Friday, May 30, 2003 9:08:03 PM
OrionSciFi:Vote NO then. That's Up To You
But after being here for all of two days, maybe you oughta wait a bit before making judgments about posters and the content of posts and where most of the venom is coming from?!!!?.
FYI: I for one don't especially appreciate your
(mis)characterizing me based on your misperception of one post I made that you happened to see and putting me on some complaint list!
FYI: I was baiting them to come forward prompted by corpbuyer's galling and absurd challenge that F6 oughta apologize to the anonymous gutless wonders! (gimme a break!!)
Yeah I know that you said earlier that you think it is gutsy somehow to pay for PR which is something I don't follow the exact connection between laying out a few bucks and guts? As a matter of fact, the reason that they paid most likely had NOTHING to do with 'guts' but what they perceived their own self interest to be. Either they feel that they are losing money based on the incredibly overblown and misstated exaggerated dilution argument OR they were shorts trying to create a negative image of the company by suggesting some kind of scandal involving self dealing and unjust enrichment.
What would have shown guts was standing up and standing behind what they said--not with money but by STANDING UP! It takes more guts to do that then lay out a few $$$ IMHO
Your assertion that 'most of the venom' is coming from the YES camp is IMHO incorrect--based apparently on your limited sampling of the posts on the board. If you want to see venom you should see what's been said about management, what's been said about Jimlur, what's been said about ME and others.
Listen: we are ALL tired of this issue and the constant drumbeat--and that is not coming from the YES camp. I don't see anyone from the YES camp trying to persuade others to vote YES--just saying why THEY are voting YES
I do see at least one NO voter who doesn't post on ANY other topic and who ends EVERY post advocating that others vote NO.
I see an organized campaign from the NO voters--or at least a few of them.
I see the yeses responding sometimes. Yesterday I begged them to stop trying to drag me back into the whole discussion saying that the dead horse had been beaten more than enough and that soon someone would be calling PETA.
I also see that various people from both sides have STOOD UP and said why THEY are voting YES or NO.
And I respect them whether I agree or not. Reasonable minds can differ IMHO. And that's fine.
But what the folks behind the PR did was sneaky manipulative underhanded misleading and unfair to the members of this board. They deliberately created the impression that they spoke not just for themselves, but for the rest of us too. And that is what created the bitterness and divisiveness and the hard feelings--not their NO position.
FYI I wasn't 'attacking' anyone. Anonymous people can't be 'attacked' IMHO
But after being here for all of two days, maybe you oughta wait a bit before making judgments about posters and the content of posts and where most of the venom is coming from?!!!?.
FYI: I for one don't especially appreciate your
(mis)characterizing me based on your misperception of one post I made that you happened to see and putting me on some complaint list!
FYI: I was baiting them to come forward prompted by corpbuyer's galling and absurd challenge that F6 oughta apologize to the anonymous gutless wonders! (gimme a break!!)
Yeah I know that you said earlier that you think it is gutsy somehow to pay for PR which is something I don't follow the exact connection between laying out a few bucks and guts? As a matter of fact, the reason that they paid most likely had NOTHING to do with 'guts' but what they perceived their own self interest to be. Either they feel that they are losing money based on the incredibly overblown and misstated exaggerated dilution argument OR they were shorts trying to create a negative image of the company by suggesting some kind of scandal involving self dealing and unjust enrichment.
What would have shown guts was standing up and standing behind what they said--not with money but by STANDING UP! It takes more guts to do that then lay out a few $$$ IMHO
Your assertion that 'most of the venom' is coming from the YES camp is IMHO incorrect--based apparently on your limited sampling of the posts on the board. If you want to see venom you should see what's been said about management, what's been said about Jimlur, what's been said about ME and others.
Listen: we are ALL tired of this issue and the constant drumbeat--and that is not coming from the YES camp. I don't see anyone from the YES camp trying to persuade others to vote YES--just saying why THEY are voting YES
I do see at least one NO voter who doesn't post on ANY other topic and who ends EVERY post advocating that others vote NO.
I see an organized campaign from the NO voters--or at least a few of them.
I see the yeses responding sometimes. Yesterday I begged them to stop trying to drag me back into the whole discussion saying that the dead horse had been beaten more than enough and that soon someone would be calling PETA.
I also see that various people from both sides have STOOD UP and said why THEY are voting YES or NO.
And I respect them whether I agree or not. Reasonable minds can differ IMHO. And that's fine.
But what the folks behind the PR did was sneaky manipulative underhanded misleading and unfair to the members of this board. They deliberately created the impression that they spoke not just for themselves, but for the rest of us too. And that is what created the bitterness and divisiveness and the hard feelings--not their NO position.
FYI I wasn't 'attacking' anyone. Anonymous people can't be 'attacked' IMHO
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