saluki - thanks for the summary. FWIW - regarding the first point - BioShield for a long time stopped making the product and everything is and has been subcontracted to ITC. Which if you read past posts by Utoh - you would have noticed that that relationship is a cash only one now. In other words for ITC to make the stuff they want to be paid up front. I surmise in the business world that causes a head ache or two.