I'm not big on posting a lot, but I couldn't help but empathize with your plight about Canadian insider data -- once upon a time, it was me who was complaining

Everything you want is at SEDI -- unfortunately their site is a pain in the butt to navigate, so you'll have to fiddle with it a bit to get it to give you what you want -- https://www.sedi.ca/sedi/SVTWelcome?locale=en_ca&pageName=splashPage

My reco: Start at the top right by clicking on "access public filings" -- on the next page there are 3 frames at the left that will lead to 3 different types of inquiries -- with some practice you can figure it out from there

Once you get the hang of it and get into the database, you can save your search results as PDFs for later reference

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=39666925

Not much anymore, or at least not the pinkies -- I'm inherently lazy and it's too much work trying to ferret stuff out

I really didn't want to ruin the story, but it was obviously bogus -- IMO Ovechkin is perfectly capable of making a complete ass out of himself in public without any help from bloggers making shit up

Mind you, if I was getting paid $10 million a year to shoot pucks inside a 24 sq ft metal frame attached to an ice surface, I doubt that I'd give a rat's ass what people thought of me

It costs bazillions to look at bazoobies in Zimbabwe, mon ROFL

Excuse the buttinksi here, but I feel compelled to speak

That's a South African peeler joint, not a Canadian one -- http://www.teazers.co.za/clubs/3

FWIW that tab for SA Rand 9,146 on March 17, 2007 would have converted to about CDN $1,436 -- http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/exchform.html

But most importantly, on March 17, 2007, Washington was playing the Leafs, and Alex Ovechkin was therefore not sitting in a strip bar in South Africa, nor was Danny Markov -- not that I always want to let facts get in the way of a good story

After all, that picture was certainly taken somewhere interesting LOL

Testing the waters for clean tech

http://news.com.com/Testing+the+waters+for+clean+tech/2100-11395_3-6197924.html

By Martin LaMonica
Story last modified Mon Jul 23 08:36:26 PDT 2007

Clean water is always in demand, but what about clean water tech start-ups?

Sensicore, which builds sensors and software for monitoring municipal water quality, is hoping that investors have a big thirst for clean tech ventures. The Ann Arbor, Mich.-based company intends to file to go public on the Toronto Stock Exchange later this year, according to CEO Malcolm Kahn.

Founded in 2000, Sensicore is among a wave of clean tech start-ups creating technology to better manage natural resources. But even though water conservation and quality is an increasingly pressing problem, there are few high-tech water management companies.

Water utilities, which are heavily regulated, need to spend heavily to upgrade their basic infrastructure of pipes and treatment plants, rather than on cutting-edge technologies. Meanwhile, people expect pristine water from their taps but generally aren't willing to pay more for better water quality, said Rob Day, a principal at the clean-tech investment arm of @Ventures.

"It's a huge challenge to get people willing to pay for good water," Day said. "And we're not seeing as many entrepreneurs in the water space even though it's one of the biggest screaming needs."

Industrial giants like Siemens and General Electric have water purification businesses, and some start-ups such as Nano H2O that do specialized filtration technologies have attracted venture investment.

Sensicore, which started selling products earlier this year and is not yet profitable, is trying to distinguish itself by marrying information technology with water management, Kahn said.

Its system compiles water quality information and maps it onto a Web-based application that shows workers at a treatment plant what's happening in their distribution networks.

The basis of its product is "lab-on-a-chip" sensor technology, based on research from the University of Michigan. Rather than have a separate sensor to measure different chemicals, a single silicon chip-based sensor can gather several inputs, such as chlorine or ammonia levels.

The sensors are cheap enough so that municipalities can use many, which gives them redundancy in the case that a sensor breaks down. That means fewer trips out to water distribution pipelines for maintenance people and lower costs, Kahn said.

The company is already working on the next generation of its monitoring system, which is scheduled to be available next year. The sensors will be able to gather information over a range of different networks without having to send a field engineer to the sensors, Kahn said.

"The online incarnation will be able to continuously feed back to our networks," he said. "Ultimately, the strategy we have is the building of a database, a kind of fingerprint of the kinds of problems that happen in a water distribution system using common sensing technology."

Pipes over chips

As part of its Big Green Innovations initiative, IBM is looking at water management. IBM is trying to partner with Sensicore as it seeks out IT-related systems to modernize the decidedly low-tech world of water quality monitoring, according to Andrew Clark, director of strategy at IBM's Venture Capital Group.

IBM sees potential in gathering large amounts of water quality information and combining it with weather models. By crunching water data, it can build highly customized applications for municipalities or farmers to better manage water, Clark said.

"In most municipal areas in the U.S., we don't have a quality problem and we haven't had any terrorist issues," he said. "But in other countries, like China or India, they have terrible problems with quality."

Right now, Sensicore is selling to U.S. municipalities where its system is being used in about 50 facilities, Kahn said.

Maintenance crews use a handheld device to check on water quality, which pulls data from its sensors in the water. To get information from the distribution network back to a water treatment plant headquarters, a Bluetooth wireless connection passes information to a water engineer's cell phone, which is then sent to Sensicore's data centers.

Its software can be accessed via a Web browser and presents information using Microsoft's MapPoint Web service to give engineers a clearer idea of quality along the network.

Although municipalities in the U.S. are required to measure and meet quality thresholds, even Kahn admits selling to municipalities is not easy.

"If you look at the market dynamics, (municipalities) are spending upwards of $200 billion on infrastructure improvements, replacing pipes and putting in new lines," Kahn said. But "water quality is viewed today as more of a necessary evil."

As a result, Sensicore markets its system as a way to reduce spending on chemicals and service calls and to cut down on customer complaints.

Despite the tough environment, water-related venture capital deals are showing signs of going up. In the first half of the year, $37 million went into water treatment-related deals following $68 million in 2006, according to the Cleantech Group, which compiles data on venture investment.

That investment is dwarfed by energy-related deals, which were $2.6 billion in 2006. But growing concerns over water, stemming from climate change and concerns over national security, could drive more spending, said Cleantech Group Chief Operating Officer Craig Cuddeback.

Some of that spending may come from different sources than venture capitalists, though, such as bankers involved in multimillion-dollar project finance deals.

"If you talk to any venture capitalist, they will all say they are looking for a water deal," said @Venture's Day. But "utilities face challenges on a basic level of infrastructure improvement before they get into the type of technology solutions that a VC would like to back."

