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Sunday, 04/02/2006 12:02:34 PM

Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:02:34 PM

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There is something else going on with this immigration issue. The entire complexion has changed. The US government for a long time has virtually ignored its existence and now is scurrying to implement programs. While people argue the old standby issues of wages, fences, employers’ responsibilities it seems to me immigrants are infiltrating this country very much like sleeper cells awaiting orders and they are not just Muslim. If this were only about Mexican immigration the US would most probably continue to look the other way. If this pertained to terrorism why the changes now when after 9/11 our borders were left porous?

One thing, Mexico is in danger of going left, this being a new change on the horizon.
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The line of questioning below is very significant.
He also was asked whether the U.S. government should have concerns about Venezuelan immigrants and whether they might act upon declarations or pronouncements from that country's embassy or consulate.
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The following text is one of the worst unreferenced pieces I have read by a crazy person no less.
A few helicopter gun ships could seal the border instantly until a serious fence, land mines, or moat could be built or placed along the entire border. The loss of Mexican life would then be less than the loss currently incurred by Mexicans and others as they attempt to cross the long dessert; often on foot. Yes, yes it is politically incorrect and seemingly contrary to our Statute of Liberty image to use land mines and helicopter gun ships, but these would be trivial issues if there were 10 million dead Americans slowly dying from a chemical, biological, or nuclear attack.

However there are some proven facts that he cites but I would prefer to have more references on the China statement.

This underground pipeline originates in countries as far away as China, Brazil and Nigeria, where professional smugglers charge thousands of dollars to transport aliens to the United States.

Brazil is mentioned. For the past three years, an annual conference called the World Social Forum has been the biggest international gathering of radicals on earth, attended by all the leaders of the world left. Labor unions, Communist parties, non-governmental organizations, anti-globalization activists, anti-American 'peace' groups, multiple heads of state, and the representatives of armed guerilla insurgencies all gather yearly at Porto Alegre, Brazil, to make new connections and plan for the future.

And China is mentioned, a country for which the US is preparing for war and has previously stated is its number one enemy.
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I just don’t think that all of these immigrants from certain countries are here for a better life. This issue is no longer focused almost exclusively on Mexicans or Muslims. Something has changed. IMO

-Am

DEMOCRATS GAMBLE WITH 10 MILLION LIVES
By Ted Baiamonte Comments: bje1000@aol.com (04/01/2006)

Here are some key facts:
1) The 9/11 commission has stated the al Qaeda considers it a solemn obligation to launch a nuclear attack against the United States.

2) The CIA has stated that it cannot account for missing nuclear material and that such material might already be in the hands of al-Queda.

3) The Mexican border is virtually wide open as an area through which such an attack might be launched. In some areas, such as Organ Pipe National Park, it has been possible to drive across completely undetected.

4) According to Adm. Loy, "al Qaeda plans to use Mexico's professional people smugglers, also known as coyotes, to infiltrate terrorists across our southern border. Adm. Loy's information is based on recent interrogations and has been confirmed by ongoing counter terrorist operations. This underground pipeline originates in countries as far away as China, Brazil and Nigeria, where professional smugglers charge thousands of dollars to transport aliens to the United States. Many of these smuggling networks converge in Mexico, where coyotes intimately familiar with the gaps in our security take over the task of transporting aliens beyond the border into our cities. Aliens who prefer can travel to Mexico's border towns and hire their own coyotes as guides for the final passage. To assist them, the Mexican Foreign Ministry has prepared a handbook for illegal aliens."

5) "Salim Boughader Mucharrafille was also ordered by U.S. District Judge Thomas Whelan to spend three years under supervised release and was fined $5,000. Boughader pleaded guilty in March to running a ring that helped more than 100 immigrants cross the border into San Diego. Most of the immigrants were Lebanese."

6) A few helicopter gun ships could seal the border instantly until a serious fence, land mines, or moat could be built or placed along the entire border. The loss of Mexican life would then be less than the loss currently incurred by Mexicans and others as they attempt to cross the long dessert; often on foot. Yes, yes it is politically incorrect and seemingly contrary to our Statute of Liberty image to use land mines and helicopter gun ships, but these would be trivial issues if there were 10 million dead Americans slowly dying from a chemical, biological, or nuclear attack.


7) The Statue of Liberty theme is dead and defunct. Half the world's refugees come to America now. Most of the world would become refugees and come to America because 200 years of Republican values have produced obvious results. That the America hating Democrats can't see is testimony to their treasonous stupidity. That Democrats would sell the Statue of Liberty theme and amnesty to every would be refugee on earth for votes is just another of their anti American tricks to maintain power.


8) We probably don't need Mexicans despite their cheap labor: 1) they consume more in social services than they pay in taxes 2) they steal jobs from poor Americans who then need social services 3) they encourage American poor to think of themselves as part of the entitlement class rather than the Republican working class, 4) their low wages discourage employers from automating many jobs such as lettuce and raisin picking 5) American poor are poor because of Democrats but vote for Democrats not realizing that Democrats have made them poor with immigrants and various welfare schemes 6) Legal Mexican poor and their sympathizers vote for Democrats who then favor more immigration and amnesty 7) they discourage respect for the law 8) they encourage the further Balkanization of America 8) they don't devote any energy to promoting Republican economic values in Mexico thereby further destroying Mexico and concomitantly creating the need for even more immigration to America.

7) "The polarizing debate over Proposition 187 (wherein Republicans favored modest just immigration "reform") in California has been correctly blamed for sinking the Republican Party in California, and possibly the entire country in the longer term, and allowing Democrats to dominate Sacramento."

8) The Democrats have concluded that the votes they get from an open nuclear border are more important than the potential nuclear attack on the United States.

Conclusion:

The Democrats subsist based on a subversive anti-American calculus wherein they buy votes from their various special interest groups by promising them amnesty or money (mostly taxed from their other special interest groups) and/or programs. In this case, to close the sale, Democrats are gambling with the life of a major American City (assuming al-Qaeda attacks only one city.) If the deal doesn't pay off, i.e., if an American City is successfully attacked, the Democrats should accede to a Constitutional Amendment banning them forever from American soil. Better yet, just for having the infinite and brain-dead audacity to make such a gamble with so many American lives in the first place they should accede to such an Amendment right now.

Ted Baiamonte

http://americandaily.com/article/12774






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