That was the most boring and laborious interview I have ever heard!!!

The latest PR shows 2 years, and others previous were 2 years as well, however, couple of days ago someone posted a fortress pr that showed 1 year, I'm sure of it.

True enough,.. they posted a restriction of 1 year, however, in the last PR, I did not see this.. One year wouldn't be so bad if the PPS can at least be maintained. Things as they are, with all the volatility, who knows?

You are correct Ordinary, 2.34 Vs 1000, or carry it out as you did, i.e., 10,000,000 shares fortress Vs 23,400 Hurasu. With that being said, if the Harasu Stock goes below approx. .05, then we are losing money.

I haven't seen this posted,.. what link are you deriving this change from?

No losses here, and only time will tell. It is refreshing to have new people and thoughts on a board. What you may not realize is these boards are full of bashers, pumpers, and the like. Cynical we are, the players of the pinky world. If you have never dealt with this before in this pinksh-t, then you must open your eyes. I hope that you can appreciate such point of view. You have planted your seed here on this BCND board,and I personally will remain cynical until such time I believe otherwise. My cynicism does not relate to you directly, rather, as a mode of protection for my hard earned money. You have offered many good points of view. Some more inclined to be from people from the inside of BCND. Not opposed to having contact with inside personnel as it could serve us well, especially where it concerns the voices of the investors being heard. Specualtion runs rampant on these boards and false hopes are built on such speculation. It would be nice to have a viable corp. we can profit from.

I appreciate your trust and hope ABDUL is our partner. As bobky pointed out so eloquently,(love the pic by the way LMFAO) we are here and he is apparently in a world of Luxury, so why the interest in small potatoes,.. playing around in lotto penny stocks is not how these people get rich nor are they inclined to spend their time here. Prove me wrong ABDUL, I support BCND based upon my DD and the DD of others. We're all in this together.

Adam seems too professional to pull something like this,.. we all want this succeed, especially long term. I hate making hasty assumptions, this however, displeases me.

comes out of nowhere. Well, it could be to the advantage of the board, if honest with us.

Yeah, you hear claims of blame of all kinds. When you break it down to basics, the MM's control it all, unfortunately. The inside I would like to know, what truly other than these small manipulations, incentivises these MM's and allows such a stock as BCND (one with true potential) to run?

ABDULA,.. how do you drive, gather info, and communicate so fast? I need lessons on personal time management!!

flippers can't control the 0001-0002 range. Flippers drove it down to this point, now however, it's the MM's. They count on flippers to bring it to this present range. MM's just keeping it alive. It's safer for the MM's to be in the 0001-0002 range, do it 10 or 20 times (buy and short), rather than go beyond .0003.

It's a damn shame to see BCND and the investors at the mercy of these manipulators. It would seem to me that the potential to create an upward movement would be more inticing to these MM's rather than 0001-0002 and vice versa (shorting). This should be discouraging to Adam as well. I believe that Adam has Dominion by the short hairs. Once these legal issues clear, then we will see significant momo. Dominion will want to clear the air quickly imo.

JMO, we alone on this board are not the driving force of the PPS. Times are tough, despite what people say about pinks not being affected by the general stock market. Especially now, considering our nations state of affairs. Where there is an advantage (pinks or otherwise)is when the market hits bottom and the only way to go is up. This will take time to recover. Expectancy from any of us as individual investors for this to start moving any time soon,imo, would be an unreasonable thought. The unfortunate part of pinks is that most want the quick turnaround(0001-.0002 mentality). In this case, don't invest any more than you can afford to lose or tie-up, trading 101.

I personally have 6mil shares @ .0002, and have confidence there will be movement, probably not so soon, however, long term, I believe it will be a winner. Hard to find many people though that will do long term pinks. Appears there are several on this board that believe long term is the way of this stock.

Agreed..thanks for the valuable info. In all appearances, BCND seems to have future potential. As opposed to most pinks, they have tangible assets,contracts, and subsidiaries. Long term, it's still a lotto play, however and again, one with more hope. JMO. Like the mentality of this board as well.

It's refreshing to see such professional responses, especially in pinky world. Most definately Dominion's award sets a legal precedence for case law in favor of Beacon. As he said though, they will most likely appeal. I wonder though if this legal issue will halt further endeavors to extract, excavate, drill, etc.? Beacon seems to have the upper hand here, JMO, Beacon could name their price.

It would seem to me that this milestone becomes case law and would play to Beacons advantage where it concerns rights on the storage aspect. 22 years could infuse a considerable amount of money to Beacon.

maybe even ask pennypune (medicated or not) the positive word of the day!! WEEEEE! hit .01 today! WEEEEE!

Shake a tree he did!! He can buy my remaining shares for all I care. I made my money on this POS. The real disappointment is doing business with game-players like Lumb. If he was a real businessman, we would have nothing but admiration for him. Instead, he is a narcacistic a.h., and preys upon investors. All pinks are POS, I remain a believer to that affect and I will continue to make money on that basis. V is a nice person, I hope her skin got thicker on this one. Good luck to all, "it's been real, it's been fun, it has not been real fun.

Let lumb/santini cry their blues to the SEC that the board was the cause of all their woes!! We're mean and viscious investors and that we didn't play well in the sand box. Yeah right!!!

V,
why don't you call IR and see if this Fortressvalue person is who they say they are,.. or make contact with Santini. There is something amiss with Fortressvalue. No one operates in such an emotional state unless they had bad intentions from the beginning.

Always glad to hear someone made money. Pink divis, typically speaking, aren't(95% not) worth the paper they're printed on. Best of luck to ya! Watch out for those Nevada/Arizona flying pigs!!

