I highly disagree. There’s a gigantic difference between a failed business venture by legit businessmen and than knowing they are involved in what many on here speculate about in saying ANDI is a pump and dump or a scam. Highly doubt Ilja Laurs and Loudon Owen need money and would put themselves in a situation like that! Lol I know what I own in my shares! Utop is just getting started here. Well worth the wait to see where this goes! No failure yet!! Utop strong!!! Good luck!