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Can someone (who hasn't done so already) email the CEO to get an updated O/S count? I've already done so 2 weeks ago and don't want to press him again. My concern is the O?S has is spiking with all this volume of late. IMO, trading 1/4 or even 1/3 of the current O/S just doesn't seem normal, but I welcome any feedback from those who agree/disagree.
Current holder of 4.6mil and locking these babies away.
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Taymor1989,
the 821 million, did you get that from the CEO and, if so, how far back in time did you learn of that number? TIA.
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Agree 100%, Tjx2. It's a shame a great product is going to end up going unrealized because of these db's running the show. I'm already down enough where it no longer makes sense to sell. Hope for the best is all we can do.
Agree that dilution occurred yesterday, but this was not the entire float. I took a poll a couple months back asking shareholders on this board willing to disclose current shares held at that moment. Received enough feedback where it added to up to around 55-60mil (and that's just from this board). IMO, my best guess is they are probably in the neighborhood of 120-130mil shares outstanding.
Simply put. This bottlerocket just needs the match to light it - which should come soon IMO. Can't wait to load more on Monday. Again, the key here is credibility with a major victory over a titan in Microsoft. You know those guys aren't used to losing.
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Thanks BLULLISH. As with any sub-penny, call it cautious optimism. But things do seem to be shaping up nicely here.
For me, I was reluctant due to getting caught up in the r/s last year going from 2mil to 2k. But it certainly appears they have their s&%t together now. Also doesn't hurt to be validated by a victory over a giant like MicroSoft. Looks like I'll be using some powder tomorrow.
Cheers,
Hello all. I see movement here and hence I have jumped back in, hopefully for a nice long haul. I also feel it's worth pointing out how nice it is to have a CEO respond to an email in a timely fashion. Something you just don't see much down in this realm.
Hopefully this will pop and pop hard!
GLTA
Does anyone here have the beat on the current share structure? TIA
Thanks for the info again, 1EYE. I was more curious on if they get a piece of the on-site cannabis sales.
Thanks 1EYE. I've been on the site and know of the 3 existing resorts thus far. Appreciate the pics.
Thanks for the response, Trill. With all due respect, pretty sad that you would assume what my intentions are based on my screen name which I chose out of humor. I bought in to this last summer with intentions of holding long because I was intrigued by the concept. Again, pretty sad to assume I'm here to flip based on my name alone. I'm pretty sure my post was to get feedback from others here from the questions I had because I don't claim to have the same stock trading pedigree as most others on here.
I, just like yourself, want this to go to the same place you are thinking of. I was simply seeking others input on the concern of the cannabis portion is all.
No need to paint me as something I am not. I am planning to buy more and hold.
First time poster on this board. I'm turning to people here that are way smarter than I to answer some questions about MJMJ.
When the new resort opens, does anyone know what each of the 56 daily guests will be charged per day? I'm trying to crunch numbers.
But this is the bigger aspect I'd like to know. This part of the latest PR, For legal purposes, a stay at Camp Bud+Breakfast includes everything except the cannabis itself. Guests who wish to buy marijuana can turn to the property’s cannabis concierge, who’ll provide a menu of recommended strains, plus suggested pairings with specific activities and meals. The retreat has exclusive partnerships with area dispensaries, which means guests enjoy special rates and private dispensary tours.
Do the sales of the on-site cannabis go to MJMJ or someone else (don't really like that last sentence above and hopefully I am just misinterpreting it)? I believe that to ultimately be whether MJMJ is a true game-changer or not. IMO, revenues simply from daily resort fees with a maximum of 56 guests per day don't seem to be enough to push this stock where we would all like it to be, given the current share structure.
Welcome all feedback.
Thanks.
DPG,
This company will never make money from it's products & never intended to.
To say they will never make money from it's products, I will take as your opinion.
To say they never intended to, I think the rest of us here would like to know how you have come across this wealth of what sounds like inside information. Please share how you apparently know this. Do you know the management on a personal or professional level? And they have conveyed this to you?
TIA,
A curious party
Librarian,
Couple of things. Where did you see that the a/s is dropping to 500mil? We know the o/s will be just under 50mil, but I haven't seen anything saying the company was dropping the a/s 10%. Please share, because if that's true, it will relieve me of my main worry about this stock moving forward which is the potential for more dilution on 50 mil o/s and 5bil a/s.
As far as the flavors are concerned, I believe you are half right. They do need at least 2 flavors to make an impact if they are to secure a contract or two with any of the big box stores, but if this stock has any chance of holding its pps post r/s, they need a pr that is iron clad stating proof of a formal agreement. These previous pr's are a nice little step in the right direction, but they are still little to this point. Gots to get multiple flavors on the shelves because customers like variety.
We will respectfully disagree on the flavor of the performance punch. I absolutely love the taste and, just as important, what it's doing for me post workout. I'm about 10 cases in so far and it's been well worth it, even it I weren't a shareholder. The recovery aspect is unbelievable!!
