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Do you have a chart to send showing this. Wht do you mean by TRII trending lower. I agree until news comes it is a bearish trend. I just know if I sell it will teurn around and take off.If I hold it will go lower and take some time to move back to make me even. That is how it always works. You right decisions have to be made with the lack of news. Unfortuanately I will probably sell soon and it will take off like a rocket.
I agee with you it is tough to wait. A lot of the problem is the cultures. What US management and shareholders feel is important is not the the same for the Russians. I think this will get resolved in time. I worked for two Japanese companies and I did experience this first hand. Lets hope we get some good news before the end of the month. I will give the company a pass for a month or so because I think from talking to certain people they are just as frustrated as the shareholders.
I agree management should do a better job on keeping us updated better. I believe they are working on that. The Iceman bought through a third party so the company does not have control over him. If he bought the resticted shares directly they would. For ST I believe he is honest and is a good source of information. I have had my diagreements with him on the point that the company should give us some guidance or their goals.
He also needs to do a better job on disclosure on his website and when he replys on the site. He needs to provide a disclosure link so we can see his restricted shares and the personal shares he has bought. If he does that he will have 100% creditability with most of the shareholders.
It all boils down to whether you believe in their management and their business model. I believe in it because but I am extremely fustrated with the lack of updates.
Where can you find a startup company that has limited competitors, high margins, in a mature market that is growing as fast as a new industry, inside contacts & understanding of the gov't that is putting the business up bidding, only company with the technology to replace lead and etc. I do believe that this is one of those 1 or 2 opportunities in a lifetime that you get for an investment that can make you a lot of money down the road. I am hoping it is not to long.
I am in the hole but I will wait it out another month or so.
I know if I sell it will run, if I hold it will take a little longer.
So its hold or fold. Right now I will hold for awhile longer. I do think good news is coming I just hope it is soon.
It is this 144 selling that I feel is holding back the stock not the shorts others are claiming. I just hope we were not taken by the Iceman & ST to hold on to the stock so their friends could unload at a higher price than otherwise.
I did talk to a technical person from the company about the Nucap. It sounded to me that the company would use it when is was a better option than the BieCom & Feecom. I got the feeling NNRI would rather push these two materials first. These materials are for shielding. The Nucap is for encapsulating not necessarily for shielding. I thought the two materials could do both.
The company should update us on these issues. I have put in a couple of calls to NNRF to express my displeasure with their inability to keep shareholders updated. I thought this was the week to get some updates. Looks like next week then the following week followed by the next week and it just continues the same way. It is hard to be long with this management team.
I agree it is best that the Iceman is quiet. He is still saying that more buyers are coming in from S. American & other places but he is not saying it on his audio updates anymore. I wonder if he has be told to quiet down. I have heard other companies have asked him to do that and I heard one was suing him. It is interesting he is so so quiet on NNRF. Also ST seems to be very quiet. I just hope it is the calm before the storm of good news. I suspect the company has told both to be quiet so it does not look like insiders trading on inside information. I do believe the company is on shaking grounds here.
Hopefully with this hard work they will have some PRs for earning and new business contracts. Shareholders need some news showing something for this hard work and some updates.
One of two things
1. NNRI has their legal people after him to shutup - Gorilla did it
2. He has sold most of his shares. Can anyone get a 144 update for the Iceman
I did not know that the company had recieved a new line of questions from the SEC that are due tomorrow. I know they have submitted 4 amended 10Q. What I mean if we do not see any earnings this week and new contracts why would any institutional buyers buy. This stock is becoming dead money nothing to move it. It will just trade within $1 range from here. It is too bad but it will just be a .25 -.50 trade for traders.
I did not know that the company had recieved a new line of questions from the SEC that are due tomorrow. I know they have submitted 4 amended 10Q. What I mean if we do not see any earnings this week and new contracts why would any institutional buyers buy. This stock is becoming dead money nothing to move it. It will just trade within $1 range from here. It is too bad but it will just be a .25 -.50 trade for traders.
I think they are saying the power business is huge in Russian and hopefully NNRI can win a large portion of the nuclear business. According to Putin's goal they want 25% of power produced by nuclear. i forgot the time frame.
I think if we do not get any news on NNRI by tomorrow it is going to be dead money until next year. It appears to me that NNRI has no control over Atoll. Atoll seems to be on their own schedule to release earnings. I am a getting a little impatience with the management team. I diagree with ST and their IR people that they do not owe us updates. Take CHCG its stock bombed and they had a PR and a conference call to explain to their shareholders what was going on. Many companies do this.
