Saturday, November 15, 2025 10:11:26 AM
Giving slightly more colour on the chances of COL being genuine vs false positive and the predicted effect size with probabilities:
What does “unbiased GWAS” really mean here?
The preprint explicitly says the GWAS was preplanned in the protocol and that COL24A1 WT was identified through that analysis.
That implies:
They decided in advance to run a broad genetic scan to look for response modifiers.
They did not pre-decide that COL24A1 would be the gene of interest – it emerged from the data.
We still don’t know the exact number of variants tested (that’ll be in the separate GWAS paper), but in standard GWAS terms:
A p-value around 10?5 is “suggestive”, not “genome-wide definitive” (that’s usually p < 5×10?8).
So on statistics alone, COL24A1 is interesting but not “case closed”. The reason it’s taken seriously is because of the combination of stats + biology + clinical pattern.
Why COL24A1 is much more than a random hit
a) Biology is very plausible
COL24A1 is:
a neuronal collagen
strongly expressed in hippocampus and cortex
part of the extracellular matrix (ECM) that shapes
protein clearance
tissue stiffness
synaptic environment
glial/microglial access to tissue
SIGMAR1 (blarcamesine’s pharmacological target) regulates:
autophagy / lysosomal function
proteostasis
ER stress & mitochondrial health
microglial over-activation
So a SIGMAR1 agonist improving intracellular clean-up plus a WT COL24A1 maintaining a more favourable ECM microenvironment is exactly the kind of mechanistic pairing you’d expect to matter in AD. COL24A1 is not a random gene you’d never think about – it sits in a very relevant pathway.
b) Clinical & MRI readouts are coherent
In the COL24A1/SIGMAR1 WT populations you see:
Bigger ADAS-Cog benefit
Bigger CDR-SB benefit
ADCS-ADL becoming clearly significant
QoL-AD improving
MRI atrophy slowing further
Random GWAS artefacts very rarely give you this many aligned signals across multiple independent outcome domains, especially in a ~500-patient trial.
Trial size context
The trial is much smaller than the big mAb Phase 3s, which actually makes very low p-values harder to achieve. You don’t get p˜10?4 to 10?5 across several endpoints in a subgroup this size just by accident very often.
Probability that COL24A1 is real, and how that maps onto effect size
Putting all that together (suggestive p-value, strong biology, coherent multi-endpoint pattern, modest n), a fair, rounded view is:
Roughly ~70–75% chance COL24A1 is a genuine treatment–response modifier,
~25–30% chance it’s mostly noise that shrinks or disappears on replication.
If COL24A1 is real, the big question becomes: how big is the effect once you pre-specify it and re-test?
Subgroup effects are almost always inflated in the first readout, so it’s safer to think in three effect bands + the null case:
1️⃣ Small but real effect (most likely)
Extra benefit over ITT: ~+0.3 to +0.6 ADAS-Cog points at 1 year
Total effect: –2.3 to –2.6 vs placebo
Probability: ~30–40%
This is the most “replication-friendly” level.
2️⃣ Moderate effect (best single central estimate)
Extra benefit: ~+0.7 to +1.2 points
Total effect: roughly –2.7 to –3.2 vs placebo
Probability: ~20–30%
If I had to put a pin in one number as a central guess, I’d land around +1 point of additional ADAS-Cog benefit in the double-WT population vs ITT.
3️⃣ High effect (similar to the initial ABCLEAR3 30 mg readout, least likely)
Extra benefit: ≥ +1.5 points
Total effect: ≤ –3.5 vs placebo
Probability: ~10–15%
Still on the table, but the least likely of the “real effect” scenarios.
4️⃣ No true COL24A1 effect (false positive)
Extra benefit: 0
Total effect: stays around –2.0 vs placebo
Probability: ~25–30%
That completes the probability picture in a way that respects both the stats and the biology.
How does this sit relative to the mAbs?
Leqembi (lecanemab) was initially refused by CHMP, then approved after re-examination with the indication restricted to patients with 0 or 1 copy of ApoE4 based on additional subgroup analyses showing lower ARIA risk in that group.
Kisunla (donanemab) followed a similar pattern: an initial negative CHMP opinion then a positive one after re-examination, again with the label restricted to patients with 0 or 1 ApoE4 copy.
In both cases:
the final approved population was not the broad all-comers population from the initial refusal,
and CHMP explicitly accepted subgroup-based narrowing of the indication after additional analyses at re-examination.
That doesn’t make COL24A1 “the same thing”, but it does show that:
CHMP is willing to base final labels on subgroup data that crystallise during the review / re-examination process, provided the overall benefit–risk is favourable.
For blarcamesine, the base ITT is already positive, safety is cleaner than mAbs, MRI is supportive, and COL24A1/SIGMAR1 is mechanistically coherent. That makes the ABCLEAR precision-medicine angle a reasonable part of a conditional-approval argument, not a wild stretch."
