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This company has a lot more in the works Than Kadcyla. 11 more compounds with promise at my last count. I would not bet against a big bounce after this over reaction to one compound that would not have made them an extreme amount of money anyway. JMHO.
Agreed, people can make anything they wan't out of "relationships" to promote interests/personal views. I care to wager all politicians do it. It's just a matter of who is a threat to who, and who gets caught up in the political blame game. As far as A-Bloc is concerned, it still is a science worth pursuing, as I know from personal experience. I currently have no position in this stock, but will be monitoring it. Good luck to those currently invested.
The targeting of AnataBloc by the FDA is an outrage. Out of the thousands of supplements available on the market, what makes this one such a target. Is it a real threat to Big Pharma? It worked for me on many ailments. I am not happy that I can no longer buy a safe product that did so much for the benefit of my health. As for the stock, I gave up on that some time ago because of a virtually incompetent management. When things change, I may invest again. In the meantime, I just wish I could buy AnataBloc for my health.
The market is extremly unreasonable when it comes to the value of stocks. Take into consideration TSLA, AMZN, NFLX, etc. Other biotechs also fall into this catagory. I will agree that past management has overpaid themselves, and maybe current management may be guilty as well. When I was involved in small companies, we took a reasonable salary and expected to be rewarded after we made some money. Currently, people seem to expect making a fortune before the fact. As far as Anatabloc and the potential for treating diseases, I'm on board, as I am a faithful user. Inflammation has been shown to be a primary factor in almost all serious medical conditions. This leads to a problem for STAR, as FDA regulations expect a specific target. Which disease should you target and spend your resources on? If controlling inflammation helps almost all diseases, how do you convince the FDA that this is benificial by their standards? In the meantime, I hope that AnataBloc will be available OTC for along time, and from there, who knows. I appreciate all who contribute excellent information on this board, and wish everyone the best.
Take a pick on what planet, because A-BLOC is not a performance enhancer. So he got beat! That's sports. Not a knock on what A-BLOC does for a persons well being. Just saying.
To add to your reply, Vitamin E is sold as a natural product and a synthetic form. Just because the synthetic form is not the natural form, does not mean that it is considered a drug. Seems to me to be the case with Anatabine. One also has to wonder why after years of anatabine being sold in one product or another, why now is the FDA questioning whether or not it is a supplement or a drug? Many theories are possible. All I hope is that anatabine is available to me because I think it benefits my health.
I find it funny that people who call something a scam seem to think that the users of that product are crazy for thinking they are benefiting from that product. What proof, or even reasonable arguement can you present to say the product is a scam?
Sorry DOPHIN, supposed to be a new message. I hit the wrong button.
Just like the snakeoil salesmen for Pharma that push every drug/vaccine for every real or made up ailment known to mankind? Their snakeoil comes with warnings from everything from mild symptoms to death. Nothing has been proved dangerous about AnataBloc. After over 2 years taking it, it is simply a daily routine for me as well as a good vitamin regimen. I will not take prescription or over the counter drugs such as Advil/Tylenol, because I have landed in the emergency room in the past from these supposedly safe drugs. I wish to make my own choices as to what I put into my body for my health, and from my experience, a proper supplement regiman and Anatabloc do the trick. Star & AnataBloc may or may not survive, and that in my opinion would be a shame, because we all deserve to have a choice in the way we take care of our health, not be told how to do it. As far as an investment, take your stab at being right or wrong about the future of the company and the product. Time will tell all.
Regular users of AnataBloc all know that it is different than popping an Advil or Tylenol. The method of action is different, and not as immediate. Most regular users of AnataBloc adjust dosage and frequency to suit their individual condition. For me, I started A-Bloc to try and relieve a 20-year rotator cuff injury that nothing else would help. After a month, I could sleep at night without waking up every hour or two in either pain, or extreme numbness in my arm. Another two months passed and I noticed my lifelong allergies were noticably improved. Do I dought that others see similar benefits? No. Do I dought that some people see no benefit? No. That may be because they are not patient, expecting that instant relief. Or it may be that they don't have a condition that is relieved by the method of action provided by A-Bloc. And just because they see no benefit, does not mean that there is no beneficial action taking place, albeit unnoticed by the user. As with any medication, supplement, etc., it is personal choice and opinion as to what is beneficial. As for Star as an investment, That to is a matter of personal choice by weighing different factors and perceptions. My perception is that AnataBloc, either as a supplement, or a prescription version, is a viable product, and worth an investment risk. With management changes, a new direction, these things are possible. My opinion is still long, without overdoing the risk. Time will tell, and time is what is needed. Good luck all true longs.
