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I agree and although she stated the lack of info had to do with the partnership with Kamasutra (private company) I am not sure I am buying that explanation. She needs to clarify this so we can gauge the revenue potential here and make informed decisions about our investment in HBRM.
LOL,,,would be even funnier if it wasn't costing me money and personal pride over getting lured into a PnD.
One of our most important responsibilities is to communicate with shareholders in an open and direct manner.
If anyone considers this to be a true statement then everyone should call and email the Dr about these 3 areas. If we are ever to get some confidence back in this company then these areas need to be answered definitively.
1. WHO GOT 50M SHARES GIVEN TO THEM AT A PREMIUM SALE PRICE AND FOR WHAT REASONS?
2. WHAT IS THE STATUS IF THE 100M SHARE BUY BACK AND WHY WAS IT ANNOUNCED WHEN THE COMPANY WAS/IS DILUTING THE SS BEHIND THEIR INVESTORS BACKS?
3. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF GROSS REVENUE SALES PROFIT IS HBRM RECEIVING FROM ITS DEAL WITH KAMASUTRA/BISMARC?
You mean consumers won't get drunk and horny on HBRM vodka and then jump up right away to buy some acne medicine?
The float is probably over 500M now so doubt we are over sold according to what HBRM is hoping for with their dilution in my opinion.
You should have sold on the first PnD then. Now you got luggage.
Well it kind of goes along with the open transparent relationship HBRM has with its investors right? You know the 100M share buy back promise while diluting the SS behind our backs as an example so what is a few 50M missing shares that were probably given away for next to nothing for a promo pump in my opinion.
She said 50M shares were sold at a "premium". That does not mean they all went to one person or collective group requiring the 10% threshold for form 3. There could be 2 people getting 25M each or 10 getting 5M each, etc... This would keep it under the radar and not require special forms for documentation. I could see HBRM wanting to keep things under the radar couldn't you?
Well that certainly seems to summarize things here very well with HBRM.
LOL, would they do that? Well, we do have 50M missing shares that were basically given away to someone for some reason in my opinion.
Dr said the 50M were sold at a "premium" which means basically given away to someone or a group for some reason, most likely as payment for something in my opinion. Some insider(s) got a get rich quick give away and probably dumped during the last PnD.
I am guessing 520M for the float as of next financials.
Would not be surprised if that is a net figure after costs. Sure gotta wonder whey HBRM keeps that a secret huh? Quite a few secrets going on like the 50M shares given away to a special friend(s), the 100M share buy back promise while dilution was going on big time behind our backs. Not exactly the kinds of things a legitimate company would be doing in my opinion.
Should have asked him what the was percentage wise for HBRM. Are they going to be getting anything at all after costs are deducted. I am guessing their net profit will be very minimal and they are hoping for brand name exposure to entice sales of their other products. I am sure this info will have to be documented in financial reports upcoming so very very strange that HBRM is with holding this info from investors right now. I am not so sure I buy into the legal privacy explanation that was presented to me. They will have to disclose what they made or did not make with the vodka on their report at some point.
I have seen at least 3 variations of the bottle/vodka. Would make sense that only one of those is the HBRM infused herb bottle I would guess.
http://www.bismarck.de/kamasutra/englisch/kamasutra_ginseng_vodka.html
Just google his name. I am sure he probably has linked in profile and resume with contact info available.
http://www.glgresearch.com/Council-Member/Tom-Wilen-51352.html
or try and contact him via his company listed above.
Does the bottle look like this one:
There are other Kamasutra vodkas out there in various bottles of the female form. I saw them on you tube back to 2010. Maybe you got one of the other flavors and not the HBRM infused bottle?
Call or email Tom Wilen
In my conversation with the Dr she said that they did not disclose the percentage for legal reasons being that they we partnered with a private company. This certainly may be applicable but I do not know for certain. She said she would look to update the PR with a percentage figure if it was allowed. She seemed more concerned with the advertising HBRM would get from the vodka deal then the percentage of sales revenue in my opinion. She described it as free advertising for HBRM's other products via the vodka deal.
LOL,,,to da moon...if this is what a trip to the moon looks like on the HBRM rocket then I can hardly wait to see what a trip to mars looks like. Volume is dwindling down to nothing much like the last PnD and with it the PPS will fall also. That is a given. We have seen it here what 4 times now?