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Wow.

That post deserves to be on the Joke Board -- http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=30

Not sure what those people were on when they wrote that piece but it must have been some pretty good stuff

LOL -- that one's a bit too close to home

Water is the new oil, says CIBC

ROMA LUCIW
Globe and Mail Update

The colossal cost of fixing crumbling water infrastructure in the developed
world has opened the door to government privatization.

Water delivery systems in the industrial world are in "dire need" of repair,
says a report released Monday by CIBC World Markets Inc. At least one-fifth
of America's municipal wastewater treatment facilities do not comply with
federal regulations and in some U.S. cities, more than half of the water
headed to consumers is lost along the way.

CIBC economist Benjamin Tal, author of the "Tapping into Water" report,
estimates it will take "hundreds of billions of dollars" to fix dated water
infrastructure in North America and Europe.

Federal governments are not rushing to fix the infrastructure and
municipalities lack the means to do so. "As a result, governments are now
much more open to the notion of privatizing their water infrastructure
which, in turn, is providing a substantial boost to the private water
industry," Mr. Tal said.

"What we are witnessing here is a trend that is profoundly modifying water
as an investment theme throughout the world."

Canada has one of the world's largest supplies of fresh water, but has its
own water woes. Some British Columbia residents remain under a boil-water
advisory that first came into effect Nov. 16 when heavy rainfall triggered
mudslides and caused runoff into the Vancouver region's reservoirs. There
are fears that the water is contaminated with E. coli, the bacteria that
killed seven people in Walkerton, Ont., six years ago. The bacteria entered
the town's water supply from farm runoff, and residents had to boil or buy
their water for seven months after that supply was tainted.

Meanwhile, the business of water is booming.
Mr. Tal sees parallels between today's water industry and the oil industry
in its golden era, before and after the Second World War. "The market is
paying attention," he said. "Capital investment, deregulation,
consolidation, and privatization of global water assets and services are
advancing at a pace not seen before."

In the last three years, U.S.-based water companies - as measured by the
Bloomberg U.S. water index - have surged 150 per cent, three times the rise
seen by companies on the S&P 500, while paying twice as much in dividends.
International water players are doing even better, Mr. Tal said, with their
stock values rising twice as fast as their American counterparts in the past
year alone.

Water is an attractive investment because it is much less volatile than
industries driven by economic cycles, Mr. Tal said. Companies that
specialize in "water solutions" can range from pumps, pipes and valves,
wastewater treatment, to quality testing. European companies account for
half of the global water players, while American companies make up 36 per
cent.

In Canada, there are few ways for investors to directly invest in H2O.
However, the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board recently launched a bid
for a British water utility.

In order to attract private sector investment in water, municipalities are
allowing the price of water to rise to levels that resemble full recovery
costs. "Water prices in many industrialized countries are now rising much
faster than inflation, and this trend will only accelerate in the coming
years," Mr. Tal said.

World Bank estimates suggest that outsourcing and privatization in the water
sector are set to double in the coming five years to reach a near 40 per
cent share of the market.

"If crumbling water infrastructures in North America and Europe provide the
private water industry with great opportunities, the potential in the
developing world is even greater," Mr. Tal said.

The water investment theme is being supported by rising demand for clean
drinking water. Global water demand is doubling every twenty years and water
utilization rates have doubled in the past 45 years. The populations and
economies of Asian powerhouses China and India are expanding and the
countries are not only consuming more water, they are highly inefficient in
their use.

Still, the CIBC report stressed that the world is not running out of water.
The problem is that the global water supply is unevenly distributed with
nine countries possessing 60 per cent of the world's available freshwater
supply.

"As is the case with any other resources on earth, the main story lies in
the developing economies, where water shortage will only worsen in the
coming years due to rapid population growth, urbanization, climate change,
and the fact that globalization is highly water intensive," Mr. Tal said.

More news on SOI, still just watching myself --

SIRIOS/PONTAX : First Rock Channelling Returns 821 g/t Silver Over 4.36 Meters
11/15/2006
MONTREAL, CANADA, Nov 15, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX News Network) --

Directors of SIRIOS RESOURCES INC. (TSX VENTURE: SOI) are pleased to report the first rock channel sampling results from the PONTAX property where grab samples grading up to 1,665 g/t silver were previously released on October 30. The recent channelling was completed to validate the silver-gold occurence. The PONTAX property is located in the surrounding area of the Goldcorp's Eleonore project, Opinaca Reservoir, James Bay, Quebec.

Three (3) rock sawing channel samples totaling a 10-meter length returned the following grades :

C1 : 821 g/t Ag; 1.31 g/t Au; 0.56% Pb and 0.18% Zn over 4.36 meters incl. 3,343 g/t Ag; 5.4 g/t Au; 2.3 % Pb and 0.6 % Zn over 1.04 m.

C2 : 116 g/t Ag; 0.16 g/t Au; 0.15% Pb, and 0.27% Zn over 2.73 meters incl. 358 g/t Ag; 0.6 g/t Au; 0.4 % Pb and 0.5% Zn over 0.72 m.

C3 : 18 g/t Ag over 2.88 m. located at the outer limit of the mineralized zone

These channel samples come from the discovery outcrop, taken crosswise across the mineralized zone and located 10 m apart. A fourth 2.2-meter sample was channeled to check the host rock composition outside the mineralized trend more than 200 m away from the other ones and yielded no significant values. Sample assaying was performed at Lab Expert, Rouyn-Noranda, by fire assay and atomic absorbtion. All samples were duplicated and are currently reassayed at ALS-Chemex, Val-d'Or. Industry standard quality controls were applied, including blank insert between each sample.

SIRIOS completed this October-November a second more extensive channel sampling campaign, stripping, line cutting and geophysical (induced polarization) survey over a 2 sq. kilometer area surrounding the silver-gold discovery. Twelve new rock-saw channel samples totaling a 128-meter length were completed on six different outcrops located more than 400 m away from the discovery outcrop and were sent out for assaying.

The geophysical survey outlined a continuous chargeability anomaly extending over more than two kilometers, and which is open on both sides along strike. It shows an exceptional very high chargeability response over a little more than one kilometer of strike length, in direct association with the silver bearing zone. The geophysical data suggests that the silver bearing zone is open on both sides along strike, has a several meter width and is itself hosted within a larger disseminated sulfide mineralization halo of tens of meters in size. The whole of the mineralized occurrences in the area are coincidental with this anomaly.