Would not want people to take care of their own health , now would we? Where would the FDA, drug companies, ObamaCare be then? Oh, maybe on the road to true cost control in medical care.
Dr. Mullan coming to STAR for the money is an interesting point. Are you talking about the salary? Is it a great improvement from what he was making as CEO of Roskamp? Or is it that with stock and options that he feels like he could make a whole lot more? Or did he take this position because he feels strongly about the potential for anatabine in helping him fulfill his life long work in treating various conditions, such as alzhiemer's disease. Switching from CEO of Roskamp to CEO of STAR doesn't make a lot of sense if STAR is a dead end, does it? There is evidently more here than you would like to believe, or admit. Still a great short? At this price level, I beg to differ. The chances now for making money as a short are overwhelmed by the potential upside. But hang in there. We will see what the tree shakes loose.
Nuke, I agree that the channels for the face cream, etc., are in the wrong hands. The people in charge of getting this and other products in the right hands, in my opinion, have not been doing there jobs. (JW's son?). Get somebody capable to expand marketing and promotions, (Tahlia Tuck?). As you can tell, I am not happy with current management and the jobs that are supposed to be performed to the level of compensation awarded. Myself and a couple of others had a business, and nobody made money until we made money. What part of this doesn't this company understand? I believe in the product, and hope that it changes many more lives, as it has mine. Right now I feel that a great product is being screwed up by incompetant personel, and it is infuriating as a stockholder. Hopefully someone will relate these feelings to the hopefully new management at the annual meeting. We have a game changer here. Please, let's not let anyone screw it up!
From reading posts on another board, it raises some questions for the detractors. What is negative about Mullen and Chapman taking the lead in this company? Some real arguements please. 80% adverse events being claimed by detractors. I did not read this out of the Thyroid study. Please tell me how you come to that conclusion, when any mild events were alleviated by dosage adjustments. When thousands of people take AnataBloc, and don't report these adverse events, and report positive results for many conditions, are you going to keep exlpaining it away as a placebo effect? Or will you keep saying that paid pumpers are the only one's posting positive effects. From the looks of another board, somebody is desperate to keep STAR down. I have never seen such volume of posts and negative remarks as this for any stock that I have seen before. In conclusion, STAR is still speculative as a company, but no valid arguements against the science, and unsubstantiated attacks lead me to believe that this is still a worthwhile investment. Good health to all!!
I appreciate all the informative posts by many on this board. Many arguments about STAR, management, and the science have been presented. As far as management, the changes with Mullan, etc., are a definate positive. Mullan and Chapman are not on board for a snakeoil product. The road to success with a pharma version of anatabine may not be as quick as people would like, but the reality is it is very possible, maybe with a fast track. Studies are there to get this approval, despite arguements to the contrary. The current version, AnataBloc, is successful in alleviating many conditions, and even though it has not flown off the shelves, it has many believers in it's benefit's, including myself. Naysayers spout many arguements, but for the most part deflect and avoid answers when questioned about the statements that they make. STAR may take off any time, or it may take years. All I know is I am recieving the benefits of AnataBloc, and am willing to wait for the benifits of the stock.
I saw a reference to Anataflex a couple of months ago. To reach the website do a yahoo search for Anataflex. It will bring up anataflex and some other similarly named products. I have viewed the website and noticed that if you did not know the difference, you would think you were on the AnataBLOC website. Coloration of the packaging, golf pro endorcements, anti-inflammatory references, etc.. Cost is $89.95 for a one month supply. Could not find a company name or location anywhere on the site. Only reference was "Copyright 2013, Premium Nutraceuticals LLC".
I myself would be wary at this point. The pps is not moving at this point. Might just be a clever ploy buying a bunch at 5 cents, getting interest up,(as the bid ask went from 0/5 to 5/10 without any pps movement), sell at 10 to chasers and double their money. Worst that could happen is sell them back again at the 5 cents they were bought at.