Incorrect unless you can post a PR that shows what percentage they are receiving that none of us have seen before.
How much of the 100M have then bought back?
Gee, I wonder how much of that is attributed to 127M diluted shares being sold? Since your looking at the last report, what was the ongoing debt? Over a million? What was the revenue from existing products being sold?
I asked the Dr about this via phone couple weeks back and her response was that there were certain legal issues involved because Kamasutra is a private company and certain things could not be disclosed. I do not discount this as being possible here but do not have the expertise to say for sure. She said she was going to address this with her legal adviser and see if an update to the PR could be provided at some point. I hope she follows though and is able to tell us what percentage HBRM gets so we can gauge estimate some income for the company for future financial reports.
It might make sense if you have no money such as the 7K in HBRM's bank account for the financial report back in Feb (I believe). How are you supposed to roll out these new ventures such as viagra vodka and energy drinks when you have no money to get started? Only one solution here - dilution. Again though, how do you do one thing while telling your investors in PR the total opposite? Certainly requires clarification, hopefully soon.
LOL, I am going back and forth and my other one is dropping like a rock again so the ticker was on my mind. Thanks for catching and correcting me here. ELTP LONG AND STRONG FOR SURE.
I have bought shares from .04 to .21 and am very happy with my current average around .10. You can't go wrong at this level in my opinion with your investment.
Can you just imagine what the PPS will be when this comes to fruition? All the pieces are in place now. There is no doubt this will be one of the greatest turn around stories in the pharma industry history in my opinion.
LOL,,I am not putting a single penny more into this stock. As you can see the .10 predictions are a little ways off yet unless of course the company decides to do the old RS which commonly follows heavy dilution doesn't it at the pink level?
Funny though since it appears we are drifting back down to the .003's or even the .002's again, when we were at those levels previously, volume dropped off to very minimal so apparently no one was really adding to their position despite the low PPS. Perhaps they felt it was to much of a gamble at this level. Everyone sits on the sidelines and then when the pump starts on some news, they jump in and jump out a short time later when the pump has reached its pinnacle.
Kamasutra vodka, the concept and bottle design has been around since at least 2010 that I find.It is obviously being sold in more places then that for it to have been around a few years. The HBRM ingredient concept is new but the Kamasutra vodka and bottle design is not. I am sure they have established vendors around the country already. You can't just roll out a million cases at once across the country. I think they are trying a sampling to gauge consumer sentiment and if it looks good as far as sales at a few stores then expand it on a much larger national retail level.
50M is only the unaccounted for missing shares which were sold at a premium to person(s) unknown for reason(s) unknown. The dilution far exceeds that number. While dilution to some degree is ok when you have no liquid capital available and you are trying to get revenue generating products going out the door, doing it behind your investors backs after telling them about a 100M share buy back is certainly not good business and requires clear and complete explanation from HBRM. This is something that needs to be clarified in order to help with investor confidence. Until then, all you have is a flip stock on PR driven hype that is unable to hold any sustained rise in its PPS.
The moon must be down under on the Australia side presently according to the PPS.
Marketretun, I am unable to respond to PM's. No I do not have what you inquired about.
Thus far, they refuse to publicly state what percentage of sales revenue they will be receiving from the vodka product. This is strangely evasive and another one of the areas of concern. They need revenue sources so they can stop the dilution and unless they are receiving a decent percentage in this deal, the dilution will continue which will be evident in the upcoming financial 10Q.
How about you call her yourself and talk to her on the phone and then come back and see if you can make the same statement. I spoke to her for over an hour and then posted about my conversation with her. She actually called me twice and to her credit was candid with me within the context of information she is allowed to share with a shareholder. I give her credit for that and hope that she reviews my concerns most of which are also concerns of other investors here and that she addresses them accordingly. I am cautiously optimistic that she will.
I believe it was around 127M according to some other posters good DD and of that 50M is unaccounted for in financial disclosures. The Dr told me that these 50M shares were sold at a "premium" (her words) which means someone or a group got them at a very discounted price below the common share price. Now why they received the discount or for what services they provided remains a mystery here. The SS has increased over 100% since last year. That is plain and simple on going dilution and the Dr told me the reason for it as well over the phone.
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