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Yawn, scratch, fart! Oh My!
Silence has it’s price as well my friend and as I said TC will prosper based on his relationship with LL not with shareholders…
That is most certainly not me trying to manipulate the price down. As I stated in my response to Nerds post I agreed with his hypothesis of the possibility and gave it only a 30-40% chance of happening which is why I’m still here. But it is a possibility due to the unexplained silence for the past 4 years from this company and why we are still guessing and collecting nothing more than crumbs 20 years into the evolution of a publicly traded company.
Anyone that is 100% pro or con with their assessment of the final outcome of this investment is only fooling themselves and it’s too damn bad if some of us are more honest with the actual probabilities than others. TC and former management BB/BV could just as easily have been paid off to maintain their silence of an pre-arranged sale as they would for a favorable outcome because the Benjamin’s just don’t give a s**t and history has shown that management could care less about shareholders.
Sorry for the harsh reality and as I said I’m still holding the bag with over a million shares but scared as hell that not a single one of us can guarantee the outcome of our investment because it’s going to be a super big payout or an “I Told You So” bitter reality and we all deserve better than the worst case scenario IMHO.
Oh My!
This is absolutely a possibility and also the worst case scenario for all shareholders. Unfortunately I still have to give it a 40% chance of occurring and only because the shareholders have always been the last consideration of management. The only justification for not relaying this sooner would be to maintain the share price at around a dime where it’s been for the last two years while they negotiate the terms of a potential closure and sale of any assets including mutually shared IP.
Plus I really don’t trust TC (does anyone) to look after our best interests and believe his best interests will be served ahead of ours. Once again I honestly hope this is not how it plays out as it goes against my best intentions, thoughts and dreams for the future of Liquidmetal and all of its shareholders. GLTAL
I didn’t realize BB had passed, May he Rest In Peace!
Thanks for sharing.
This looks like the type of thing Rick Salas would have produced year’s ago a great promotional piece except most of it is…let’s just say less than truthful
Seems like numerous peeps have been doing their utmost to keep the speculation going and the share price from tanking any further until the final reveal when all is out in the open and nothing can be further questioned, criticized or subject to conspiracy theories.
Until then as the negative nellies like to remind us daily we are trading at 10 cents and existing on hopes and dreams that one day the rising tide of BMG’s will truly lift all boats.
As always we are on a constant lookout for Moby Dick!
To quote Herman Melville; “But vain to popularize profundities, and all truth is profound.”
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Only for the negative nellies! TWT&GLTALongs
Highly unlikely the share price would “tank” if it was released that Foxconn, Ford, Tesla or Apple were the buyers/benefactors of this proposed divestiture, actually the exact opposite would happen making us all wealthy(er), happy(er) and in need for something else to consume our limited time with. I look forward to that day! TWT&GLTALongs
Kind of CRAY-CRAY don’t you think that we are relying on a second rate CEO and his well documented history of personal greed to make this company a success? I mean just frickin shoot me and get it over with.
Good effing thing I DREAM BIG and happen to believe in MIRACLES as we all should.
Liquidmetal is not an investment for the weak of mind or heart it’s an investment for DREAM WEAVERS and those that believe in effing miracles and you can take that to the bank. TWT&GLTALongs
Ho Hum! So glad that I strive to see the glass half full every day and always on the outlook for MIRACLES because everyone needs one from time to time and some more than others. Because the alternative is downright depressing and besides why would anyone choose to live their life that way?
Liquidmetal is not an investment for disbelievers or the faint of heart it’s an investment for BELIEVERS. TWTGLTALongs
Yes indeed more “RAW BEEF”. Steak tar tar sells at a premium and our day is coming just wish I knew how soon because if I had that ability I most certainly would not be round these parts anymore partner! So in the meantime I’m waiting on a MIRACLE along with everyone else. TWT&GLTALongs
This is the scenario I am cozying up to posted by our dear friend Josh on Reddit; definitely within the realm of possibility and would serve the creative and thirsty nature of TC quite well IMHO.