No PRs by this week it is dead money until next yr no matter what Iceman says. Interesting he has not said much lately.
Great Posting. You got ST to respond with good information especially on the 144s. I thought the sales where around 2M. I was able to calculate that from some of the 144 information I had and talking to the IR person. The only thing that ST did not do is reveal how much stock he has bought on the open market and at what price. He personaly told me on the phone that he is in the hole on the stock he purchased. I think this one thing if he disclosed would greatly improve his credibility. I know the Iceman will never have the credibility of ST. It is just this little peiece of information and having a link with it on all of his postings and website would really help. All of the people on CNBC have to put up a disclosure statement before they talk if they are a prompoter or analysis.
I am convinced that this can be a great company that could do $1B in another yr or 2. The problem is the company is late on earnings and has not given the shareholders their company goals. We as long term investors need this information from the company - not a promoter. This might be a great management team but in my book they get F- grade in the PR department.
I think you are right. My guess is they might release earnings and other news at the conference. Looks like
ST is going since he will not have an update for 2 days next week. Hopefully we get something good.
Are you talking about the Iceman??
I ealize this is a more complex business model. A year ago I do not think the SEC would even consider approving it do to the State Department. With Bush saying to open up our nuclear technologies to the Russian they have the ok now.
I talked to the company about the 10k amendments. The main difference was during the time the shell company was taken over. I have not studied it in that much detail but it looks like the company is correct here. Unfortunately I have to learn about the company through the MBs. According to the company they do not listen to them and said the information is not good. I have to disagree with the company here. I have to monitor them to find out what is going on. I question if the company is close to getting SEC approval. This company is 10 times better than CFPC & CYrx and look they still are not listed on the NASDQA or the AMEX. I agree with Iceman on one thing I believe he is right it will not get listed until next yr. So the earnings are the only hope until next yr.
I just want to pressure this management to start to keep us long term investors updated. Not from paid promoters. Most small companies I follow & invest keep the investors better informed with PRs. They did not inform us the day before the symbol change, did not give PR on when amended 10ks were submitted, no update on when the earnings are going to be releases or what is delaying them, no guidance on where the company wants to be in 6 mos & 1yr. The list goes on. Until it comes from the company not paid promoters they will never get the buyers needed to invest in the company. I am glad they are working hard on the business they just need to work a little harder in the PR area. It is obvious they have no control over Atoll. They cannot get them to release their earnings to them. This tells me NNRI is not in control of the situation. It appears Atoll has 100% control of the situation even if NNRI owns 50%. They need to explain why the delays. If the management is so good they could get the earnings out in a timely manner, if not then they need to explain. It is all about the earnings. Like I have been saying if management cannot get the earnings out within 45 days after the qtr then how do you think they can control this company. We will be getting earnings out when the 3rd qtr is over. If I was institutional investor would I invest if you cannot get earnings out.
Could you give us the link for this site. I find it interesting that the last two days Iceman & ST have not mentioned NNRI. I find this interesting. I wonder what it means???
Could it be the company has told them to be quiet?
Is good news coming and they need to look like they did not have inside information??
Are they done with the stocks?
I find this interesting that neither one has said anything about the stock in 2 days. It is like clock work that one of them say something about the stock everyday. Company been talking expert lawyers involved with SEC laws???
Your right it is a gamble but they have a great business model. Limited competition, high margin business, regulated for very few competitors, inside track to the gov't official decision makers, growth industrial that is already developed, industry now that has the environmentalist mostly on their side, growth that will last for next couple of decades and growing. The only real negative is if they can get the needed capital. I cannot find an early company with this growth and business model. It is the management does not communicate with their share holders. They use promoters and the market will not believe them it has to come from the horses mouth.
I guess I am a dumg investor but if management gets there act together I might be laughing to the bank along with the other promoters. I have called and complained many times to the company. I thing your right I should call them up and setup a meeting. Apparently they do not listen to people on phone calls. I guess the other couple people on this board I talk to privately should do that. I will see if they want to come along if so I will call for a meeting.