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Well, for what it's worth, VGTL seemed to still be a company at least as of January 19, 2016. That is the date that I emailed Malone-Bailey - the auditing firm listed in the September 8K from AA - directly and they confirmed that VGTL was still a client of theirs at that time. As expected, they did not offer up any other information about their dealings with VGTL other than confirmation of them as a client.
Exactly. You don't have any specific knowledge regarding AA. Thank you!
Then please humor me. What specific knowledge do you have about the inner workings of what she is currently allowed to do as it relates to vgtl? Do you have someone on the inside feeding you intel that AA simply doesn't care or something else along those lines? Please share. I think the supporters here would love to learn from someone who seems to have the inside track on what AA is allowed to do or say at this point in time.
Much appreciated Janice.
Janice,
And maybe you should try considering the very big possibility that she, along with anyone affiliated with VGTL, is under some kind of gag order until this Durante ordeal is put to rest. You made our point for us when you said the reasons were obvious as to why the SEC filings are not up to date.
All I'm asking of you is to be fair about things here which you clearly never have been. You have been dropping the hammer on AA ever since you came here and with no knowledge of what AA is/isn't permitted to do during this time period. Think about it. She doesn't have any responses to anyone if the subject matter is this company. Believe me, I have tried - even a simple question about her status. Do you actually think she enjoys fending off all these inquiries? Of course not. That's why, imo, I believe they have been ordered by a higher power to keep their traps shut. What I do know for fact is that VGTL is still a client of Malone Bailey auditing firm (at least as of 1/19/16)
Trust me, I don't like this at all, but this is my choice to stay in this thing until I hear something (who knows when that will be), and if I'm wrong, so be it. My life will move forward with/without this stock in my arsenal.
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Looking real good here, boys!
30 day average volume - 1.3mil
3 month average volume - 2.3mil
That minimal on a stock with 790mil O/S
Patience! Patience! Patience!
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That was a timing thing, Janice. I was in the midst of submitting my post before I was able to read your first response.
IMO, I seriously doubt the 2bil A/S claim. If it were, then there would most likely be at least 1bil O/S. The average volume just doesn't add up. It's been averaging about 1.3mil in volume over the the last 30 days and 850k over the last 3 months. And the only reason the average 30 day is 1.3 is because of the the day the Durante news broke and even then, to the best of my recollection, the volume for that day didn't surpass 4 million. If there ever were a day for a fire sale, it would have been then. Meanwhile, I've seen too many other pennies with around 2bil A/S (and roughly averaging 2/3 of that as O/S) averaging anywhere between 10-40mil in volume daily.
I'll ask again to those here who are much smarter than I. If they ever decide to raise the A/S, wouldn't that be deemed significant enough information where it would have to be made public knowledge through an 8-k or can they get around that because they are currently in a yield status?
Thanks,
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Thanks everyone for your replies. So the tough part to figure out is how much of the total O/S is retained by those that frequent this board (there are still a couple that I know of that did not respond). Let's assume this board is holding approx. 40-45mil. Would it be a fair guess to say the current O/S is probably at 90-100mil? I believe most of us here have been the ones taking out the weak hands.
Also, in response to the concern about the potential of the A/S being raised above the current 200mil, if the company were to raise the A/S, wouldn't that have be formally submitted and an 8-k filed or can they get away with not reporting that because they are currently in yield status on the OTC?
Thanks....and it's 200mil A/S, not 2 bil based on a 10q from Feb 2015, not a filing from 2002. Also, if you really want to analyze that document, one could argue the the A/S is only 10mil. That's what it says when the company changes it's name to VGTL in 2006. But hey, we all know that's inaccurate too.
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Can people here please answer me why there are so many of you here that wish this company/stock goes in the tank? Please help me understand and I'd appreciate some honesty. Is this actually a ruse on your part in order to get in hoping the stock drops 70-80% post r/s? Did y'all lose your butts on this and feel this is your way of getting even. Help a brother out here. While I understand everyone is entitled to an opinion here, this is just plain silly. Some positive news comes out and it looks like the goal here is to flood the board with negativity in hopes that people will see more bad than good. All IMHO.
SMH
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Yep. Just out of curiosity if those currently holding don't mind, I'd like to see a poll what people are currently holding to see where we are for O/S in relation to the last statement of O/S at 25+million. I feel it's more than that, but want to see.
I have 1.9mil.
Yeah. I thought it better to confirm directly from the source. I don't necessarily trust how up to date the OTC site is.
Not sure if anyone has posted this before, but I was able to confirm today with Malone-Bailey that.....
Hi
I received your question below. I can confirm that we are in fact the auditors of record for VGTel.
