"And please stop the strawman points. I never claimed that she said anything about PFS results or that OS was the only thing being looked at" -- exwannabe.

By the way, you actually stated that the she mentioned the trial is not about PFS! Don't back petal and pretend you didn't write that. It is what you implied she stated. No where in the quote you posted did it state what you initially said she did:

"Linda Liau states the trial is now about OS, not PFS" -- exwannabe
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pgsd

11/23/16 4:20 AM

#84908 RE: exwannabe #84883

Similarly an "odd character trait for a brain surgeon" would be of her being so proud of DCVax that it is her "greatest achievement to date" and yet you would have us believe she knows it is a 'failed' treatment lol