Replies to post #105825 on Zerify Inc (ZRFY)

[KEEPIN-EYE]

75% where? Did you come up with that?

The Co. had no cash, NOBODY knows the settlement...RIGHT!

So making a deal with Microsoft, and what the future brings?

You DO NOT KNOW

[tibt913]

No they just like to give out millions of free money just for fun ....

[John Kent]

Wrong Apple is still fighting VHC and has not settled.

[okwife]

SFOR patents are strong and msft does not back down from any lawsuit. msft has inside attys that are on the constant payroll just for lawsuits. MSFT KNEW THEY WERE INFRINGING THE strong PATENTS and settled.

[SmallBuy]

this is false because the case was settled "WITH PREJUDICE"

meaning the judge had a ruling.

we just cannot be sure what it was.

[mofran]

Precedent set. MS wouldn't have settled to just make a patent troll go away. Nice try tho

[Jtech]

Plus, this statement is incorrect, a Markman hearing was held so the case did make it to court.

This sticky should be removed because it is not accurate.

1:13-cv-00490-RGA-MPT StrikeForce Technologies Inc. v. PhoneFactor Inc


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Filed & Entered: 11/21/2014
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Filed & Entered: 11/21/2014
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[fourthjohn]

if it were a much smaller nuisance value settlement you might be right. also, because this was decided and settled during mediation again your opinion is wrong. the mediator sided with sfor any judge would have concluded the same, hence the settlement.

[KSEAVER]

Hello, do we have a pending lawsuit? SFOR vs Who???

[LionsTact]

The issue is that NO ONE has found Microsoft in violation.

...uugggh and all this time StrikeForce is Blowing Smoke in Shareholders face imo, Thanks for the dd

The case never made it to court. No one ruled on the efficacy of the patent claim. Microsoft settled out of court.

Large firms often settle with a patent troll (or patent assertion entity if you prefer the more polite term) if the cost of settlement is less than the expense of going to trial and the concomitant business costs of having the issue drawn out over a lengthy period.

For the troll, the direct costs are kept down by hiring law firms on contingent fees… they get paid only when they win or get a settlement. This can lower the up-front legal fees by 75%. To further mitigate this cost, PAEs often name multiple defendants, spreading the net while keeping the direct legal fees down. That can also lower the risk of losing a judgement. This is EXACTLY what this troll is doing.

The issue is not who found Microsoft in violation.The issue is that NO ONE has found Microsoft in violation.

You said: "I'm afraid you are wrong, It has been tested in Court with PhoneFactor." How can anything be "tested" when the case was never adjudicated in court? There was no verdict of any kind. There was simply an out-of-court settlement. Kay was desperate for funds. Microsoft knew this. Microsoft settled with a patent troll for a cost that was probably insignificant to Microsoft.

You continually throw around the $9.7 million settlement/license fee? Is there any second party (Microsoft) corroboration of this figure. Is there any independent third party corroboration of this figure? Or is this figure only an unsubstantiated utterance from Strikeforce?

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[multivalue]

I think this is a good post. While we don't like having our investment company called names, if the shoe fits... and this is just this posters opinion. Has some merit imho.
Still doesn't change a thing for me tho. $sfor long and strong here.

[blinkeedotcom]

UPDATE: Still not "tested"

So far we are 2-0 in court cases, having sued and settled with 2 major infringers and we are still completely untested.

Come to think of it, Chocolate Ice Cream has still yet to be proven to be delicious.

[Koog]

I stated over a year ago:

The case never made it to court. No one ruled on the efficacy of the patent claim.

Well, now it has. The claims have been ruled invalid and StrikeForce has been exposed as the patent assertion entity (patent troll) it has always been.