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Wednesday, 07/17/2024 8:11:44 AM

Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:11:44 AM

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brooklyn13, Still stuck in stupid, eh -- Road to Redemption
How Israel's War Against Hamas Turned Into a Springboard for Jewish Settlement in Gaza

The IDF has taken control of 26% of the Gaza Strip, building bases and paving roads. Israel's religious
right is already advancing towards its target. This is how it looks through the eyes of Israeli soldiers

Yarden Michaeli and Avi Scharf
Jul 8, 2024

Opening video: Battalion 22 fighters. Published under Section 27A of the Copyright Law

The Israeli army's occupation of parts of the Gaza Strip, for an undefined period of time, is one of the most dramatic developments in the war that began with Hamas' surprise attack on Israel on October 7.

The IDF considers Israeli control over these areas as a strategic step, while Israel's political leadership is pushing to continue the war. In the ongoing cease-fire negotiations, Hamas is demanding that Israel withdraw from areas that have been occupied and to end the war. Despite reports suggesting progress in the negotiations, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made it clear Israel may renew the fighting, and the parties are still far from reaching an agreement.

The army's activities in the occupied areas are diverse: expanding military bases, building infrastructure and even paving roads, all while under persistent Hamas fire. Based on satellite imagery analysis and other open sources, Haaretz calculates that the Israeli army now controls about 26 percent of Gaza.

A senior IDF officer discussing the territory under full IDF control in the heart of Gaza called it "an effort at prolonged occupation." But the military's activity also provides a tailwind for supporters of the reestablishment of settlements which were evacuated in 2005. Conditions for the emergence of a new reality are being created: an indefinite Israeli presence in Gaza.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2024-07-08/ty-article-static/.premium/israel-seized-26-of-gaza-now-jewish-settlers-see-their-chance/00000190-77cd-d705-a7f5-fffffcbc0000

It's one of those cool scroll down jogs. And, brooklyn13, no doubt Al Jazeera whose reporters
have been banned from Israel has more credibility on the situation than you could ever find.

Israel bans Al Jazeera: What does it mean and what happens next?
Al Jazeera said it will pursue available legal channels to protect its journalists from Israel’s ‘slanderous’ shutdown.
By Al Jazeera Staff 6 May 2024
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/6/israel-bans-al-jazeera-what-does-it-mean-and-what-happens-next

Hang on, you prick massacre-lover. You want more from Israel's perspective, here you are - AGAIN -

American Leaders Should Stop Debasing Themselves on Israel
[...]
[Insert: "No friend of Israel..." exactly the sentiment repeated here since Oct 7. See only one:
brooklyn13, Your reasoning makes Trump look intelligently honest. For one, our world
is not a morality play. In fact it is far from it. And your
[...]...i reckon he would say you are far from a friend of Israel.
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Israel’s relatively small combat officer corps has been so ground down, I cannot imagine how it could sustain a war in Lebanon.

Add it all up and you see a reckless act of economic, military and moral overstretchcommitting seven million Jews to control more than seven million Palestinians .. https://www.timesofisrael.com/jews-now-a-minority-in-israel-and-the-territories-demographer-says/ .. (including two million Israeli Arabs) between the river and the sea in perpetuity.

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[You're right there Mr. Friedman, just you could have given Shimon Peres credit for saying it long ago. See:
brooklyn13, There are responses to attacks, and responses. I'll remind you of positions
of two very prominent and respected Israel leaders. One late, one still with us.
Ehud Barak blames Binyamin Netanyahu for “the greatest failure in Israel’s history”
[...]As Peres told them so many decades ago:
P - That is, Peres thinks that the Likud Party and its partners are living in a fool’s paradise if they believe they can annex the whole of Palestinian territory without getting the Palestinians as Israeli citizens eventually. And then, Peres says, no more Israel as a Jewish state.
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Reminder: Related: Ehud Barak: the military mast aring a US television interview last year that he would "probably" strive for nuclear weapons if he were in Iran's position.
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P - With more -- https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174402440
P - Only a sentence more here -- https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174402925
P - brooklyn13, We all feel Israel's pain. Just both Peres then and Barak now were and are able to have a much
more realistic look at it than you are willing to do. They as some of us here today also feel Palestinian pain.
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That would be madness in a time of peace. In a time of war — a low-grade three-front war that could become a high-grade three-front war any day — it is insane. Israel is increasingly alone, because what ally would want to partner with that agenda?

And that is why I agree with every word that former Prime Minister Ehud Barak wrote in Haaretz .. https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-06-13/ty-article-opinion/.premium/israel-must-oust-its-failed-government-before-it-sinks-into-the-moral-abyss/00000190-1285-d621-abfa-5bb5e9840000 .. last Thursday: Israel faces “the most serious and dangerous crisis in the country’s history. It began on Oct. 7 with the worst failure in Israel’s history. And it continued with a war that, despite the courage and sacrifice of soldiers and officers, appears to be the least successful war in its history, due to the strategic paralysis in the country’s leadership.”

Israel, added Barak, a former army chief of staff, is “risking a multifront war that would include Iran and its proxies. And all this is happening while in the background the judicial coup continues, with its goal of establishing a racist, ultranationalist, messianic and benighted religious dictatorship.”

Barak warned that if the current government is allowed to remain in power, Israel will not only find itself stuck in Gaza — with Hamas still able to fight and no Arab partner to help Israel out of there — it will also most likely find itself “in an all-out war with Hezbollah in the north, a third intifada in the West Bank, conflicts with the Houthis in Yemen and Iraqi militias in the Golan Heights and, of course, conflict with Iran itself.”

Every American should worry about that. It is a prescription for the United States to be dragged into a Middle East war to help Israel — which would be a Russian, Chinese, Iranian dream come true.
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Are Ehud Barak and the late Shimon Peres Israeli enough for you, you silly, silly, little man.

Still stuck i see, brooklyn13. Never ever will you be free of the shame you feel about your position to date on this.

How stupid can you get, you're much better off just reading.

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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