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Well then let's just watch and wait and see what happens. If you think about it, it would appear that the stock moves very easily. That does indicate a very low float as the company has published in the 10k.
Then add in all those who have bought and are holding. If everyone had at least 250k, then you could say the float is very small. Add in enough interest, then the stock would start to move up and people would see it going forward. IF enough people were to come in and start buying I think you would see a sharp rise. As we have seen if it trickles in, it does not move much, but when there are several buyers at the same time, it goes up a lot. You choose.
TMSH - OTCQB Now isn't that something? I think so. A fully reporting company.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/tmsh/quote
Here the company has pointed out the share structure which is amazing to me because it shows such a small Float that the stock could possibly run up very fast and to much higher levels than it has before.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=7701552
Authorized Shares 175,000,000
Outstanding Shares 82,517,000
Restricted Shares 71,658,626
Free Trading Shares = FLOAT 10,858,374
I also noted how the company's losses were twisted into statements of Debt. They are not debt, they are losses. Big difference. Keep the facts straight.
Also the company debt which was picked up by the new BOD of TMSH is One Hundred Thirty Five Thousand (135,000) Dollars of accrued payables and Five Hundred Forty Seven Thousand Three Twenty Four (547,324) Dollars of accrued short term notes.
For those who cannot add, it is $682,324 dollars in debt. That is nothing in the main stream of things and can be wiped out with any of the income from the projects on hand. I would guess by the end of the second quarter the company will be in the positive with no debt to speak of.
Here they are in the process of acquiring a very new and upscale Hotel, the Dimyat named after a Grape used for making a sought after wine in Bulgaria. "Grand Hotel Dimyat, located on the northern Bulgarian coast of the Black Sea in Varna, Bulgaria."
Another notable fact is the Seller agreeing that the stock has a value of $1 per share. That is significant because the seller feels the company and the company stock is undervalued. That is a huge statement. "Pursuant to the purchase agreement, the Seller has agreed to accept the current value of the shares at $1 USD per share." Yet another undisputable fact.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/TimeShare-Holdings-Inc-Signs-iw-3481874614.html?x=0&.v=1
Notice how pre-market one of the MMs buys 10,000 shares at .35 and yet immediately after the market opens we see two market makers at .30, CSTI and ETMM. Well we know who that is, obviously the people who shorted the stock. They do not want the stock to go higher, why, because if you do your calculations which two long term IHUB people have shown me how to calculate, the squeeze trigger price is .32 average. Of course they are going to put in sell points there. But they are insignificant to the real picture here and will be squashed like the tiny bugs they are.
What I find interesting is that no matter what the company does, there are statements made by the same individuals over and over which have no meaning or bearing on the truth about this company or the stock. And then they copy and paste the very words that we speak then make an irrelevant statement about that. Does it not seem odd that each PR, which seems to make a truthful and factual statement, and which is always backed up by an 8K with more factual information, that there seems to be an agenda here. Only when the stock starts going up are the statements made to twist the facts presented. Is it illegal to twist the truth.
Here the company has pointed out the share structure which clearly shows that there are only 10,858,374 shares to trade and most of those are being held by the long term investors. I would guess that there are only about 2 to 3 million shares actually available if that.
I think that TMSH has been an upstanding company keeping the investors informed of their activities and has provided verifiable information all along much to the consternation of the shorts who have nothing of any real at all to say. This is IMHO a good investment and a long term investment.
I was told that there was a list showing the changes the day before it would change. That is the link that I was looking for. Thank you.
You make me laugh, but you could be right too. Could someone please tell me where I would be able to see the TMSH ticker change from Pink Sheets Limited Information to OTCQB. Thank you.
This may be a silly question, but where do I go to see when the symbol for TMSH will change from the Pink Sheets Limited information to the OTCQB. Thank you.
IREP I mentioned last week and it seems to move very quickly. I also think that there is a R/M that may be going on. I cannot find any information, but with the level 2 showing .0099, .01, then $1.78, something is happening there. Any ideas? Thank you.
IREP, question, I saw this one running and I was wondering if there was a reverse merger going on that is making it run. The stock was just at $2.00 last year and now down here. The next leg up according to filling a cup is .12 then .185. I also noticed that there are two Market Makers sitting with sells at $1.78. Is this significant? Have you ever seen a stock run from sub pennies to the $$$ before? Thank you.
This is the chart, I had someone explain how you were able to load the charts, very neat.
