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Re: kpf post# 3097

Saturday, 04/26/2003 12:35:24 PM

Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:35:24 PM

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Core-Logic plus 1MB of L2-Cache on a Thorougbred-size die.
Obviously we see a hybrid-process here: Core-Logic somewhere
between 90 and 130nm and Cache well below 90 nm structures already.


Perhaps you should consider the effect of highly optimized design and layout.

The L3 cache in McKinley packs 3 MB in 175 mm2. That's less than 60 mm2
per MB. That's in a 0.18 um process. I am not sure AMD even got to 60 mm2
per MB in Opteron even though it is in a full process shrink compared to
McKinley (0.13 um vs 0.18 um). BTW, the McKinley L3 uses a highly dense
hand designed sub-block architecture that Intel claimed was denser and
had higher cell efficiency than the best commercial SRAMs.

No doubt a few readers won't be able to accept that Intel engineers came up
with a new and innovative way to do something and will continue to grope
around looking for process-based excuses and explanations.
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