The silver zone is hosted within silicified felsic volcanic pyroclastics (lapillis tuff, block tuff) bearing chlorite, mica and tourmaline. The mineralized zone is formed by disseminated sulfides (pyrite, galena, sphalerite and chalcopyrite) totalling less than 10% of the whole rock. This mineralization is associated to the pervasive alteration in the tuffs.

The exploration of the PONTAX property is carried out through a partnership with Dios Exploration Inc. (TSX VENTURE: DOS), a diamond explorer. Under the original 2005 agreement with DIOS, depending on the results, if the project is to focus specifically on gold or metals, SIRIOS has the option to buy back DIOS' share, by repaying in cash or shares (acquisition and exploration costs at book value) and vice versa, and DIOS keeps a 1% NSR on the claims transferred back to SIRIOS that can be bought back for 1,000,000 C$.

Field work is performed by the personnel of IOS Services Geoscientifiques Inc., Saguenay, Quebec, with the staff of SIRIOS, under the supervision of Rejean Girard, Geo., Qualified Person. Abitibi Geophysics Inc. of Val-d'Or, Quebec, carried out the 18,4 km line induced polarization and magnetometric survey.

The PONTAX property is located in James Bay, Quebec, some 350 km north of the town of Matagami along the paved road going to the town of Radisson. One hundred eighty new claims (pending) were added recently to this property totalling 1,680 claims covering more than 870 sq. kilometers. SIRIOS is actively exploring the Opinaca gold area, James Bay, Quebec.

This press release was prepared by Dominique Doucet, P. Eng., President of Sirios, Qualified Person, who made a third visit to the property last week.

The TSX Venture has not reviewed and does not accept responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release.

Contacts: Sirios Resources Inc. Mr. Dominique Doucet, Pres. 450-441-9569 Toll free : 1-866-441-9569 450-441-9570 (FAX) ddoucet@sirios.com www.sirios.com

SOURCE: SIRIOS RESOURCES INC.

mailto:ddoucet@sirios.com http://www.sirios.com
Copyright 2006 Market Wire, All rights reserved.

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I'm sure you already know this too, but I always ignore grab sample results because it's too easy for the geo to simply pick up the best rocks as he walks about the property -- show me some underground core with those assay values and then maybe I'll believe it

Monday, October 16, 2006

The Lure of Liquid Assets

By CHRISTOPHER C. WILLIAMS

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB116078723139892727.html

WALL STREET IS PUMPED ABOUT WATER, and for good reason. Globally, the $365
billion business is burgeoning as countries spend billions to repair and
build infrastructure to funnel clean water to people and industry. Some
experts think $1.5 trillion in capital spending could flow into the sector
in the next five years, promising a steady stream of business for a host of
companies, from pump makers to water utilities. The market, which
encompasses residential and industrial water and wastewater treatment and
services, is growing by 4% to 6% a year in developed countries, and as much
as 15% in emerging markets, estimates Goldman Sachs.

Less than 1% of the planet's water is drinkable. Yet, demand has been rising
steadily. A Unesco study estimates world consumption could reach 2,764
billion cubic kilometers by 2025, up from 2,182 billion in 2000.

To some degree, water stocks reflect the industry's bright prospects. The
Stanford Washington Research Group Water Index of 20 U.S. and international
stocks has returned 131% in the past five years, versus a puny 4% gain in
the Standand & Poor's 500 stock index. Much of the easy money has been made,
but investors willing to cast their nets a bit wider can find compelling
bargains.


Conglomerates such as General Electric (ticker: GE) and ITT (ITT) are a
growing presence in the water sector, but water is a relatively small piece
of their operations. European giants Suez (SZE) and RWE (RWE Frankfurt) have
been dominant players, but are retreating from the market. RWE, the German
electric utility, is planning to sell its American Water Works subsidiary to
the public through an initial public offering some time next year.

Among smaller companies, however, investment opportunities are rife. In the
U.S., Aqua America (WTR), the country's largest water utility, and equipment
makers Pentair (PNR) and Watts Water Technologies (WTS) look particularly
attractive. In addition to being well positioned to benefit from increased
water spending, all are viewed as potential takeover targets.

Paris-based water utility Veolia Environnement (VE) provides exposure to the
global water market, including China and Latin America, where water
shortages, huge spending on infrastructure and increasing regulations are
making water a hot business.

More direct plays on emerging markets include Companhia de Saneamento Basico
do Estado de Sao Paulo, or Sabesp (SBS), Latin America's largest water
utility, and Sinomem Technology (SINO Singapore), a small Singapore-based
membrane-technology company with a dominant share of China's pharmaceuticals
business. "In the medium to long term, some of the most desirable
opportunities will be in the international arena," says Francesca McCann of
Stanford, citing cheaper valuations and higher growth opportunities.

All six companies, profiled below, offer relatively direct plays on water,
as they garner at least 35% of their revenue from water-related products.
They sport an appealing price/earnings multiple of 15 times expected
earnings, on average, and most are growing by more than 10% a year. Fans see
at least 15% upside in each of the stocks. An impending catalyst: American
Water Works' prospective IPO.

The run-up in water shares leaves these companies little room for error,
even as investing in emerging markets presents significant economic risks.
But there is some justification for bulls to trumpet H2O as the oil of the
21st century. "The long-term story of water is as compelling as anything in
the investment world," says John Dickerson, president of Summit Global
Management, a West Coast manager specializing in water investing. "There's a
fixed supply and exploding demand."

Aqua America

The U.S. water-utility industry, composed of 55,000 separate water systems,
has been consolidated in the past decade through mergers and acquisitions,
many involving foreign water conglomerates. Today, only 11 independent,
publicly traded companies remain, half the number of 10 years ago.


Water World: The planet's awash in the stuff, yet under 1% of the world's
water supply is drinkable. Rising consumption, particularly in developing
economies, is making fresh water increasingly scarce.
Aqua America of Bryn Mawr, Pa., is the largest among the survivors,
providing water and waste-water services to 2.5 million customers in 13
states. Some industry analysts, such as Deane Dray of Goldman Sachs, think
Aqua eventually will be snapped up, as its stock-market capitalization is a
modest $3 billion. But CEO Nicholas DeBenedictis says Aqua "wants to be
independent." In fact, it has thrived as the leading acquirer in the sector,
buying more than 100 companies in the past five years.