It seems we have equal positives and negatives here and if the AMEX approves the continued listing then I think you are right that this will double. I will set alerts to watch for that.
And the sales potential from the Onko-Sure is more than I thought it would be. Could this reach the most recent high of
Has anyone seen this? I just saw it when looking at the various Hotels and Resorts in Varna and there are more in St. Constatine and Helena just down the coast in line with Golden Sands Resorts.
http://www.balkans.com/open-news.php?uniquenumber=91850
http://newsblaze.com/story/2011020107001300012.mwir/topstory.html
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g295392-d1563769-r81872458-Grand_Hotel_Dimyat-Varna_Varna.html
http://www.visitbulgaria.net/en/varna/hotels/dimyat_grand_hotel.html
I have discovered that this is one of the main tourist places for Europeans. It seems like this again has very good potential and I think when they close the deal and the first summer goes by and we see the revenue numbers we will start to see the potential here.
Does anyone have any idea what the normal revenue would be for a Hotel of this nature in the same climate on yearly basis would be? I am trying to figure out how to search for that information. Thank you.
In reading the Press Release, there seems to be many things in a very positive nature in regards to what the possibilities are.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=59396734
My questions are these.
1) With the two spinoffs, I am not clear as to whether they will be publically traded, will they be?
2) With the new investors and the statement that the new investors are not worried about the AMEX situation, shouldn't the stock on that note alone be moving over the $2 range based on the revenue potential and the low O/S and Float? Thank you.
3) And this statement is huge IMHO, ""As we stated in the press release, this gives us the capital that we need to start seriously commercializing our early cancer diagnostics test, Onko-Sure,".
There seems to be amazing potential here yet the stock does not reflect that and I am trying to understand the aspects as to why it is not moving up? Thank you.
I am of the same thought there as well in one of my other posts. Does this not increase the value twice as much if this was a construction appraisal as the other poster stated and now we add in all of the items you listed? Thank you. IMHO it would seem that the value is greater than the $45M, possibly to the $50M to $52M range when adding in the land, correct?
That is the same observation that I had as well. We do not know why the Seller is selling at that price, but it happens all the time in the industry and when any economy is down that is when smart business investors by the diamonds in the ruff and this company seems to be smart enough to go after the deals that they can get good results from their investments. And the $1 value like I also noticed is a nice plus for the company providing an instant realized value of $10M dollars to the company. Then add in the $15M in asset value, would that not equate to a $25M dollar gain for the company?
Yes, but the real value would be more than what a construction loan value would be. I am now realizing from that statement made by the other poster that the company is more business savvy than I first realized and they are purchasing this property undervalued and gaining the $15M in instant asset value. Adding that to their books is a real plus for the company and the shareholders like us.
A value of $32M Euro with a value of $45M US is huge IMHO. Shouldn't the stock price be at the $1 value since that was accepted by the Seller for the overall value of the stock?
Would this not mean that the company could make a move to the NASDAQ quickly once they meet that $4 dollar value?
I am now wondering if they have branched out to the Hotel business, would they not already have others in the queue? They have surprised me with the recent update. I was thinking it would be on the power project so we still have that update coming as well. This could be bigger than I was first thinking. Wonder what the next surprise will be as the company has alluded to in their Press Release.
What I find interesting is a focus on all the things that have no bearing on the 5 Star Hotel as is stated in the assessment. Which is a fair assessment of the Hotel, it was not an assessment that gave an unreasonable value and it is a serious asset and the company will realize $15M in real value once the purchase is completed. That is a great step in the right direction.
And that assessment is proof of what is called the Fair Market Value. From some of the statements on this board, it is clear that these people no nothing about business which they lose all credibility and any statement made about the company's business has no bearing from the facts that the 8ks provide to what the company is focused on.
I would wonder if the company could get financing as well, but when you think about it, why publish information on a business deal if you did not already have the financing in place. Too risky IMO.
I am glad that my viewpoints are always on a positive note because I feel the company is focused on business and not the opinions of people on this board. And I joined IHUB on a recommendation that this was a good place to learn and meet professionals. Well they were right on one of those, learning. Good Luck with your trades.
Okay I did not catch that before, on the part you quoted, the company is buying the Hotel for $28M but it is worth $43.8M. Now does that mean that the company will have a gain of $15.8M in value once the deal is completed?
And how do we see the valuation by this company, Velinov Consult Ltd? Do you know where to see that? Thank you.
