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So much for being closed up over a year and a half ago LOL!
Regards :)
Old video??? Haha ROFL lol
Well let's see here:
1. There were 2015 mustangs in the shop SO not from 2013!
2. The Saleen GTX has only been out for a year which means 2014!
This video was just recently done. Proof they are busy vs a pic of an empty lost that was several years old... Lol
Regards!
A video from gearheads taking a look inside the shop at the Saleen Campus and also a ride along in Steve's Saleen GTX:
Oh please!
Please show us the PR regarding this statement???
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Yes exactly!
I'm glad to see that he got smart and decided to do what they wanted.
This is proof of what exactly happened. This way no one can make up a story and say that Saleen didn't win.
I just received today a copy of the judges ruling in the case Saleen Automotive vs Frederic Lambert. This will clear up any and ALL confusion everyone has with what the exact outcome was in this case:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/273422987/Order-July-28-2015
Not at all.
Them filing suit has stopped someone that was spread false claims and will remove the defamatory comments that were made as well.
So much for Fred winning huh? Lol What a joke that was. Haha
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I didn't say the court did. I said did you read the filing?
Them filing the suit cause Frederic to do what they wanted!
Its very simple to understand. Smh
Oh my. Smh.
Again! Did you read the court filing and see what Saleen was requesting the courts to do??.
Did you read the court filing and see what Saleen was requesting the court to do?
Now, with that in mind they asked for the following:
1. Removal of ALL and ANY defamatory statements made everywhere.
2. Permanent injunction against the defendant Frederic Lambert.
What is happening in this "settlement"?
EXACTLY what Saleen requested in the above TWO points!
What is Fred getting out of all this?
1. Not having to spend money he doesn't have as he already stated " he doesn't have the money to defend himself based in the $10-50k retainer for this case.
2. If he was found guilty he could also be criminal charged for defamation based on the Canada laws.
So yes, this is a "settlement" in regards to the courts eyes BUT in reality Saleen came out winning this one because they got exactly what they asked for.
Regards :)
Lol. Not a win?
So here let's see, if you play blackjack and you push your hand with the dealers hand is that a win or a loss?
Basically thats a way to look at this. Saleen requested what they had in the filings and got it. They also didn't list any damage amount in the filing. Why? Well first they knew it wouldn't go that far and two they weren't looking to get money from a 23 year old kid. They wanted him to stop doing what was illegal and to remove what he had already done.
That is what he is going to do and should do. For him to put up a fight on things he DOESN'T have proof for is just crazy.
I feel this ended right and Saleen got what they wanted!
Lol. What a ridiculous statement that is not true at all!
Fred didn't have the money to fight the suit so he folded his cards and agreed to what they wanted.
It will be finalized at the next hearing in September IMO. They need time to draw up all the paperwork on both sides, he has to go thought everywhere he ever posted and remove it OR note it for the court documents and then remove after the court date.
Saleen owes him NOTHING
Um, let's see here:
Saleen files for a permanent injunction and what do they get, what they asked for!
Did they also ask for the removal of everything he said defamatory in the court filing? Yes they did. Did they get what they asked for? Yes they did!
So yes, it is a WIN for Saleen and a lose for Fred. The only "win" for Fred is not having to spend tens of thousands of dollars to fight something he would lose anyways.
Point is there were several saying that Saleen would lose and be counter sued from Fred. So much for that great idea. Lol
So a look back at a comment fron fredvestor regarding slander and speaking about himself as a 3rd party and stating that Saleen would sue IT it was slander and they have not... Well up to that point they hadn't but now they have!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=113418343
Well look at that! It went in favor of Saleen. So much for it going in Fred's favor lol
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WRONG! It was mentioned here:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=115689320&txt2find=amendment
Lol
Fred is being sued. HE will be the one to prove his statements. He has already made them, Saleen says they are NOT true court will say to Fred what proof do you have?
Very simple to understand.
I think emailing then directly about stock related emails you not going to get a response. Please, send ANY company an email directly about there stock and your not going to get your questions answered. That is just ridiculous!
Hidden??? Nothing is hidden? Again, completely WRONG!
Fabricated strong statements saying basically this is happening vs an opinion are two very different things!
There is NO PROOF that can be provided for the following:
Saleen is being investigated by the SEC
This was a specific comment that is NOT true and has NO proof to back it.
An opinion would have been stated as follows:
I think they are being investigated by the SEC.
These are very different. One is an opinion and one is a DIRECT STATEMENT that is NOT true!
It is one thing to have an opinion and to state it OR state facts from filings that anyone can read but its another to post defamatory statements that are simply NOT TRUE!