Aqua and other utilities, including American States Water (AWR), have
benefited from a healthy rate environment.

Aqua, which is generating about $500 million in revenue, is seeing between
3% and 5% annualized rate increases. As the industry leader, the company
also is well positioned to benefit from heavy spending on water
infrastructure -- about $280 billion over the next 20 years, according to
Environmental Protection Agency projections.

Aqua trades for 23 a share. For a stock in a regulated industry, it looks
pricey at 27 times analysts' estimated 2007 profits of 84 cents a share.
Yet, the shares are cheaper than they've been in a while, trading well below
their 52-week high of 29.79.

William Brennan, manager of the Praetor Global Water Equities Fund, has been
buying the shares, and says the company should have little trouble meeting
management's long-term goals of 7% annual revenue growth, 10% earnings
growth and a 5% dividend yield. (The stock currently yields 2.03%.) If the
company stays on course, its shares could appreciate more than 20% in the
coming year -- continuing a decade-long trend of 25%-plus annual gains.

"Investors will pay up for earnings consistency, and a business model that
represents a growing customer base coupled with guaranteed rate increases,"
says Brennan.

Pentair

One of the most compelling turnaround stories in the water sector is
Pentair, a Golden Valley, Minn., maker of fluid-handling systems and
industrial products. The stock has lost 16% in the past 12 months, after
several quarters of earnings misses, and now trades for 29, or 14 times
estimated 2007 earnings of $2.12 a share. Earnings per share this year
should drop 10 cents, to $1.82.

Pentair is struggling to integrate parts of Wicor Industries, a pump and
pressure-tank maker it bought in 2004. In addition, pool-business profits
are down due to weakness in housing. The sale of water and waste-water pumps
to commercial and residential customers accounted for 74% of last year's
sales of $3 billion, while electrical and electronic enclosures chipped in
the rest.

Table: Water Companies1Pentair CEO Randall Hogan says the commercial water
segment is "booming."

Pentair is celebrating its 40th birthday this year, but some investors are
betting it won't be around to see many more, as the dominant player in the
$50 billion water-components market could attract buyers. Brennan of Praetor
Global, a shareholder, sees a deal within a year.

Pentair is boosting its share-buyback program, streamlining management and
expanding in markets such as China. "Next year. we expect to get back on
track with margin expansion even if the residential market stays weak," says
Hogan.

If so, earnings could rebound sharply and push the stock back to the
mid-30s. "They have fixable issues," says Brennan.

Watts Water Technologies

Like Pentair, Watts is benefiting from annual growth of 4% to 6% in the $87
billion U.S. water market, as increasing consumption and infrastructure
spending spur demand for its valve and flow-control products. Also like
Pentair, North Andover, Mass.-based Watts relies on acquisitions for growth.
But the similarities end there.

While Pentair is suffering indigestion from its acquisitions, Watts has
feasted on deals and doubled its business in the past five years. The
company posted a 12% increase in earnings per share last year, to $1.67, on
$924 million in revenue.

Watts showed organic growth of 8% in its most recent quarter. The company
recently reported a 32% increase in total second-quarter sales, continuing
its habit of beating analysts' quarterly projections. Earnings per share
could jump to $2.16 this year, and grow by 15% in each of the next three
years. Watts has been expanding overseas, and gets more than 30% of its
business from Europe and China.

A protracted downturn in housing could depress Watts' consumer business.
Higher copper and materials costs may also pose problems, but the company so
far has been able to pass these along to customers.

Watts trades at about 35, or 16.3 times this year's expected earnings.
Needham & Co. analyst Mark Grzymski upgraded the stock to Buy in early
August with a 38 price target, notwithstanding the "lingering possibility of
gross-margin compression due to the inflationary environment." Watts hit a
52-week high of 40.03 in May.

Veolia Environnement

Swiss investment bank Pictet & Cie. estimates Europe will need to spend $600
billion to $700 billion in the next 20 years on water investments. Many
water-industry players will benefit, including United Utilities (UU) in the
U.K., Geberit (GEBN Zurich), a Swiss plumbing and plastics-technology firm,
and Suez. But 150-year-old Veolia, the world's largest water utility, is a
more direct play than Suez, which is merging with the power utility Gaz de
France.


Jump In, the Water's Fine: Heavy spending on water systems and treatment
means big business for a host of companies across the globe -- and juicy
returns for shareholders. The six companies listed here are well-positioned,
and offer both value and growth investors compelling opportunities to play
the burgeoning market. Shares of some of them, namely Veolia and Sabesp,
already have had big gains, but fans believe they have yet to hit their
high-water marks.
Water accounts for more than 30% of Veolia's annual revenue of â,¬25
billion; the company also has energy and transportation operations. Veolia
generates more than half its business outside France, although the local
market is robust. France's per-capita use of water is second only to the
U.S.', and its $10 billion municipal water market has drawn the attention of
GE, which may buy more water assets in the country.

Veolia's shares dropped sharply this summer, after management expressed
interest in buying the Italian construction company Vinci. Analysts failed
to appreciate the logic of the deal. But the shares rebounded after the plan
was ditched, and now sell for â,¬47. The American depositary receipts trade
around 60.

If Veolia focuses on cutting costs instead of striking potentially
disruptive deals, its shares, which sell for 16 times 2007 earnings, should
remain buoyant, and profits could grow by 18% a year. "It's a great story
with high visibility," says Hans Peter Portner, a manager with the Pictet
Water Fund, who is betting his largest holding reaches 60 in three years.

Sabesp

Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva's economic policies have kept
inflation low and the real strong. Both have helped the giant water utility
known as Sabesp, which posted a 68.7% jump in net profits last year. While
the company's results have moderated this year, Sabesp still is expected to
grow annual earnings at a 10%-plus clip for several years, above the
industry's average 8.5% pace, notes Morningstar.

The water market in South America should grow 4% a year, and Sabesp is one
of the best ways to play it. The stock, which trades on the Sao Paulo
exchange, is up 73% this year in local currency, while the NYSE-listed ADRs
have gained 88%, to 31.

Sabesp is the largest water utility in the Americas and No. 3 worldwide,
serving about 26 million people in the state of Sao Paulo with water and
sewage collection. It generated sales of $2 billion last year, mostly from
concession contracts with municipalities and is 50%-owned by the state of
Sao Paulo. It has been winning tariffs, or rate increases, at a faster rate
than inflation, helping it generate stable cash flow.