What does “unbiased GWAS” really mean here?
The preprint explicitly says the GWAS was preplanned in the protocol and that COL24A1 WT was identified through that analysis.
That implies:
They decided in advance to run a broad genetic scan to look for response modifiers.
They did not pre-decide that COL24A1 would be the gene of interest – it emerged from the data.
We still don’t know the exact number of variants tested (that’ll be in the separate GWAS paper), but in standard GWAS terms:
A p-value around 10?5 is “suggestive”, not “genome-wide definitive” (that’s usually p < 5×10?8).
So on statistics alone, COL24A1 is interesting but not “case closed”. The reason it’s taken seriously is because of the combination of stats + biology + clinical pattern.
Why COL24A1 is much more than a random hit
a) Biology is very plausible
COL24A1 is:
a neuronal collagen
strongly expressed in hippocampus and cortex
part of the extracellular matrix (ECM) that shapes
protein clearance
tissue stiffness
synaptic environment
glial/microglial access to tissue
SIGMAR1 (blarcamesine’s pharmacological target) regulates:
autophagy / lysosomal function
proteostasis
ER stress & mitochondrial health
microglial over-activation
So a SIGMAR1 agonist improving intracellular clean-up plus a WT COL24A1 maintaining a more favourable ECM microenvironment is exactly the kind of mechanistic pairing you’d expect to matter in AD. COL24A1 is not a random gene you’d never think about – it sits in a very relevant pathway.
b) Clinical & MRI readouts are coherent
In the COL24A1/SIGMAR1 WT populations you see:
Bigger ADAS-Cog benefit
Bigger CDR-SB benefit
ADCS-ADL becoming clearly significant
QoL-AD improving
MRI atrophy slowing further
Random GWAS artefacts very rarely give you this many aligned signals across multiple independent outcome domains, especially in a ~500-patient trial.
Trial size context
The trial is much smaller than the big mAb Phase 3s, which actually makes very low p-values harder to achieve. You don’t get p˜10?4 to 10?5 across several endpoints in a subgroup this size just by accident very often.
Probability that COL24A1 is real, and how that maps onto effect size
Putting all that together (suggestive p-value, strong biology, coherent multi-endpoint pattern, modest n), a fair, rounded view is:
Roughly ~70–75% chance COL24A1 is a genuine treatment–response modifier,
~25–30% chance it’s mostly noise that shrinks or disappears on replication.
If COL24A1 is real, the big question becomes: how big is the effect once you pre-specify it and re-test?
Subgroup effects are almost always inflated in the first readout, so it’s safer to think in three effect bands + the null case:
1️⃣ Small but real effect (most likely)
Extra benefit over ITT: ~+0.3 to +0.6 ADAS-Cog points at 1 year
Total effect: –2.3 to –2.6 vs placebo
Probability: ~30–40%
This is the most “replication-friendly” level.
2️⃣ Moderate effect (best single central estimate)
Extra benefit: ~+0.7 to +1.2 points
Total effect: roughly –2.7 to –3.2 vs placebo
Probability: ~20–30%
If I had to put a pin in one number as a central guess, I’d land around +1 point of additional ADAS-Cog benefit in the double-WT population vs ITT.
3️⃣ High effect (similar to the initial ABCLEAR3 30 mg readout, least likely)
Extra benefit: ≥ +1.5 points
Total effect: ≤ –3.5 vs placebo
Probability: ~10–15%
Still on the table, but the least likely of the “real effect” scenarios.
4️⃣ No true COL24A1 effect (false positive)
Extra benefit: 0
Total effect: stays around –2.0 vs placebo
Probability: ~25–30%
That completes the probability picture in a way that respects both the stats and the biology.
How does this sit relative to the mAbs?
Leqembi (lecanemab) was initially refused by CHMP, then approved after re-examination with the indication restricted to patients with 0 or 1 copy of ApoE4 based on additional subgroup analyses showing lower ARIA risk in that group.
Kisunla (donanemab) followed a similar pattern: an initial negative CHMP opinion then a positive one after re-examination, again with the label restricted to patients with 0 or 1 ApoE4 copy.
In both cases:
the final approved population was not the broad all-comers population from the initial refusal,
and CHMP explicitly accepted subgroup-based narrowing of the indication after additional analyses at re-examination.
That doesn’t make COL24A1 “the same thing”, but it does show that:
CHMP is willing to base final labels on subgroup data that crystallise during the review / re-examination process, provided the overall benefit–risk is favourable.
For blarcamesine, the base ITT is already positive, safety is cleaner than mAbs, MRI is supportive, and COL24A1/SIGMAR1 is mechanistically coherent. That makes the ABCLEAR precision-medicine angle a reasonable part of a conditional-approval argument, not a wild stretch."
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