In my opinion, the S-Isomer isolation of anatabine could be huge. If it is fast tracked for thyroid problems, many other autoimmune conditions will follow. I take AnataBloc, (two years now), and could not be more pleased with the results. People talk about the expence of A-Bloc as a bad thing. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have had an extreme shoulder and collar bone injury fo 20 years prior to A-Bloc, that would keep me up every night with pain, arms going numb, etc.. Since A-Bloc, I rarely have a problem with this injury, and when I do aggrevate it, it is no where near as severe. Other conditions improved are lifelong allergies, (I can't believe how much improvement), gum disease reduced, and many other subtle improvements in my health. Add up the costs of various medications, (Over the counter or prescription for pain, allergies, etc., and tell me that it is less expensive than A-Bloc). These results did not come instantly. It was a few months before I started realizing all the changes in my health. In this age of instant gratification/results, I conclude that most people that try A-Bloc don't give it enough of a chance. The method of action is not an instant thing. It is a subtle change that takes time. I hope that when people are educated to this fact, and realize the benifits of lowered inflammation in the body, they will realize that this is a life improvement product. As an investor, I have not been thrilled with the PPS, but believe that forces out of my control are in charge of this stock,(for the time being). Since I believe in the product, and the positive changes being made in management, I will not surrender my shares, as I believe there will be an extreme turnaround in the near future. I hope others that have experienced the same benifits from A-Bloc, feel the same way.
Keep getting deleted for asking for factual responses for questions. I will simplify this post by asking someone what he meant by stating "Honestly they should be taking out ad's with AARP with some star from the 70's. Old people are gullible anyway". Many people, including myself, have experienced improvements in our lives, and that is why we are here. Are you insinuating that we are all old and gullible?
Got to admit that it doesn't take much time out of the day to catch up on messages anymore.
Moderate this! Answer the questions. You have not replied to past posts by me asking you for factual information. Among these never replied to questions were, give me a list of FDA approved drugs with no meaningful side effects. Site your credentials that allow you to interpret a Phase 2 study, and claim that it is a failure. Site your references as to your claim that drug companies trials of the same phase are on a much larger scale. Did not respond, as I pointed out that Phase 2 Lipitor studies were approximately 1/5 the size. Explain recent posts on another board, that say only 6-8% of studies submitted for publication are accepted, then when the thyroid study is accepted, you make JCEM out to be the national enquirer of medical journals. Please explain your in depth knowledge of the peer review process, and why this practice is in place. Explain your latest post on another board stating, (not exact word for word), that honestly, they (meaning STAR), should be taking out ad's with AARP with some star from the 70's. Old people are gullible anyway. Explain your comment that NukeJohn must be deleting posts. Facts Please!
Just for arguements sake, let's say a company like Merck influences various political entities to make it's Gardasil vaccine mandatory for children down to 12 years old. (In some states, without parental permission). This has happened in a couple of states. Are they any different than JW? Maybe with the exception that Gardasil vaccines have noted serious side effects, and benifits are questionable at best. (So maybe they are worse, as well as the supporting politicions). Who is going after them? Seems to be a good old boys network as to what is acceptable or not. Promote a product that may very well lower health care costs, or promote a product that is questionable at best, and is funded by the tax payer for a ridiculous price. Arguements about character, bribery, etc., are ridiculous. This is America, where anything goes for a buck. It's just that some causes are better justified than others. (HA HA). When it boils down to facts, like A-Bloc showing benifits for auto-immune diseases, it should be a no brainer to continue to support the product and further studies. But I guess that would go against Pharma and Gov's plan to kill us off, or put us in debt to our eyeballs with traditional treatments. Lot's of effective treatments out their that Pharma and Gov try to squash all the time. Just venting, and all said is just my humble opinion.
The "S" isomer isolated from anatabine would be considered a drug, therefore allowing FDA supervision and possibly fast track status. This is what I believe Star is moving forward on. Another drug company has taken fish oil, and concentrated an ingrediant, (DHA), and marketed it as a drug, and quite qickly. If this is the case, accelerated trials and reviews will be on the agenda, because of treating conditions that basically have no effective treatment. How fast this happens, I don't know, but much quicker than ordinary trials. If a Pharma steps up to partner, it will happen much sooner. JMHO.
What trumped up claims? Star never put out any claims, just reported study information. Is this saying that somehow John Hopkin's, Roskamp, Harvard, etc., are all liars and in on some scheme to defraud investors? Get real. Somebody want's this company to tank badly. Hopefully, some big investors have better sense than this. I am encouraged by the changes being made. Should be great for the company.