Despite its shares' run-up, Sabesp trades for just eight times expected
earnings, a steep discount to U.S. water utilities -- a so-called
emerging-market discount. Investors also worry about state ownership, and
the possibility that the government could enact policies detrimental to
shareholders.

Still, they are not risking much to bet that the Brazilian government
continues to allow the utility reasonable rate increases. "This is a
conservative way to take a chance on Brazil," says John Maloney of New
York-based M&R Capital Management. "As water companies go, it's a true
growth story and very reasonable value." Maloney values the ADRs at 37, some
20% above current prices.

Sinomem Technology

Throughout Asia, dynamic economies are straining against inadequate water
infrastructure. A fourth of China's 1.3 billion population is without
adequate drinking water, says Goldman Sachs. This has prompted the
government to pledge around $125 billion for water treatment and
infrastructure in the next five years. The Asian water market is expected to
grow 13% a year, says Frost & Sullivan, while the Chinese market is
increasing by 20%.

To increase investment, China is opening its water market to the private
sector, and companies like water-treatment provider Sinomem have jumped in.
Formed in 1996, Sinomem provides membrane-based separation and purification
technologies, mostly to the pharmaceutical industry. Headquartered in
Singapore with production facilities in China, it is one of the few
pure-play treatment companies in Asia.

Sales and profits have grown steadily in recent years. Sales reached 81
million Singapore dollars ($51 million), last year, and Goldman says the
company has better margins than similar concerns. The knock on Sinomem is
that it's tiny, with a market value below $300 million. It trades on
Singapore's exchange for S$0.91, up 30% this year, but Goldman has a S$1.09
price target.

John Dickerson of Summit Global recommends that investors buy a basket of
Singapore-listed water-related stocks, including Sinomem, Hyflux (HYF
Singapore) and Bio-Treat Technology (BIOT Singapore). Hyflux is pushing into
the Indian water market, and Bio-Treat's business pipeline is good.

THE YEAR-OLD PowerShares Water Resources Portfolio (PHO), an exchange-traded
fund, is a basket of global water stocks; it's up 15% on the year.
Stock-picking may be the wiser approach these days, however, as merger
activity in the sector, which once lifted all boats, abates. The six stocks
above are a good way to get your feet wet, without getting soaked.
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Public warned water may go private
by John Campbell

The Independent

The private sector "could end up owning" public water systems in Ontario if
the provincial government adopts the "misguided recommendations" of a water
strategy expert panel, Trent Hills councillor Rosemary Kelleher-MacLennan
said last week in her last official statement as the chair of the Ontario
Municipal Water Association (OMWA).

Speaking at the association's annual meeting May 1 in Toronto, Ms.
Kelleher-MacLennan called upon Queen's Park to reject the proposals of the
panel in its report, Watertight: The Case for Change in Ontario's Water and
Wastewater Sector, "and to enshrine in legislation the fundamental principle
that the province's water systems are to remain publicly owned."

Of particular concern to the OMWA is a recommendation that counties, single
tier municipalities and regional municipalities prepare business plans on
how they will amalgamate water systems within their boundaries (and beyond)
to achieve greater cost-efficiencies. An Ontario Water Board would be
created with authority to approve the plans or demand changes.

The panel states "it should be open to municipalities to organize their
water and wastewater services as corporations," either as non-profit or
for-profit.


Corporatized utility a worry

The "corporatized utility model, where the municipality owns the
corporation, offers the greatest benefits in terms of governance,
transparency, financial sustainability and accountability."

"We see that as opening the way to dismantling public ownership," Ms.
Kelleher-MacLennan said.

Privatization, in turn, "could lead to exorbitant rates" because the company
would need to provide a return on investment for shareholders. It could also
open the door to the "export of our water," she said in an interview.

Ms. Kelleher-MacLennan told The Independent the OMWA is taking "a strong
stand" because there has been "little movement" by the government in
response to the concerns it raised after the report was released last July.

http://www.eastnorthumberland.com/index.php

Oh yeah. Sorry, I can be a little brain dead sometimes LOL

Good hobbies? No comprende, amigo

WATER TORTURE:
Privatisation leaves us high and dry
- from www.schnews.org.uk

Corporations have to splash out billions every year to persuade us to
buy unneeded crap. But no such problems exist when they have a grip
on more essential, life-sustaining, natural resources, like water.
You don't need to fork out millions for flashy PR men and mount big
dollar advertising splashes to flog H2O. Who has to persuade us to
use water? They've got us over a barrel on that one.

Privatisation was supposed to bring competition, but if a water
company decides to rip you off for the water you use and can't be
bothered to repair cracked pipes, alternatives are in short supply.
Worse still, the water corporations' focus on profits at all cost
makes them unable and unwilling to do anything to meet the current
water shortages, as money that could have gone into maintenance leaks
away into shareholders' pockets.

Here in the UK the government spent most of the last 150 years (and
loads of taxpayer cash) buying up the water companies, convinced that
private corporations are not the best organisations to deliver such
an essential service. All that changed in 1989 when the Thatcher
government flogged off the lot under the 1988 Water Act. And in case
no one was interested in picking up a monopoly or two, the firesale
came with some additional incentives; £5 billion worth of debts owed
by the water authorities would be written off and a £1.6 billion
subsidy would be given up front. Monopoly, debt write-off and a cash
incentive still not enough for you? Well, how about having the
companies at a bargain basement 22% discount too?!

Unsurprisingly pre-tax profits of the 10 water companies then rose by
almost 150% in the first 9 years of privatisation. OFWAT, the
sector's regulatory body, identified three main components of
customers' bills: operating costs, capital charges (for investment
and renewals), and operating profits. Over the period since
privatisation, operating expenditure as a proportion of bills has
shrunk; the capital charges have risen; but operating profits, which
have more than doubled, account for virtually the entire increase in
customers' bills. And the tide shows no signs of turning.

In the week when Thames Water announced that there would be a
hosepipe ban in London, the company's shareholders also enjoyed a 10%
profit. No "cash drought" on the horizon then? Although it's raining
cash for investors it's more like a golden-shower for the less
fortunate customers. Not only has OFWAT agreed to further massive
price hikes, but Thames Water also manages to lose over a third of
the water through the antiquated Victorian pipe system that they just
can't seem to afford to fix (pissing away 1 billion litres a year,
enough to fully supply Birmingham). The company had agreed an
investment plan with the regulator, but then curiously spent £350
million less on it than planned, the equivalent of 10% off every
customer's bill. So where did that 10% end up? Drained away down the
profit plug hole perhaps?