“10 millions (cash is king just look at LQMT balance sheet) shares buyback offer at 50c will flush all the shorts and satisfy some long term traders. Net result will increase company value 5 fold. Simple ROSY forward looking statement along with stock price surge in next quarter will secure TC 90 days employment tryout and earn him 2.5 millions shares option at 7c…”
“…With limited amount of true float, nobody will let it go (with all the whale whisper) without a super premium. Hence 50 cents ceiling. PPS increase from 10 cents to 50 cents will increase market cap 5x. Yes, 2% less outstanding will decrease that slightly. This is how Tim Cook made out like a bandit when he exercised his "preplanned" options (before buyback announcement)”
This could be the MIRACLE we have been waiting for. I have always thought the watch application would come before the phone frame if so we will know soon enough because we all need a miracle each and every day and this would qualify right. TWT&GLTALongs
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidphelan/2021/08/07/apple-watch-series-7-leak-hints-at-stunning-news-apple-watch-pro-apple-watch-se-2/
I need a woman about twice my height
Statuesque, raven-dressed, a goddess of the night
Her secret incantations, a candle burning blue
We'll consult the spirits maybe they'll know what to do
And it's real and it won't go away, oh no
I can't get around and I can't run away
I need a miracle every day
A wise woman approaching her 100th birthday once told me “ gettin old ain’t for sissies”…and neither is being a longtime investor in LQMT. Let’s hope our PATIENCE pays off this time.
NO WISDOM HERE, just someone that is in desperate need of a miracle. Lqmt is not an investment for the faint of heart it’s an investment for BELIEVERS. TWT&GLTALongs
[Chorus]
And it's real and it won't go away, oh no
I can't get around and I can't run away
I need a miracle every day
Lqmt is an investment for BELIEVERS and not for the faint of heart. I believe in MIRACLES where you from you sexy thing? TWT&GLTALongs
A sinking ship doesn’t need a rudder it needs a MIRACLE every day. TWT&GLTALongs
I need a woman about twice my weight
A ton of fun who packs a gun with all her freight
Find her in a sideshow leave her in LA
Ride her like a surfer riding on a tidal wave
[Chorus]
And it's real and it won't go away, oh no
I can't get around and I can't run away
I need a miracle every day
Lqmt is an investment for BELIEVERS in MIRACLES!
I need a woman about twice my height
Statuesque, raven-dressed, a goddess of the night
Her secret incantations, a candle burning blue
We'll consult the spirits maybe they'll know what to do
[Chorus]
And it's real and it won't go away, oh no
I can't get around and I can't run away
I need a miracle every day
TWT&GLTALongs
I’m with you Tomcat; ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
I need a woman about twice my age
A lady of nobility, gentility and rage
Splendor in the dark, lightning on the draw
We'll go right through the book and break each and every law
(Chorus)
I got a feeling and it won't go away, oh no
Just one thing then I'll be okay
I need a miracle every day
After all doesn’t everyone need a miracle every day? Lqmt is an investment for BELIEVERS!
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Thanks for making my point; they have nothing of value to report and yet all of the hype coming from many would seem to indicate otherwise so which is it? So many are touting what is happening with Eontec, Yihao, Maze…in China with a matter of fact implication that we are in that same boat… while our boat has been getting bailed out year after year and still ZERO meaningful contracts or revenue. I know I know it’s right around the corner, the train has left the station, the whales are already on the hook, follow the DD…yada, yada, yada.
I have been an optimist on this technology for more years than I can count but that is very different from being an optimist on LQMTUSA which I couldn’t separate until recently. We are all waiting for them to have something worth saying and many are more than skeptical about hearing what is coming our way without any confirmation from the only people that matter. Good news for the technology and the maze does not immediately transfer to us and if it did we would have already heard about it right? TWT&GLTALongs
I think you and CD need to re read my post as I was not comparing Visser to Eon rather Visser to Eutectix and my mandarin sign off translates to my being ok with all of our eggs being in the Eon basket. What I’m not ok with is the continued silence especially with a new CEO and it’s not due to NDA’s it is irresponsible management with little to no regard to their shareholders but that’s nothing new.
China will dictate our future both in terms of royalties and when or if we are ever to return to Nasdaq. This investment has more than its fair share of uncertainties and only time will tell whether LQMTUSA will thrive or continue to wither on the vine and into oblivion. I’m betting on the former and have been doing so for better or worse for the past 20 years and can only blame myself for getting sucked in too early with the development of this technology.
Anyone that says our future is guaranteed is fooling themselves and others. The future for BMG’s may well be bright ours however is currently reflected by the share price which is anything other than optimistic or bright. TWT&GLTALongs
If nothing else Eutectix is a step up from our previous CM Visser Precision Mfg. and yet I distinctly remember at the time many thought they would be our savior and would finally be the solution to all of our problems, what a joke that turned out to be but they did help keep the lights on for another couple of years.
Hate to say it folks but Eutectix is no different and won’t get us to NASDQ in the time frame many are projecting.