Teedlum, I really don't understand it. Two best news releases in a long time, and the PPS retreats further. I can't understand why companies other than Star that are draining money can command a share price 2-5 times that of Star. Not to mention Netflix, Tesla, etc., that are valued beyond belief. The potential here is incredible, and I can't believe investors won't wake up to this fact. Changing the management to Mullan, etc., speaks volumes for the possibilities in biotech opportunities. These people are not out to scam anyone, which unfortunatly was the stigma around JW. I believe that stigma was not deserved, but none the less, it was there. He may have been a used car salesman, but he made the most of it. He ended up selling Lasick Eye Surgery equipment to Abbott for over 300 million. Not a bad deal considering Abbott probably made alot more than that off of it. To cut it short, JW probably rubbed some people the wrong way, but he is at least an innovator. The patents will still be his, and he will end up with alot more money than we can ever dream of. If Wall Street wakes up, they will be on the winning end of this to. GLTAL's.
Mullan as CEO should now say to Wall Street that Star is a legitimate biotech stock, and the results so far have been impressive. Why else would Mullan leave Roskamp to head up Star going forward. All good as far as I can see.
Best news in a long time. No more JW and Peritto attacks on management, and a clear direction for moving forward. Should rattle a few cages very soon. The 141,000 share buy shortly after the news is hopefully only the start of things to come.
No. I'm pretty sure it was Abbot.
Please explain the following statements by you. You know who you are. Only 6-8% of studies submitted for publication are accepted. Then explain to us why a study conducted by experts in their field, and reviewed by other experts in their field, managed to get published,(evidently against the odds that you proposed), if the findings did not have any merit in treating thyroid conditions. Please explain to us why the lowering of 1 antibody level, and not the other 2, is significant in any way. Please explain what each antibody level represents in the disease, and how it impacts the disease. Please explain why experts in the field feel that the results were meaningful enough to state that following results for a longer period of time and studying the results further, is somehow a negative. Why follow if the results were negative, as you propose. Please explain why a study that shows efficacy for an autoimmune disease, at any level, is a bad thing. Points to some efficacy in other, if not all autoimmune diseases, without whacking out the immune system to the point of the body attacking itself, or not defending itself. Please list your credentials to back up your arguements as to your interpretation and questioning of the study results that would impune the personnel involved in the study, and the review of the study. PLEASE!
Interesting also that the PPS gets walked down in the morning on almost no volume. Then all of a sudden big bids start showing up. Accumulation, or covers? Anyway, it's obvious longs are not running for the hills, as some would like everyone to believe.
My take on the situation, IMHO. The publication of the Thyroid Study does not surprise anyone who is invested already. The results, with minor side effects and dose adjustments are no big deal. The results that matter are that improvement was seen. Name me any other drug, etc. that has accomplished these results. Why has not the price moved on this release? Well, shorty is still in control, and will manipulate to the last second. Major funds that do not cover this stock, will have some upcoming star address the potential for anatabine and have their experts in biotech analyse this study. If they have anyone competant, they should deduce that the results are far more reaching for many autoimmune diseases. All it will take is one or two major funds to get interested in the potential. I will put my faith in Dr. Ladenson, as he is putting his reputation on the line. To have his work peer reviewed, which means others competent of clinical results, are satisfied with the results. The study being accepted and published speaks volumes. Negative comments need to be substantiated by the poster, with some real facts, not just spins. Have a good day all longs, because the news keeps getting better.
As pointed out in a post last week by abew4me, (can't remember the post number), the mint flavored version of AnataBloc contains sucralose, which has reported side effects. May I suggest that if you were taking the mint version, sucralose might have been the problem, and not anatabine itself. Anyway, I have taken AnataBloc for over 2 years, which most of that is the unflavored, with no problems at all. Sorry you had a bad experience, and wish you well.
Your last sentence says it all. Exactly what I've been trying to expose.