Thames Water, whose 8 million customers will be affected by the ban,
says two unusually dry winters have caused "serious" water shortages.
Had the water companies invested in infrastructure maybe they
wouldn't be losing a third of our water. In the current climate of
"eco-awareness", the UK fails miserably in terms of utilising our
rainwater. Only a desultory 5% finds its way into our water supply.
Our suppliers whinge and moan about shortcomings in the weather, but
can't be bothered to dip into their piggy banks to bale us out -
maybe saving it all for a rainy day.

Thames Water did, however, last year feel flush enough to throw a
£2.2 million pay-packet at their top four directors. All in, the
German owned company's liquid profits came in at a cool £385.5
million. Londoners must have experienced that sinking feeling, as
they suffered a 21% increase in their water bills. WATER PALAVER

And how likely is it that things will improve now that things are
hotting up for all of us climate-wise? Being able to plant your
vegetables out a month earlier than usual is not the only symptom of
global warming and climate change; the country's water supply is
evaporating at such a rate that hosepipe bans, showering instead of
jumping in the bath and putting a brick in your cistern may not be
enough to prevent us from getting a lot thirstier yet. With more cars
on the road and planes in the sky carbon dioxide emissions will only
keep on rising. But don't worry - the free market will save us.

The idiocy of water privatisation has become a global pandemic (would
that be Evian Flu perhaps?) Africans have long been without a proper
water supply, but private companies (who picked up local water
companies at bargain basement prices during a spate of privatisation
in the 1990s) have still been flooding customers with higher bills.
According to a report by the University of Witwatersrand, 22,000
people in Johannesburg are disconnected from water supplies each
month because they can't afford to pay steeply rising water bills.
The problem affects the whole country - in a population of 44
million, 10 million South Africans have had their supplies cut. The
result? 43,000 deaths from diarrhea last year, and an outbreak of
cholera affecting 135,000.

"I would say they are criminals" says Pascal Kerneis from the
influential lobby organisation European Services Forum. No, not the
water companies, obviously! He reckons campaigners against water
privatisation are just plain stupid not to think that water is best
delivered by corporations. Pascal and his cronies lead the drive to
include water in the 5th chapter of the General Agreement on Trade
and Services (GATS). The European Union has also been pushing hard to
include water at recent WTO talks, which are host to the negotiations
for a range of GATS agreements aiming to carve up the planet for the
general consumption of profit-hungry multinationals. Sustained
pressure from a range of activist and citizens' groups has recently
succeeded in getting the WTO to drop the water proposal from the
current GATS discussions, but it's surely only a matter of time
before the constant drip, drip of corporate lobbying erodes common
sense.

The GATS agreement would have been another way in for the
corporations - who can currently only hope to persuade unwilling
governments to flog off their public infrastructures through the
'conditions' which are attached to any International Monetary Fund or
World Bank loans. Whilst this recent victory has made it harder for
the corporations, many people in the hottest parts of the planet
still can't afford to pay their bill. This week, The Fourth World
Water Forum takes place in Mexico City, and will look at how anti-
privatisation activities are breaking the corporate grip on our water
supplies. Find out more at www.comda.org.mx or get to grips with GATS
by visiting www.corporateeurope.org/water/gatswater2006.pdf - and pay
a visit to the Public Services International Research Unit's briefing
papers on water privatisation across the globe, including the UK at
www.psiru.org

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22264319

High River Gold to begin building Taparko-Bouroum plant


2006-02-15 10:43 ET - News Release

Mr. Don Whalen reports

HIGH RIVER GOLD PROVIDES UPDATE ON ITS TAPARKO-BOUROUM DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN BURKINA FASO

High River Gold Mines Ltd. has released an update with respect to its Taparko-Bouroum development project in Burkina Faso.

Construction contract awarded to Senet

High River has entered into a contract with Senet CC, based in South Africa, to undertake the construction of the process plant and associated infrastructure. Senet is a highly reputable engineering and project management firm with extensive experience in Africa within the mining industry. Senet is scheduled to commence construction activities this month.

The company previously engaged MDM Ferroman Pty. Ltd. to complete the basic engineering work and purchase of long lead items and equipment through a soft start contract. This work was completed in December. The switch from MDM to Senet has had no material consequences for the project, but has resulted in some delays and cost increases associated with the revised development plan. Although there may be certain litigation issues with MDM, they are not expected to be of a material nature.

According to the Senet contract, construction of the process plant is scheduled to be completed by the end of 2006, with commissioning ramping up in the first few months of 2007.

Update on capital expenditures

With costs continuing to rise globally, High River has revised its capital expenditures for the project to $70.6-million (U.S.). The increase in capital expenditures is the result of a number of factors including: higher cost for construction materials, and higher freight charges and fuel prices; additional charges related to the decision of contracting with Senet; higher cost associated with the power plant; strengthening of the rand versus the United States dollar for South African-sourced material; and general and administrative charges relating to a longer construction period.

The company has also modified its construction and procurement schedule and is planning to install the hard-rock crushing circuit during the first four months of production. Mining activities will start in May, 2006, to provide soft ore stockpiles when the plant starts operating.

To the end of January, 2006, approximately $29.6-million (U.S.) has been spent on the project, of which $6.4-million (U.S.) was provided by Royal Gold Inc. as part of the $35-million (U.S.) financing for the project. Following the signing of the contract with Senet, an additional drawdown of $3-million (U.S.) was received from RGI. High River has also arranged for a $5-million (U.S.) equipment financing with Caterpillar Inc. ("CAT") for the construction of the heavy fuel oil power plant.