I have no lawyers. Example of poor management. They did not put out a PR on the symbol change, yah it was in a lightly put out months ago but a good company tells you a day before it done in a PR release. When the stock goes down no PR most come out with statement. ST is meeting with Sr people and is pumping us with stuff that is not coming. He has inside information and who knows who is benefitting from it. Iceman is pumping the hell out of the stock and like ST none of it has come true wth new contracts, earnings & etc. These guys are setting themselves up for a pssible lawsuit the longer this goes on. The management has a paid consultant that is pumping a stk when informatioon is not coming out. I would feel better if the management would make releases. Problem is now they have got themselves in a box. I have close to 100k of stk and have a loss. I am talking to others privately from this board and they are losing patience with the management. A couple will sell Oct 1st if now news comes out. If management cannot get earnings out within 45 days of the close of the qtr you begin to wonder about them. When 2 qtr comes out the 3rd qtr will be over. Sorry but this is poor manaqgement if they cannot do this. Oh yes they are not listed ya but maybe this is why. How can they be a billion
$ company and not get earnings out in a timely manner. Woiuld you what to invest in a company that cannot do that for the long term.
I am long send me your personal email and I will run off my statements and scratch out my vital information. I am long and have believed in this company but the longer management does not update the shareholders the more I lose faith in them. First off check with a SEC lawyer i think they will say the management is on shakey grounds. I would hate to see a law suite because I am long and it would just ruin my investment more. Unfortunately this management team is really bad about keeping the shareholders informed. I follow a lot of stocks and they at least inform you of what is going on.
So before you accuse me of being a short call me or email with your information and we will go over to Scottrade which better. Are you in SF area we can go to at least 2 offices and we can open up my many accounts. So get on the next plane and I will show you I am long. Please let me know now when you can come and review my many accounts at Scottrade or call the company they can look me up. I know the ST has my name and information and I believe he has already done it. It is obvious this management does not care to inform the shareholders I have expressed my views many times to their people and ST on the phone and emails. So let me know which plane you will be on to come out and look at my accounts. I have no tolerance for people accusing me of something when they do not have the facts. So give the flight #.
I think you might be right this management has set themselves up for a possible lawsuit because they have been looking the other way while consultants are trying to hold up the stock for their benefit and the 144s. Also it appears like too much insider information to just a few. The management better start giving equal updates to the shareholders. I wish there was a lawyer on this MB that could call the company and start to explain what they are doing is in the gray area and could be illegal. All of the paid consultants should have a very clear disclosure at the end of everything they write or say.
If this management team is so good I think they would be consulting a good legal team. Sorry to say but each day that goes on and the more talk from the consultants good things are coming and they just get pushed out the more I think I will dump my 100k of shares. Has the management and consultants looked at a calendar (I mean a English US one 2007) half of Sept is over and we have no news.
I agree. It is not very obvious on his site. He should put a link for it on every response he does on a MB. Also all of these promoters need to disclose all of their holdings in companies they are promoting. The number of shares and buying price to see their vested interest in the stock.
They have filed 4 amended 10Ks. The company never does a PR on this you have to look it up on the SEC site. I would think they would lets us know when they file. I have to learn these things from the MB. It would be nice to know if it is another amended 10k if so forget it being listed until next yr.
Is this a public document and if so where can I find it. If not I understand. ST told me he has bought shares like most of us around the $5 range. If he is a consultant I would think he needs to show all his purchases & sales of the stock.
On CNBC any analysis has to put up a disclosure statement on the scene. I sure think he needs to do that. It is all about credibility. What do you think. If the stock goes to 100 dollars that would make him 5M for peanuts. No wonder he polices the boards he has a vested interest. I guess I would do the same but I would be more forth coming. The Iceman is not but I am not sure since he bought his 1M shares through a third party ,I don't think they have any control on him.
This great information but it carries more credibility if it comes from the company. Also ECOL is trading for 20 times earnings. What is NNRI trading at @ 1/4 their pe. If the management would come out with updates then there might be a chance NNRI trades at a similar or higher multiple. ECOL does not have the depth that NNRI has but they sure have done better getting their story out to the investment community.
I agree but I need some help on doing it. I am in a little higher that what it is trading for. I should have sold some at 3.6 and bought back again.