The flying pigs statement was made, and you can find that one yourself. As for the jist of what I was trying to convey, you apparently are one of those that still believes, so beit, however, if you have been with this one for a while, let me ask you this, what have you received thus far that was promised? Hope you flipped for profits, otherwise, I wonder why you would believe anything Lumb or Santini says. They have delivered nothing as yet! For all the longs, make sure you remove the Lumb ring from your nose, he's pulling hard on that rope and you're all bleeding, taste the blood.

I am amazed at these responses? Does anyone realize that at this point in time, you're not guaranteed that you will receive even the restricted shares?! Fortressvalue, if it is Lumb, made the statement, "Look out your open window, do you see the pigs flying." That referenced cash divi and restricted shares. Time after time, these 8K PR's, worked us all down to where we are now. A kept promise is when you receive such promise. Has anyone received these promises as yet? Believe in him if you will, he has your money, and you have nothing as yet. POS pinks are designed for flips, don't buy into promises, they're salesmen at their best, or perhaps worst. Learn that lesson, and you will lose less the next time.

THe PROOF, with links that people have provided today should be enough as to the history of Lumb. Do you really believe he and his underling Santini have good intentions for the investors? Business in their minds is a quick buck, provided by our money. I personally will sell,(if I can?!) my remaining shares asap. There are better investments out there.

HGLC & FFGO volume is in the toilet today.This pr with Hunt Gold seems to add to the confusion. Issues are becoming more clouded, hence, lack of transparency. That being said, confidence to invest, or simply to get this pig rolling is unlikely at this point.

look up investopedia.com instead of taking anyone elses word on this board. It will define any trading lingo.

If the open market is 850-1000 dollars, tell me how a mining company retails? It will pass through many hands, each taking a profit, before it hits a jewelry store, retail outlet, even wholesalers.

hey grey, still on that kick! First and foremost, mining companies don't sell gold at retail, i.e. $850.00 oz. Second, can't sell gold until it's extracted! Same with oil, can't make a profit without the goods! Not naysaying, just reality!

come on hoocher, put a $100.00 up and test buy at $1.00!

Wow dude, you've taken this so far out of context, seems a bit personal to you? Point is, they have yet to extract the gold. Feb. 2009 will be 3 years! No banana! Apparently if there was a deep seated interest in extracting this gold, cost effectively, they would have made more progress. Fact remains, is there a viable way to undertake this extraction, and profit from it? Technology at its best today is not good enough to make this happen, otherwise, it would have already bet set in motion.

Agreed. Parties that hold the deed will be second in line to reap the rewards, the highest percentage of reward goes the mining company. Someone who leases, only shares what is agreed upon within such a lease, which would be minute in comparison to the owners/miners. How much would you give up to someone that leases your property knowing it is a POTENTIAL gold opportunity? THe people that actually do the mining effort have the most to gain, then the property owner(s), and lastly the leasee.

If you were an engineer, the terms, as related to potential would make perfect sense. Let's take potential from the human perspective. We all have potential to do various things. Do we or can we follow through with such potential? That is up to us to make such an effort. Dynamics in the sense of engineering, means to have movement, therefore, if it is not dynamic, it is static. That is what we have here, static in the sense, there are limitations to extract the potential gold. Nothing obsene here, no ploy to undermine your opinion, as I have a right like everyone else here to voice such an opinion.

Would love to read one of those leases!

Here's one more for the road. If I were to confer with doctor, let's say a proctologist, about my heart condition, would I pay him to do open heart surgery on me! Absolutely not, not a wise play. So why should we trust someone who knows nothing about mining, and invest because of the potential benefit of rewards he envisions? Makes no sense?! Now if Santini (as the proctologist) refers me to a real heart surgeon (i.e. corporate members that have mining experience) then such members of his organization should disclose valid info as related to this mining region. Show us the money in other words, back it up with meaningful information. Play the pinks, flip it and be done.

This is exactly what I am talking about..these are outdated and they have admitted that the drilling efforts were with limited success. Arizona is promoting companies to come in and mine as it brings a form of economy to them. THERE IS NO UPDATED INFO FOR THE SPECIFIC OR NEARBY SITES. Arizona produces vast amounts of copper, whereas, most gold efforts are potential, methods of extraction are limited for gold in this region.

Yeah, we've now graduated from a "lotto" play to a "value" / "gold" play. Hang on folks, here it comes, pull that lever on the slot machine a few more times! Horse hockey! Talking in riddles as always.. keep the hopes of the long term people so they won't pull out. Like I stated before, if you want your investors to believe you're in the mining business, put out PR that validates why an investor should stay in, i.e., up to date mining efforts, not potential of Arizona and its previous outdated information. The word potential is a non-dynamic term. It only becomes dynamic at the point of which that potential is actually realized, or set into motion. I see no motion here, because nothing has been disclosed about the dynamics of the mining efforts. Only rhetoric.

Keeping the investors informed would include what integral role HGLC/FFGO has in this mining venture. To date, nothing with creedance has been disclosed as to the mining efforts. If someone was speaking of the value of their investment in such an endeavor, I would hope that "value" would be disclosed to the investors. As it stands, imo, nothing lends me to believe that Santini knows diddly about the mining business, and the risks involved to such. He talks in riddles, and keeps us wondering.

Amen to that! Nail on the head! Pinks are for flipping! The long term people keep putting that money into the slot machine to hit that jackpot!

Your purchase pales in comparison to the numbers under this wash that is occuring, so I would not expect to see a dent in the color scheme of the chart. No viable investor at this point will make the purchases at levels these guys are wash trading at. That is a reality, not negativity.