Internal rate of return

The higher gold price environment is positively impacting the economics of the Taparko-Bouroum project, outweighing the additional capital costs. With the revised capital expenditures and mineral reserves of 827,000 ounces of gold (estimated at a gold price of $400 (U.S.) per ounce), the after-tax internal rate of return for the project from first project expenditure based on various gold price assumptions is estimated as follows:


$450/oz $500/oz $550/oz
Internal
rate of
return 20% 27% 34%


Significant potential to add to the mineral reserves

The mineral reserves are sensitive to a higher gold price. The company anticipates optimizing its mining reserves and resources on the project using a higher gold price in the second half of 2006. It is envisaged that additional ounces will be added to the reserves resulting in further enhancing the economics of the project. During the second year of production, High River plans to expand the mill capacity to 1.5 million tonnes per year and to produce approximately 140,000 ounces of gold annually. The company is confident in being able to extend the current mine life beyond eight years and maintain this production level. This can be achieved through: (1) expansion of planned pits at depth and along strike; (2) delineation drilling of a number of potential satellite deposits that have been identified on the Taparko exploitation licence; (3) exploration for additional sources of ore within trucking distance of the mill on exploration licences controlled by High River and its partner, Goldrush Resources Ltd., where High River has back-in rights and a 19.9-per-cent equity interest; and (4) new acquisitions.

Update on construction activities

The company continues to make good progress on the construction of the project. The permanent camp is near completion with only the potable water and sewage systems to install. Earthwork for the plant facilities is complete with excavation and blinding for CIL tanks and tower crane foundation completed. Excavation for the mill and soft-rock crusher is in progress. Rising of the tailings dam is in progress and is expected to be completed within two months. The liner material for the tailings facilities is on site.

Prestripping activities at two of the three Taparko pits are also well under way with over 900,000 tonnes of waste removed. At the 3/5 pit, only one bench of waste remains to expose ore.

Construction of the service road for the Yalogo pipeline is in progress. The pipeline material and pumps are on site and will be installed before May. The company plans to pump overflow water to the project site water containment area from the Yalogo dam, located nine kilometres from the project, during the rainy season (May to September).

The power generation plant, contracted to CAT, is expected to be commissioned in September.

We seek Safe Harbor.

http://www.stockwatch.com/swnet/newsit/newsit_newsit.aspx?bid=B-525242-C:HRG&symbol=HRG&news...

"Peak Water?"

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2006/02/peak-water.html

Worth reposting here I should think -- http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9735489

New research report on KGI -- http://members.shaw.ca/dsk.consulting/jan2006.pdf

amarks -- FYI & FWIW

http://www.stockhouse.com/bullboards/viewmessage.asp?no=11134079&t=0&all=0&TableID=0

I've always appreciated your efforts on the boards even if I've never said so.

Are you going to stick with YRI or are you looking at potential substitutes?

Question for amarks -- http://www.stockhouse.com/bullboards/viewmessage.asp?no=11111433&t=0&all=0&TableID=0

"Blue gold" --

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=8882437

I think those moly findings were a serendipitous "accident", as GRS considers themselves a gold explorer. They had some uranium interests at one point but they spun those off to shareholders last summer.

Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction.

I would never have noticed their moly PR either, but I'm heavy into the Kirkland Lake gold play and try to follow what everybody up there reports

Whatever you say Eric -- I know that forms of mag and other aerial surveying are legitimate prospecting tools, but I generally don't believe in magic boxes for mining, phatheads at the controls notwithstanding. I especially don't believe in magic boxes when they're wrapped up inside sub-penny OTCBB shells, and I become excruciatingly skeptical about issues that coincidentally have hyperactive message boards.

From one crusty old skeptic to another -- of course mag technology is improving (along with nearly every other exploration technique), so I am not surprised to hear you sing its praises. Sounds good that Noranda, Teck, Newmont, etc. are moving along with it, and I would expect nothing less. But I have a real hard time believing that some two-bit (excuse me, sub-penny) BB outfit has anything unique in the biz, or that their toy does jack-chit of anything in terms of finding ore bodies, unless we're talking about the airborne detection of deposits of cash hidden within investor's wallets.

Is that too harsh? No matter, I'm sure EKWX can survive and possibly even prosper without me buying their shares

tackler, I think you're being too harsh on the ol' EKWX.

That do you expect from a company that trades OTCBB at 1/10th of a cent? Surely not a bona fide business plan, or real technology -- that would bear far too much close examination. You'll have to be satisfied with the magic box stories and the bad smoke and mirror stuff, because I think that's all you're going get

Start a Yahoo club -- you can set them up as invite only -- they've been like that since pre-Y2K -- and it's free

Things don't seem to be going too well there by the look of the chart -- do you know anything about it that we can't read on SEDAR?

Another good hole released earlier this week on the heels of the recent sweetheart financing --

Kirkland Lake Gold Inc.: Wedged Hole Intersects 1.43 Ounces of Gold over 124.5 feet 'uncut' and Confirms New North-South Discovery

Monday August 15, 2:31 am ET

KIRKLAND LAKE, ONTARIO--(CCNMatthews - Aug. 15, 2005) - Kirkland Lake Gold Inc. (the "Company") (TSX:KGI - News; AIM:KGI) is pleased to present an update on one of the programs in its three-year $21 million exploration campaign. The goal of this campaign is to explore for a combined potential of 15 million tons of ore on the Main Break, Parallel Breaks and North South structures, such as the Lower D Zone, on the Company's land holdings.

In a news release dated July11th an intersection of 90.4 feet assaying 2.3 ounces uncut from Drill Hole 50-627 was reported. Subsequently, a wedged hole was cut from that hole and has returned 1.43 ounces of gold per ton over 124.5 feet of core length (uncut- or 0.84 cut). The wedged hole has intersected the new discovery 49 feet vertically above and 140 feet up-dip from the discovery hole, Hole 50-627. These intersections are located 1,600 feet south of the active mine workings at the Company's #3 shaft.

Highlights of the current results from Wedge Hole 50-627W1 include:

- The apparent true width of the zone at the wedged drill hole is estimated to be between 34 and 35 feet (see figure #2).

- The mineralization intersected in the wedged hole is identical to the discovery hole though considerable more visible gold and tellurides were observed in the wedged hole of discovery hole

- The zone has an apparent dip ranging from 28 to 36 degrees (see figure #2). The azimuth is still unknown but estimated to be between 000 and 036 degrees.

-This new discovery appears to be a separate zone from the previously-reported LK Zone located 400' to the east (26.21 ounces of gold per ton over 6.0 feet uncut)

- Follow-up to this wedged hole will be three holes to be drilled to the south-west and one to the northeast. The first hole has started and is intended to intersect the zone 200 feet to the southwest in order to verify strike geometry.