I have talked to Todd the CFO mainly about the earnings. They always have a credible explanation for my questions. The problem is they do not convey it to their loyal shareholders and soon many will start to sell like me. Without any PRs especially the symbol change you have to begin to wonder who they are working for. Information is what keeps loyalty. Unfortunately they have violated that standard principle used in business. I am sure if they handle their customers and potential customers without any information like they do with the shareholders they would never get any business. So I just wonder who they are working for Iceman, ST and their buddies.It seems to me just a few are getting information on what is going on. I thought the SEC had corrected that situation years ago. Sorry I forgot this is a pk sheet stock. My patience is wearing out. I have expressed my views to them. I am glad you have done the same to the CEO. If they are not careful they could be setting themselves up for a legal suite. Insider information trading. Sorry but I am really getting tired of this management each day we get no news. I think 100k for sell in one trade would drop the stk like a rock. The longer I sit here waiting for news that never comes I lose out on other opportunities. I have to make a decision and it is coming shortly.
It seems the PR releases just keep getting pushed out. I just get the feeling certain people are trying to keep investors in the game so other things can be done. This company might have good management but their PR stinks. They do a terrible job keeping us abreast of what is going on. The longer this happens the more I am tempted to unload my large position and move on. This is dead money until we see some earnings from Atoll and see some contracts. I am getting the feeling we are getting strung along and will be taken for a ride.
Where is all that good news like earnings, contracts, and acquistions??? I wonder now if we will have to wait until Christmas for a present to the shareholders.
Doesn't the website show a 818 area code number?? If so it should work. Jim is on PST tim so I would call around 8 PST. Does the email there does not work?? Jim I think has another email from that one. He should give it to you. I did not write it down.
My understanding Atoll is going to release the 2nd qtr earnings and these will not be audited. NNRI will just refer to them as a divdend if I have it right. It looks like the 4th qtr will be when their US auditors that have Russian clearance will be able to audit the books for AToll and then consolidate them into NNRI. I am not an account so I might not be using the right terms. We just need a PR on new business and see the earnings of Atoll to see it growing significantly and still doing 26+% profits.
I talked to the company today and the person explained to me that when they changed the name they have to change the symbol. The company should have at least put out a PR release on the symbol change. This management just fuels the shorts by their poor PR to their investors.
On the shorts - Short Squeze shows some where around 350k. I have a hard time believing the Iceman's numbers in the millions more than the float. I read somewhere that some brokeage houses will allow 1.5 times what they have on hand to short. Even with this it is hard to believe the Short Squeeze is off more than 100%. I believe the 144s with 600-700k shorts is what has been driving the price down.
On the earnings it looks like it will be around the 4th qtr before Atoll numbers can be rolled into their consoliated balance sheet. It appears they have made progress on the auditors that can now go into ATOLL to do the NNRI's auditing.
On the earnings from Atoll it looks like it will take a little while longer do to the European summer shut down for the summer. They are still getting back from their vacations. Boy it must be nice to get 5 weeks vacation. This is some of the input I got from the company. I do believe this company has good mamagement but sh*tting PR.
What is the reason for the change and where is the PR for it??
Is it away to squeeze the shorts? I just cannot believe how badly the management keeps the shareholders in the dark. You begin to wonder what is going on. The last stock I owned that the management was quiet on and did not return calls tanked. So you can see why I am getting worried when ST & Iceman keep saying how reat the management and the company.
I am beginning to think it is time to sell ad move on.
Any thoughts
No but I am going to call their IR peron to see why this is not posted as a news release.
Also it would be nice to know the reason.
The lack of informing their shareholders is begining to make me question the management team. Their IR person stated they don't listen to the MBs. I can see why I have too because the management cannot keep their shareholders informed of anything. I think they could be setting themselves up for some legal problems down the road. With all of the paid hype and not informing the shareholders of what is going on I am now question if they can take this company to the next level.
The lack of informing their shareholders is begining to make me question the management team. Their IR person stated they don't listen to the MBs. I can see why I have too because the management cannot keep their shareholders informed of anything. I think they could be setting themselves up for some legal problems down the road. With all of the paid hype and not informing the shareholders of what is going on I am now question if they can take this company to the next level.
Lets hope this week they release some good news. I am hearing from different sources something should be coming shortly. One is a big contract has been won. I will believe when I see it and the other good news. Unless we get something soon this is dead money.
I am going to rent that movie. Like I say we have no Statesman in Congress anymore. This is leading us down the path of a second rate power.
I hope we get some news next week. I did talk to the IR person this week and he did indicate they were having meetings. Lets hope it is to finalize some business and then release good news to the investors. I did tell him investors are getting a little impatient with the management. We all need to call the company and express our views.