Saleen has done PR on new models and has also followed through and produced them. Good luck on that one!
Regards :)
I and many other disagree with this view.
If someone was posting things about me, my family and company that were NOT true I would also sue them! That is why there is freedom of speech (in the USA) and then defamation/libel!
Regards :)
Yes. The S-281E was a great car and still is!
The 2015 Black Label is even better!
Yes this is correct. You have done your homework from the filings and understand how tough it is when there is a big model year change.
2015-2016 will prove to be BIG for the new design of the Mustang and the Saleen Mustang.
Hmmm... Really???
Yes, day traders are killing the stock right now!
If people would start holding onto the shares and especially people started buying big share quantiles the price would go up.
I still stand behind the Company, Brand, product and people of Saleen.
Fred has to provide the proof that his statements are true and not defamatory. He cannot on several of them so he is guilty IMO!
We will see what the court finds!
We will see what the court find's.
Also how Fred can prove 3 very important points. Because he is the one that has to prove his innocence not Saleen!
Regards :)
The lawsuit is regarding defamation, not the financial situation of slnn. Other then what has been stated by the defendant has caused harm to the company.
Regards :)
Nope, completely wrong!
Belief of an opinion and it being true with proof provided are 2 completely different things!
Haha smh
Some things stated he could prove to be correct but not ALL of them!
He still committed defamation, libel or whatever you would like to call it and that is why Saleen and the CEO are doing this.
Its pretty cut and dry.
1. Company is a scam - not able to be proven
2. Being investigated by the sec - not able to be proven
3. Is a ponzi - not able to be proven
So just those 3 alone even if you get rid of the however many other false statements that were made he is guilt of defamation and or libel.
Regards :)
Lol.
Well take a look at my other post but he is located in Canada not the USA so not the same free speech.
Also, you can not make defamatory statements which is what he did.
Well, that is all completely wrong! Lol
This all makes me laugh a bit but I will give a little lesson on free speech and the 1st amendment.
1. Fred is in Canada and was filed in Canada so the amendments have NOTHING to do with this at all. SMH lol
2. Fred must prove it since he is the one being sued. Not Saleen so again completely wrong.
3. The following is a link talking about libel and defamation that will clear up all the incorrect information:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_in_Canada#Canadian_libel_and_defamation_law
Have a good weekend! :)
I agree 1000%!
Will be interesting to see the outcome and how it will affect the stock!
Lol. Really no case?
That's a joke. They have a very VERY good case to shut this guy down! He has hurt Saleen and has even personally attacked the CEO of the company many times.
Calling the company a scam, pump and dump being investigated by the sec etc is slander! He will see his day in court if it even goes that far since he can't afford an attorney lol
Maybe he should have thought about this before spending every day bashing Saleen and the stock.
This is just proof that Saleen is going to stand behind there brand and image that Mr Lambert thought he would destroy!
Regards :)
Point being there is NO flawed math!
Not wanting to admit that there is potential for HUGE revenues compared to what had been stated is the problem.
But we will see what happens here as I still continue to say the test of 2015 is going to be HUGE!!!
Exactly! Samething I just asked. They is NO proof of that BUT there has been many photos taken of completed vehicles for customers which proves they are building and shipping vehicles. Compared to them NOT building. Lol
Lol. Oh ya right
Very far from that! They are building and shipping vehicles. There is proof of that! But no proof that customer are NOT getting there cars they ordered. Based on that, the rest is not important at all.
Regards :)
Exactly!!!
We are talking big revenues here which is what I have been saying all along this year. With the release of the 2015 Saleen Mustang in all 3 trim levels the revenues will increase. And breaking down the deposit amount gives us a pretty good idea.
$1.8 million/$7k = 257 cars
Im just saying the average is $70k per car. Ofcourse if the average is lower then its more orders, more its less orders.
No no no... Still completely missed and understood what I'm saying. Smh
Making the statement of there being 63, 65 etc customer that have put a deposit down. So how many are there? Every time the number changes!
Yes we know there is reported $1.8 million in deposits according to the filing. They are also building and delivering vehicles so no worries about that deposit amount. They are getting filled.
That's too funny, discovery in Fred's case haha
Its disclosed in the recent annual filing. Nothing to discover but nice try.
Not only that it will take much more $$$ then he has to do that. Lol
Smh... Oh my! Let's try this way maybe then will understand it:
It was stated 63 customers before now you have stated 65. Both using the same $1.8 million figure. So which is it???
I already know how the money flow works. Thanks!