"The discovery of wide, high-grade mineralization to the south of the 24-million ounce Main Break is adding significant confidence to our ability to substantially increase resources and reserves," said Company Chairman Harry Dobson. " The nine new zones discovered to date to the south of the Main Break workings are testimony to the potential out there and we will endeavour to turn that potential into high grade gold production. The Company's policy of trying to catch up on the historic exploration-drilling deficit is starting to pay off. " (The diagrams referred to in this release may be viewed at the Companies website, www.klgold.com).

Figure #1 is a plan view showing the two most likely orientations of the new discovery relative to other new ore-bearing structures to the south of the mine- including the Lower D, and the LK Zones (see figure #1)

Figure #2 is the detailed section through A-A' (as shown on the plan view) of 50-627 and 50-627W1 giving the apparent true width, apparent dip, and showing the assay distribution throughout the zone (see figure #2)

The angle that the mineralization cuts through the core averages 29 degrees in hole 50-627 and 35 degrees in hole 50-627W1. The grades are highest at the start and end of the two intersections, and are quite consistent through the rest of the intervals (see figure #2). Recently completed drill hole 47-1106 was extended in an attempt to intersect the new zone. This drill hole intersected an extensive trachyte flow 100 feet above and 300 feet up-dip from the projected mineralization and failed to intersect similar mineralization. Using the 000 orientation, the new discovery and the LK zone would line up with wide-spread alteration and mineralization, located 1300' down-dip, in drill hole 45-254, drilled by Lac Minerals in 1991 (mineralized from 2212' to 2613' down-hole -see figure #1).

To date, nine mineralized structures, including at least five North-South structures, have been discovered south of the active mine workings at Macassa. These may extend 5,000 feet or more; to date, the Lower D has ore-grade intersections for 2,700 feet horizontally. Historically, ore-bearing structures in Kirkland Lake are laterally very extensive (1,000 feet to 20,000 feet). Ore-grade shoots along these structures generally are also extensive (1,000 to 8,000 feet). An example of the extent of potential mineralization is the Teck-Hughes Mine, where 3,700,000 ounces of gold were mined from the Main Break over a strike length of only 1,400 feet (located on a single mineral claim).

http://www.klgold.com/news_releases/Aug_15_2005.pdf
http://www.klgold.com/news_releases/Aug_15_2005fig1.pdf
http://www.klgold.com/news_releases/Aug_15_2005fig2.pdf

Rumsfeld Warns Nicaragua on Anti-Aircraft Missiles

Mon Mar 21, 6:12 PM ET World - Reuters

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (Reuters) - Nicaragua's government must destroy more than 1,000 shoulder-fired, anti-aircraft missiles or face the loss of $2.1 million in frozen U.S. military aid, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on Monday.

"It's a danger, it's a threat. Terrorists who are anxious to kill people -- for them, it's an attractive weapon," he said upon arriving in Argentina's capital at the start of a Latin American tour.

The comments to reporters traveling with Rumsfeld on a trip that will also carry him to Brazil and Guatemala came days after Washington froze aid for training and buying military equipment because Nicaragua has not followed through on a promise to destroy SA-7 and other missiles, which the United States fears might be sold to terrorists.

Rumsfeld said he was sure Nicaragua's President Enrique Bolanos and his defense minister intended to fulfill the pledge to destroy the missiles and would work through what he called "impediments" to progress.

Bolanos promised Rumsfeld during a visit to Managua in November that his country would disable about a thousand portable SA-7 and other anti-aircraft missiles, which Washington worries could be used against commercial airliners.

Bolanos told reporters then that the missiles, left over from the former Marxist Sandinista regime two decades ago, would be destroyed within 18 months and that Managua wanted no U.S. financial compensation for doing so.

But U.S. defense officials traveling with Rumsfeld on Monday said they had seen no progress on destroying the remainder of about 2,000 missiles provided by Cuba and the Soviet Union to the Sandinistas in the 1980s.

"The issue here is civilian aviation. It's controlling manpads (shoulder-fired missiles) worldwide," said one senior U.S. official traveling with Rumsfeld.

HUNDREDS NOT COUNTED

The now-democratic Nicaraguan government destroyed about a thousand missiles last year, but Pentagon (news - web sites) officials charged that Sandinista factions in the new government, led by former Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega, are erecting political roadblocks against eliminating the remaining weapons.

Some of the missiles include more powerful SA-16 and SA-18 weapons capable of downing a civilian airliner at higher altitudes. Several hundred more are not under military or government control, and U.S. officials say there has been virtually no effort to count them and bring them into the government inventory.

U.S. and Nicaraguan officials in January arrested two Nicaraguan men who tried to sell at least one SA-7 on the black market.

"The courts are completely in the hands of the Sandinistas," complained one U.S. defense official.

"Last week, they cut the sentences of the two guys who wanted to sell the missiles to six months in jail."

On Tuesday, Rumsfeld will meet Argentine Defense Minister Jose Pampuro to discuss this South American country's military role in the U.N. peacekeeping mission in Haiti and enhancing technology cooperation between Washington and Buenos Aires.

Rumsfeld also suggested that he would raise the issue of increased joint support for an Organization of American States' resolution to more tightly control portable anti-aircraft missiles.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=721&e=3&u=/nm/20050321/wl_n...

Rudolf Rassendyll? That would be me

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=19939556

I know not what His Greenness is doing these days, other than the public stuff - http://biz.yahoo.com/n/z/z0003.html

What an interesting notion that he would cut off their allowance and make them get a haircut. I may learn to have some respect for the old fart after all if he succeeds on that front.

August 14 is indeed the "sword of Damocles" of record over the markets at the moment. Not many CEOs will want to spend the next 10 years being somebody's prison bitch. Maybe Chambers ROFLMAO

They're holding 'em up pretty good more or less out on the Island here after hours, my vote is swinging toward Black Monday instead of Friday

Hey Louis, whazzzzup? I really like the Wilshire, it's my coal mine canary that filters out the effects of rotations in determining genuine market direction. Any doubts I was forming seem to have been cleared up this afternoon, though.

What's your take on that little downdraft? AJC not able to meet her margin call?

Wilshire 5000 going to do the same thing. If that isn't the definition of broad-based across-the-board selling of all things equity, I don't know what is. Gotta be the funds meeting redemptions, I think longs be in trouble plenty

Two more weeks and the Naz will be at 0, we won't need this board for long

Classic interface doesn't work but the new one does? Does this mean SI figured out how we were dodging their pop-up ads?