They may well be a piece to the puzzle but like Visser they are no where near being the solution. All of our eggs are in one basket and that basket is in China… Wo duì ci méiyou wèntí
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…that’s the most lucid and well organized opinion of where LQMT currently is that I have ever heard from you, so what ever it is that you are smoking, drinking, ingesting….keep it up. I do admire your persistence but especially appreciate it when it’s well organized and thoughtful. TWT&GLTALongs
Can anyone confirm the status of BB is he still employed by LQMTUSA or is he gone? Once again we are left in the dark, he must have had an NDA (convenient answer) re his employment contract lol. Some here and elsewhere are suggesting that by LL appointing TC as the new (interim) CEO is evidence of his commitment to the future and that big things are right around the corner otherwise why would he go from a CEO with no salary to one with $250k+.
That makes sense if BB is still around drawing his six figure salary but if he isn’t then this was actually another cost cutting measure because TC’s salary is substantially less than BB’s. I’m all for cutting dead weight and being as lean as possible as we have seen LL bring the overhead to a bare minimum and strengthen our burn rate but this doesn’t guarantee that anything is imminent in terms of revenues for LQMTUSA and actually may be simply positioning us for more patience and a longer wait.
This is a saga and continuing drama that apparently has unlimited seasons and I for one am looking forward to the final episode one way or another. TWT&GLTALongs
…exactly maybe that accounts for the super low volume today. Let’s all wait and see what the 2nd quarter revenues tell us shall we. Any guesses? I will start the bidding at $75K with the grand prize for closest guess being a free entry to the upcoming trade show in Anaheim. TWT&GLTALongs
MAKE IT SO! TWT&GLTALongs
Either that or he is brilliant enough to realize that the fate of his investment in BMG is not dependent on Liquidmetal USA but actually much closer to home with the maze he has been constructing to bring this technology forward. That to me is the only conceivable explanation for his hands off management and naïveté in leaving it in the hands of unproven people and why I’m not that surprised (only disappointed) that TC was anointed as the CEO interim or not. TWT&GLTALongs
I have it from a reliable source that no one puts in even a 20 hour week at LQMTUSA cuz there ain’t nothing going on. Hopefully that changes soon, not sure how much lower the results can sink in spite of many of our high expectations. 2nd quarter results will be nothing new I’m guessing around $250k in revenue if that.
This seems to be the only marketing they are capable of after all its hard work setting up a booth lol
https://liquidmetal.com/liquidmetal-mdm-west-2021/
Can’t believed this was allowed over there, some of the responses are…priceless!
https://www.reddit.com/r/LQMT/comments/oqlcxw/whats_interesting_with_this_company_why_should/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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ROYALTIES who needs stinking royalties? We have been living on hopes and dreams for the entire existence of this company isn’t that enough for you? TWT&GLTALongs
…why would a whale choose to deal with the hapless LQMTUSA operation when they could work directly with the source in China? Again, we are currently and for the foreseeable future nothing more than a US PO Box hoping one day to collect some crumbs from our Chinese partners.
To date NO ONE not even Josh has proven what and if any royalties may one day come our way and what they would be, the common refrain seems to be that they will be negotiated with that Whale and the CM when the time is right, who exactly is representing our best interests as investors in LQMTUSA other than TC? God help us! Until these questions are answered this stock will continue to hang in the 10 cent range and of course if this elusive whale contract comes our way we will get the truth versus pure speculation and hype. TWT&GLTALongs
IF ONLY PIGS COULD FLY, we would be competing with Musk, Bezos and Branson instead we are on the perpetual tilt-a-wheel at county fair. TWT&GLTALongs
…”use our cache”…ROTFLMAO just what exactly is our cache here in the USA, though I was grateful to see LL defend the Lqmt trademark from the Kang Gang misappropriation. If this was the correct Liquid Metal my guess is that the sender would have gotten the usual middle finger tactile response from management at LQMT.
Maybe that will change with TC at the helm after all he has his usual motivation to pump and dump let’s hope he defies many of our low expectations.
To answer the question of what would happen If he were to sell at .20…how about fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me? If it continues to rise before 1st quarter results and they end up being a nothing burger without any other announcements/contracts well you know which way it’s going from there. De ja vu all over again. But hey this time it’s different right. UP UP AND AWAY!
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You got that right, one would just need to choose the right time to get out. Hell I might even hold till $50-60 if I had the cohones, one thing for certain is there would be a whole lot of new investors following the ones getting out between now and then. Most of us long-termers would be bailing at $3-5, what a pissa! lol TWT&GLTALongs
Crazy days in deed and not just here the recent volatility in the market with lots of dollars floating around in search of the next GME, AMC, SPCE, DOGE…promising vast riches beyond our imagination and absent of any fundamentals, this is the new normal. We could most certainly continue to rise well beyond our paltry 52 week high of .17 regardless of contracts or form 4’s and at this point in time after nearly 20 years in this investment I will gratefully take it and run.