Nomo, answer me this. You claim I don't support my arguements with links to the information. I have not seen you post any links to your arguements. Mine are readily available with a simple search. So far you claim that you know a person that had severe side effects from AnataBloc. You have been questioned about this from more than just me. So far you have not come back with what this supposed side effect is, or any verification of. Others have posted Harvard studies as to safety issues. Do you doubt Harvard? Next, you claim that drug companies studies are broader than STSI's studies. I quoted that Lipitor Phase 2 studies had 23 participants. You come back with participants does not mean broader. Well, then what is broader? I've seen you attack brand ambassadors for not winning tournaments. Well, Anataboc is not a steroid or performance enhancer. Just helps with inflammation, which is all the company has claimed. Management for STSI includes former FDA officials, etc., experienced in navigating FDA rules, as there is a fine line here between supplements and drugs. Therefore caution on any press releases or claims. As for me being immature and attacking you as you claim, I'll leave that up to others to judge. Again, where is that list of safe FDA approved drugs. Doctors are still shaking in their boots about recommending AnataBloc. Yea right.
I'm wondering if a poster on other board that just called me
a paid schill and more, is the same poster as here. Why did he bring up my ID all of a sudden? I have not posted there for quite awhile, and have not had any mention of my ID for quite some time. I posted awhile ago that I would not post or reply to posts on that board. Boy, it was awful tempting, considering what they let you say on that board, and what they called me. So in retrospect. I will chill and be a bigger person. Thank God for IHUB, that keeps the discussions civil and clean.
Nomo will never do anything but say this or that as fact, but never backs it up with any proof. Serious side effect by someone he knows? Well Nomo, what is this serious side effect? Who is it? You still have not come back with any proof on the arguements I presented to you the other day. Got shot down on studies by pharma being larger scale than STSI's studies. Avoided completely the other arguements I presented. Got that list of safe prescription drugs yet? Can you counter that reporting adverse reactions to drugs or supplements are different in any way? Can you back up anything you say? Giving you another chance, but I doubt you can back up your arguements.
Abew4me, I think all of us ought to e-mail the company and express our concerns over this. If we are going to have a life changing healthy product, we need to make them aware that ingrediants like this don't help. Myself, I changed to the unflavored as soon as it came available. Hopefully most people have done the same.
You want a reasonable discussion, OK. STAR has promoted studies on anatabine by top medical institutions and top professionals in their fields. Is this any different than the drug companies promoting studies on their drugs? As for doctor's fearing lawsuits for prescribing anatabine, the safety of anatabine has been studied, and over two years of use by the public without reports of any serious side effects, if any. If doctors were worried about lawsuits for safety issues, I would like you to name a couple of prescription/FDA approved drugs that are "safe", and don't carry warnings for serious side effects. Awaiting the list.
Nomo's figures of 13,000 users cannot be accuratly proved. You have to take into account advertising, promotions, commissions, etc., to arrive at an accurate figure. Anyway, doctor's can prescribe anything they wan't as a course of treatment. It does not matter if it is a twinkie. It does not need FDA approval. If it works, they will prescribe it. The studies, like I have pointed out before, will be sufficient to make claims for certain conditions. Do you think that a doctor, knowing that a product is available that does something no other drug can, that he would not prescribe it? In my opinion, he would be negligent in not precribing it. Anyway, as I said before, the sky is the limit on this stock. So many avenues for revenue. If just a couple come to fruition, smart investors will be very happy.
Despite the recent posts/articles arguing against STAR on multiple subjects, the picture is clear to those invested. We believe that we have a product that can change lives via many avenues. The posters and articles would like you to believe many points. The studies don't mean anything, they are not FDA trials, etc. Truth is the studies are valid to prove effecacy. STAR can then make claims to treat specific conditions that have been proven, and doctors can prescribe for those conditions. An actual drug could very well follow quickly, as most studies being completed are equivalent to phase 2, and fast track could follow shortly with the right partner. Next, financials are doomsday for STAR. Not so! There are hundreds of companies that financials are the same or worse. Death spiral? Not so. STAR has investors that believe and will keep STAR going as long as it takes. Some poster here would like you to believe investing is all about financials, among a dozen other angles. If that were so, you would only invest when the boat is full. Not a good plan to make money. To make real money, you have to find companies with innovative or life changing products. Research those companies, try the products, and make an informed decision. I believe most people on this board follow that investment thesis. When the time comes, the tactics to drive the PPS down will no longer work, and the PPS will go up accordingly. Good luck to all longs, although I don't think we need it. We have done our homework.
Buddha, I hope a few more people reply to this poorly researched, written article. Full of inuendo, what a surprise. In my opinion, the long position is looking better and better. Shorts are getting more and more nervous, and sending everything they have,(which is not much), at every price increase. This rticle from these writers is a joke, as is their option newsletter, which is one of the worst I have ever tried.