Well this is certainly not what I was expecting on news, but I have to say this is a very pleasant surprise. The company is definitely branching out and when they stated that we would be astounded, they were correct.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/TimeShare-Holdings-Inc-Signs-iw-3481874614.html?x=0&.v=1
The Company will be providing a down payment of 10 million shares of TMSH common stock, which will be restricted for a period of one (1) year per the agreement. Pursuant to the purchase agreement, the Seller has agreed to accept the current value of the shares at $1 USD per share. The $10M value will be applied to the total purchase price of the $28M.
The statement above IMHO puts a value of $1.00 on TMSH stock no matter what the Market Makers want it to be or say.
I expect this to take off soon enough and I am would not be surprised if the Market Makers were not on the phone talking to each other now asking for support from each other to keep it low so they do not get burned. But if the stock does not start moving up I am going to file a complaint with FINRA for Market Manipulation which we saw to sells go through below the BID trying to scare investors into selling.
Thank you for that lengthy explanation, essentially what I was told is correct and we then have a very large short position in the stock.
Then I would assume with any news this week we could start to see a short squeeze, correct? Thank you.
Any idea how high the stock could go on a short squeeze from here? Thank you.
Okay, I have a question to make sure I understand this.
This is the regsho for last Friday per the person at FINRA who told me how to get the information. It took me three phone calls to get the information, this was not easy, they seem to not want to let people know the truth about how many shares have been shorted, strange.
20110128|TMSH|232506|459093|O
This shows that 50.6% was shorted last Friday out of the total trades of 459,093. The FINRA person confirmed that this is the amount of shares shorted and that the short position had to be covered in P+3 days. I did not understand the explanation on this, it was confusing, too many numbers at one time.
Now bear with me on this, again I am learning and I have had a couple of people tell me that you cannot use those numbers, "call FINRA and they will tell you those numbers are inacurate. When I called FINRA I was told those numbers were accurate." Again more confusion. I think I will believe FINRA over people on IHUB at this point. After all FINRA would know how their system works.
I aksed why the Market Makers short so much every day, it did not make sense to me. It was explained to me by the person that I spoke with at FINRA that it does not mean that a Market Maker shorted the stock intentionally, or that even the Market Maker shorted the stock that it could be individuals shorted the stock, but most penny stocks are shorted on a daily basis because of the volatility. I was told that if the Market Maker did not have any shares that it would borrow shares to fill the order. That creates a short position. And when we see that many shares at the end of the day shorted, that it is cumulative.
It was also explained to me that if there continued to be a shortage of shares that and they were not covered within 13 days, that the number of shares that were not delivered would become Fails. And that there was a website that contained the Failed Shares information.
Does anyone have that website information. Thank you.
Here is what I have so far based on how much we have traded. Also the number of shares showing at FINRA seems to be always less than the number of shares that I see on the watchlist at the end of the day of each trading day. Does that make sense that they would be different? Does anyone know why they are always different?
January
DATE SYMBOL Short Sales Total Volume % SHORT
1/27/2011 TMSH 313,592 608,807 52%
1/26/2011 TMSH 127,035 309,179 41%
1/25/2011 TMSH 115,023 205,293 56%
1/24/2011 TMSH 57,000 77,000 74%
1/21/2011 TMSH 107,200 126,600 85%
1/20/2011 TMSH 22,000 34,887 63%
1/19/2011 TMSH 42,510 94,490 45%
1/18/2011 TMSH 132,500 251,496 53%
1/14/2011 TMSH 67,000 100,000 67%
1/13/2011 TMSH 43,520 61,220 71%
1/12/2011 TMSH 10,000 10,000 100%
1/11/2011 TMSH 142,308 271,521 52%
1/10/2011 TMSH 59,225 132,661 45%
1/7/2011 TMSH 199,931 311,900 64%
1/6/2011 TMSH 116,670 403,157 29%
1/5/2011 TMSH 50,307 210,727 24%
1/4/2011 TMSH 396,467 842,102 47%
1/3/2011 TMSH 213,998 668,071 32%
TOTALS 2,216,286 4,719,111 47%
December
DATE SYMBOL Short Sales Total Volume % SHORT
12/31/2011 TMSH 105,107 388,882 27%
12/30/2011 TMSH 428,064 695,380 62%
12/29/2011 TMSH 303,901 538,865 56%
12/28/2011 TMSH 373,843 1,270,958 29%
12/27/2011 TMSH 393,019 1,128,840 35%
12/23/2011 TMSH 381,968 1,659,448 23%
12/22/2011 TMSH 933,314 3,671,159 25%
12/21/2011 TMSH 986,866 2,814,276 35%
TOTALS 3,906,082 12,167,808 32%
Also I asked the FINRA person what happens when the shares go to the Fails list? I was told that the company, who the Fails have occurred against, could request a fill by the Market Makers to close out the Fails. I asked what would happen if the company requested that, the FINRA person said that usually there would be Short Squeeze on the stock until all the shares are covered. I asked specifically about TMSH and the answer I received is that there are Fails but they will not show for a couple of more weeks due to the lag in the share accounting through the ETC. Does anyone know what the ETC is?
