Koog Friday, 10/21/16 05:58:18 PM Re: Gold49er post# 105814 0 Post # of 199763 The case never made it to court. No one ruled on the efficacy of the patent claim. Microsoft settled out of court. Large firms often settle with a patent troll (or patent assertion entity if you prefer the more polite term) if the cost of settlement is less than the expense of going to trial and the concomitant business costs of having the issue drawn out over a lengthy period. For the troll, the direct costs are kept down by hiring law firms on contingent fees… they get paid only when they win or get a settlement. This can lower the up-front legal fees by 75%. To further mitigate this cost, PAEs often name multiple defendants, spreading the net while keeping the direct legal fees down. That can also lower the risk of losing a judgement. This is EXACTLY what this troll is doing. The issue is not who found Microsoft in violation. The issue is that NO ONE has found Microsoft in violation. You said: "I'm afraid you are wrong, It has been tested in Court with PhoneFactor." How can anything be "tested" when the case was never adjudicated in court? There was no verdict of any kind. There was simply an out-of-court settlement. Kay was desperate for funds. Microsoft knew this. Microsoft settled with a patent troll for a cost that was probably insignificant to Microsoft. You continually throw around the $9.7 million settlement/license fee? Is there any second party (Microsoft) corroboration of this figure. Is there any independent third party corroboration of this figure? Or is this figure only an unsubstantiated utterance from Strikeforce?