Replies to post #3522 on The Question and Answer Board (IHUB)

[MMMARY]

Matt: posting history

I know you're not talking about me. I like to spread my harassment around to a FEW deserving people ;-) I actually only harass harassing stock promoters, pump and dumpers and Kurious Kats ;-)

[NorthWesterner]

Guess you mean me.

In the past few days, close to 100% of my posting history is made up of talking to or about you.

Guess I know where I'm not wanted. I'll too-de-loo off before I'm kicked off.

Good luck, Matt.

I mean that.

And you'll need it.

[MMMARY]

Answer for matt

That is a good question. Where do heated debates stop and cyber stalking/harassment begin.

I mainly post about stock fraud (besides my main stocks) so I follow the stock frauds and their associated "frauders" around and post about them and the stock fraud. Most fraud people work the same frauds. A good percentage of my posts will then be directed toward the stock "frauders" who will attack my every negative post. My percentage could go up because of their attacks on me so the percentage would be misleading.

Also, if someone takes a poke at me for no reason, I don't just sit there. I reply and poke back. If someone is poking me all the time, harassing me, I will be replying all the time, harassing them? They could be causing my posting percentage to change.

Here's a good example. joelong and jmhollen don't like me because I outed their umcc and tmot touts respectively and they lost money. They follow me all over these boards and just personally attack me, post my home address and phone number, slander me, blah, blah, blah... They're not even posting on boards/stocks that they cover anymore. Who is harassing whom?

I also think that some posters like to yell TOS all the time just to get rid of their detractors and people posting the truth. It can get in the way of their scams. I do know that one certain poster has a cozy relationship with RB tos and he tos's one poster all the time claiming harassment, not me. In that case, that certain poster is actually harassing the one that he says is harassing him.

I personally believe that a good percentage of these communications on these boards are just people harassing other people. It's tough not to get into heated debates when people are taking about money, fraud and losing stocks they've fallen in love with. I think you need to deal with each case individually. Perhaps take the two offenders into a chat room with you and try to talk it out. IF it's just a person trying to keep another poster from ripping people off here with pump and dump lies, I think he should stay and keep up the good work ;-) Just my two cents.

[mr.mark]

matt

re, "If someone's posting history is made up of 30%+ talking about another member, would you folks consider that harrasment?"

i would consider that not paying attention to what matters most, which is their own business.

everybody around here is so preoccupied with what someone else is doing, saying, getting away with, not doing, their tone of voice, what they meant, how it was taken, whether it could be evidence, should it be allowed, how many names do they have, is it fair, are they right, are they wrong, are they crooked, are they joking, can they really fight, and on and on and on....

and i'm left wondering how these busybodies have any time left to conduct their own affairs in a dignified and diligent manner. how come everybody around here knows so much about what the other guy is supposed to be doing? how'd everybody get to be so smart, so together, so perfect and so above reproach that they can get away with telling other people how to run their lives?

anyone around here ever heard of humility? cutting the other guy a little slack? patience? the wisdom of letting things just be? and here's a bizarre concept.... kindness?

there's an old song lyric that goes, "nobody's right if everybody's wrong". it would be to all ihub member's benefit to ponder that little snip of truth for a moment.

so, you ask, "If someone's posting history is made up of 30%+ talking about another member, would you folks consider that harrasment?". i say yes. i say people ought to try minding there own darn business with as much vigor as they seem to be devoting to minding everyone else's.

too many people trying to be 'general manager of the universe' around here. see what a relief it can be to yourself and to others when you finally decide to resign from the position!

:)

mark

[CoolBreeze]

Matt,

since you are obviously referring to my posts to and about John M Hollen, I will put my "two cents" worth into the equation.

Like Mary previously stated, I hate scams and scammers. I can PROVE Hollen is attempting to initiate scams on the unsuspecting therefore, I post in response to his SCAMS and what he is trying to do to others; namely, steal their money!

If you KNEW factually that someone was repeatedly trying to do harm to someone else would you not sound the warning bell as often and as loudly as you could in an attempt to warn that person? That is what I do with John M Hollen. He is not simply posting opinion; he is outwardly trying to manipulate stock prices with fraudulent statements about his knowledge of, connection to and information on certain stocks and insiders. He is blatantly violating SEC trading rules and I know others who have listened to him have lost money.

You asked, who drew blood first. Well, Hollen has. Not only with me but with several others. His arrogant, beligerant and manipulative posts have brought this on himself. I find it quite amusing he went running to you to get me to stop. No doubt he has requested that you delete me form this forum whereby, he can continue to purpetrate his scams on more people. If you look at the RB boards he has used DOZENS of alias' to run his scams.

The last thing I have to say on this (for now, anyway) is I have absolutely no intention of laying off of John M Hollen. If you delete me, then do what you have to do! But, remember my warning! Holle IS going to take a fall and anyone and everyone connected to him will go also. Do your really think this person is worth protecting? Is he really worth sticking your own neck into the noose and potentially swinging with him? I guarantee you this; he will sell you out in a heart-beat if it means saving his own hide. That's the type of "friend" you have here, Matt.

From the magical fingers of............. CoolBreeze!

[Bird of Prey]

It would depend...


1. If everything referenced was positive...NO it may not be harrassment.
2. What is the nature of the other 70%? If it is typically relevant...NO it may not be harrassment.
3. If all comments are negative...especially if remainder of posts are commenting on other posters...YES it may be harrassment.

Lastly, if posts are on many different boards and quickly follow a post made by the target...not only do you have harrassment, but you may have a cyberstalker.

David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com