Tornado Alley (PROG)

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conix, I understand why you cannot comprehend how so many of the protesting students are able to express outrage at Netanyahu's overreaction to the Hamas atrocity and his misguided ruination of Israel's future, while at the same time having empathy with the Palestinian plight. You cannot understand because you are you. We have seen your water-glider approach to numerous issues here for years. In this you are no different.

"Imagine pushing the concept of "seeing both sides".
Kind of like what the Columbia students do."

If you could only seriously see and consider the views of two prominent Israel individuals.
Two from the post you took 5 minutes to garner one tiny cherry pick from:

Firstly, thanks to Juan Cole, the late Shimon Peres:

Shimon Peres doubts Israel can win Permanent war or Survive Annexation of West Bank
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“Better to have a Jewish state on part of the land than have the whole land without the Jewish state,” he said. “Israel should implement the two-state solution for her own sake because if we should lose our majority, and today we are almost equal, we cannot remain a Jewish state or a democratic state . . . That’s the main issue, and to my regret they (the government) do the opposite.”
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That is, Peres thinks that the Likud Party and its partners are living in a fool’s paradise if they believe they can annex the whole of Palestinian territory without getting the Palestinians as Israeli citizens eventually. And then, Peres says, no more Israel as a Jewish state.

Netanyahu is willing to live by the sword more or less permanently in order to accomplish his annexation of the Palestinian West Bank. Peres thinks this approach foolish and dangerous.

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“The alternative to two states is a continued war and nobody can maintain a war forever. If you say we should live on our sword don’t forget that there are other swords as well . . .
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Peres called bullshit on Netanyahu’s constant refrain that he is ready for peace talks, noting that he never has actually concluded any peace agreements. It is all talk, he said.

November, 2015 - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118223699

Secondly, to Ehud Barak:

Inside Israel’s war
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Four Corners goes face-to-face with Israel’s powerful political and military voices.

By John Lyons — with Jonathan Miller, Mayeta Clark and Maddy King

Four Corners
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=australia+four+corners
Updated 11 Mar 2024, 9:49am
Published 11 Mar 2024, 5:50am

Ehud Barak says more than two decades ago he was new enough in Israeli politics to tell the truth.
He declared then that if he was a Palestinian, he’d probably be a terrorist.

That comment could have derailed a spectacular military and political career, but the former general chief of staff of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) went on to become prime minister and defence minister.

Today, as the world holds its breath in anticipation of a ceasefire in Gaza, the former leader offers a frank assessment of Israeli intelligence.

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174018497

You would need hours to understand the difference between Trump's "both sides" and Biden's ability to be
disturbed by both Netanyahu's misguided mission and by the the plight of the persecuted Palestinians.