Regards,
100%, king. Her references in the video addressing the poster at that moment in regards to the subject of claims she's always on vacation are a direct response to several posts on this very message board (IHUB-VGTL). Unless someone else can provide data that she is/was the CEO of another publicly traded company back in mid-November, then I'm just going to simply add 2+2 here which equals VGTL.
All IMHO
Appreciate the link and DD, Robert. It shows actual substance of what could be in the works, as opposed to this one...
cadillac48 Friday, 01/08/16 12:09:16 PM
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It's about time! Big pr coming Monday according to my sources!
IMO, if PR's come out that time them with the R/S, the subject matter better be about official distribution agreements with several popular brick and mortar stores and the release of the other flavors or we're going to take a big hit here.
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Not bashing as I am in this thing big with most of you here....no offense Caddy, but you claimed to have a source that there was going to be this great PR coming this past Monday, but low and behold there was nothing. I hope you're right, but at this point, why should anyone believe your posts? Can anyone else back up these responses from Joe? Robert? Nut?
Thanks.
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And the A/S is 200mil as of that Feb. 2015 10Q, not 2bil.
You have to take flyers fans with a grain of salt, JBG.
flaflyer, if you know it to be 2 bil., please cite your source.
Thanks .
Agreed, king. IMO, she, along with other aspects of the company, has most likely been instructed (maybe by legal team) not to discuss VGTL at this time due to the current investigation involving those D-bags. So this leaves everyone with 2 schools of thought. If you are here because of her and your faith in how she operates, then stay, quit whining, and also load up while it's dirt cheap. If you're losing faith in her, please sell your weak hand to me and leave - no hard feelings.
Just know that AA has made mention that she will release news when she is "allowed" to (playing by the rules of the game is what I believe she stated). That quote came out before the announcement of that D-bag Durante ripping off people. After that announcement, I believe they are and will continue to be even more tight-lipped, and when I say they, I'm referring to the IR as well (despite our frustration). I would rather have her make a real announcement when the time is right and she is allowed versus putting out a half-assed PR just to drive the PPS back to .006 so the flippers can dump. I'm here to swing for the fences.
GLTA and thank you for the 350k at .0030 today.
Again, all IMHO.
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How's that source working out for you? Weren't we supposed to hear something yesterday?
I'm with you on all of this, ranger with one exception. I don't believe we are going to hear anything until after this investigation has concluded. That's not to say that AA doesn't have something seriously brewing at this point. I just feel if I'm the company on the other end of this potential massive merger, I personally would more than likely wait until the dust settles - sort of speak - as a precaution. I also hope I'm dead wrong with that assessment which I would have no problem with. In the meantime, I, like you, will take advantage of any dips to load some more. They will be available because I've seen far too many people panic prematurely and surrender their weak hands. They just need to be scooped up by the strong hands.
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Love the "volume" today. 34 on the bid-hahaha - nice try. Lots of strong hands here boys and girls. Peeps will start chasing soon.
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Agreed, Ranger. Most of the articles about the CES reference 4K as being in the top 3 for hottest subject matters for 2016. And newsflash people. AA will not be putting out anything until this investigation is over, IMO. And I doubt other businesses will be striking a deal with VGTL until this investigation is over and I get that. Fine by me. I'm patient. I know what, and more importantly, who I have here. Looks like people are starting to show their weak hands. That's fine too. It's your decision. I and I'm sure ranger and Jonny will be waiting to gobble them up from yous.
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On the contrary, Johnny. IMO, these are calculated posts done to get a rise out of others. It's hilarious! I personally could care less if AA referred to us as minions (even though she wouldn't) because this is strictly business. We are here because of AA and her history of making herself and shareholders tons of scratch. IMO, this will be a merger/buyout and I'm willing to be very patient as she will due her DD to make the most of it. The reason I feel this way is because she has not removed the interim tag and made it official that she will be the CEO for a long period of time. My read on this is I'm not worried at all about it. AA will utilize her smarts and resources to get VGTL gobbled up by a heavy hitter. I just hope it happens this year.
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Respectfully CSM, it is not in anyone's best interest to inform us of what retailers they are with if they don't have anything currently nailed down. I don't find it wise for them to put out a PR saying something along the lines of them being in "discussion" with certain stores. That just creates false hope and a lot more ridiculous posts on this board. I would rather them get to work and when they have official contracts, then spring the news. Unfortunately, that may take some time that you seem to not have. IMO, it looks like you'll be moving on come mid-January because I don't expect distribution news that soon. I hope I am wrong though.
Any shares that go into the hands of longs is obviously a good thing. We need the distribution, plain and simple or this goes nowhere. The only other thing that may give this a mini spike is signing a top tier athlete, but as I've witnessed in another similar stock, the recognition of a top flight celebrity/athlete is short-lived and at the end of the day it boils down to sales.
I agree Kappin, except it may take a while to get out of trips because this could be flip city. Unfortunately, the strong hands that are holding here probably aren't the majority. We'll get there, though. Patience along with distribution news is what sends this baby up.