Looking for any rational explanation in an irrational marketplace only leads to insomnia and anxiety so for better or worse it has turned into a battle of shorts v longs, ihub v stockwits when all any of us really want is to see is the Benjamin’s. I am fully embracing the lord of stock memes, let’s pump this thing up! TWT&GLTALongs
So you have looked into the soul of the man have you? I have it from someone that has worked with him closely here in the US and China that his ego is as big as a house which explains a lot when it comes to the mothballed over planned and under utilized home office build out. He also has a path to enormous wealth in China and LQMTUSA would simply be icing on the cake.
I did have the chance to speak with him briefly at the open house in 2017 and I would have to say my initial impression was a man of integrity and honesty so I hear what you are saying and expect the reality to be somewhere in between the two scenarios.
All we have is hope and wide eyed speculation until ROYALTIES show up so let’s stay laser focused on getting an answer to this simple question that IS NOT defined in the PLA as much as some want to think it is spelled out it is only assumed and we all know what happens when we ass-u-me. TWT&GLTALongs
IF YOU SAY SO….it must be true. TWT&GLTALongs
I rarely if ever agree with you but this time I think I have to especially with all of the stock meme hyperbole going on over at stockwits and Reddit. I have always been weary of the attacks over here but the other sites are equally intolerant of any questioning or doubting of their LQMT speculation and attempts to get the fire started.
I know they will say this time is different and hopefully that is true or else it could be as Yogi Berra liked to quip “De Ja Vu all over again.” TWT&GLTALongs
…and I definitely don’t trust TC
Not likely 50 to one RS but I could see it somewhere between 5-1 and 10-1 and that’s ok if it sets a base of $1-2 share price then we work our way up toward the criteria necessary to get relisted on Nasdaq. This scenario has met lots of resistance over the years but it’s beginning to appear as the most realistic for a company dependent on royalties that currently has a diluted share count of 500k to a billion shares depending on how you count.
Many here and elsewhere have been envisioning riches beyond belief as the reward for all of our patience when a more reality based scenario that doesn’t necessarily include private yachts or even early retirement is the likely outcome. The boards on Reddit and stockwits are filled with pie in the sky expectations and blatant attempts to drum up interest and awareness of LQMT much the same way GameStop type Meme stocks and the Cryptos have created hyper interest and speculation. There are plenty of snowflake attitudes toward any criticism or different opinions of where we are headed and how we will get there and that’s disheartening but also a byproduct of the internet age of anonymity.
IMHO the reality will be much different and has helped me tamp down my expectations for this investment and that’s ok because I will be relieved as I believe many of us will when something of value and transparency takes root and this investment is grounded in reality and stability for the first time in its existence. TWT&GLTALongs
That would actually be a positive compared to TC and would indicate a future revenue stream to LQMTUSA that needed to be managed properly. I really don’t see how anyone can paint a positive picture for the future with TC at the reigns.
The employment contract alluding to options, Nasdaq and $1.00 a share is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. This is another baby sitting job with a gravy salary for doing next to nothing trouble is the baby is on life support and the sitter is out playing golf. TWT&GLTALongs
Yes that makes sense, but what doesn’t make sense is a CLEAR statement/agreement/contract about how royalties will be filtered to LQMTUSA, what our percentage is when sold into our territories etc. all we have seen to date is conjecture from third parties.
This is not a coveted trade secret nor something that is hidden due to an NDA it should be black and white so that all current and future investors in LQMT can see a CLEAR PATH to profitability instead of one filled with maybes, hope and speculation. If it’s left to the EON BOD can anyone honestly say that our best interests will be served? TWT&GLTALongs
Absolutely true and LL’s investment into LQMTUSA is chicken feed compared to his Chinese investment and current/ future returns. Not sure his motivation to see LQMTUSA succeed is as steadfast as many assume or would like to insist is a certainty.
He will do just fine if we are shuddered and yes it will be icing on the cake if we can actually see some form of revenue related to sales in our territory. Unfortunately I am beginning to think that his true loyalties lie with Eon and his other investments back home with nothing to prove otherwise.
“And if any shareholder thinks that's not the case, and LQMT is that dumb, then nothing else needs to be said.”
Not where you are going with this estimation but in my mind it’s more about who is in a position of power and who is holding the cards? Take a guess a wild guess! TWT&GLTALongs
Pure Genius! TWT&GLTALongs