They were providing a lot of information that I did not understand and when I asked for clarification they asked me to wait while they made notes in the system about TMSH for the number of shares that were currently Fails. But would not provide me that information. I am again confused, if the information is in their system, why can we not see it. Why is it delayed 2 weeks? Does anyone know? Where can we get the Fails information? Thank you.
No, I was only able to get 6300 shares so far and now they moved the BID to .365 and my BUY for the remaining 2300 are still there and BUYs are going through at .40. Very strange and they held my order for 8 minutes before giving me shares.
I was hoping we would break .52 today. Would the stock run up to .75 today if we broke the .52? I do not see any resistance between .52 and .75. Thank you.
I have a buy in for 10,000 shares at .37 and not getting filled and 25,000 shares goes through at .35 below the BID. Is that legal?
Can the Market Makers actually sell shares lower than the current BID? Thank you.
Lmcat, after going back and reviewing the information, there were no false claims that I could see, as much as things expired and the websites that contained the links and information that did not belong to GRES. Am I missing something there?
I am not sure why you keep bringing up the old issues and information that related to GRES. Please remember this is TMSH, not the same company.
You know the stock, you are in it, so are you saying that it will go to that value once that information comes out? That is what I am trying to understand is how that works.
MR. Bizzy I heard an interesting bit of information. If a company's stock let's say is at $0.40, and signs a contract to purchase or acquire certain assets and pays a portion of the acquisition funds with stock, and the seller accepts the stock at a higher level, let's say in the range of $2, would the stock then have a value of $2? Thank you.
I believe they are shorting more to average down their short the same way we as longs average down when buying higher. Once we close the Gap, then I think we will see a huge run up to $28 or higher. I think that because the shorts will be in a better position to cover without huge losses. At least that is what I would do.
I am learning how to trade these stocks but my answer would be A. To me the pattern seems to follow that there is a short squeeze.
But the shorts have come back and shorted more in an attempt to bring the price back down to levels where they can try to cover at a lower cost.
I saw there was a gap up so I would also assume the MMs will try to close the Gap, which the shorts are probably counting on.
Then I think that it could go back to $19.57 if the shorts and the MMs push it down there. But I see a big problem with that.
If the stock were to drop that low, they would end up with I think an even heavier buying frenzy than before, so the compromise would be $20.18 for the low then off to $28 area IMHO.
Does that make sense? Thank you.
Your wish is my command. Ha Ha. What time would you like the news to come out? Ha Ha
It is very irritating, I like to get my way all the time.
Well I guess if they will not sell to me then I will sit here and wait till next week when this goes over $1.00 so that I can make my profit and be happy.
I like that there will be several news items coming out over the next few weeks. And one of the emails from Mr. Sonavane made it very clear that both he and TMSH had another project in the works, but much larger than the pilot project.
I just have to be patient, I guess.
I cancelled my buy order, this takes too long. I just do not understand why the MMs are not allowing trades to go through. Is there an issue for not filling people's orders? How is it that the MMs can pick and choose trades?
Okay I will but I did just get 10,000 of the 50,000 I am trying to buy at .26.
Nice, pimping I do not understand why my buys are not going through on TMSH, why are they not allowing my buys to go through?
The buys I have in are not going through. Why does it take so long when I am only buying 50k at .26? Thank you.
GBOE & BGOI,
Pimping what do you know about the rumors on GBOE going to $5 to $20 per share from some type of lawsuit with Scottrade?
Also, why are you saying to load BGOI. Thank you.
Well you certainly have a way with words, I will give you that.
And I think you could be on to something there. Are you thinking we will hit .50 tomorrow? Thank you.
Hmmm, donkey kong what a funny game that was. Well I feel that something was certainly happening yesterday and that was why I was trying to find out if I should have bought more yesterday. Now I wish I had because I am now having to buy at .22 and .24. Very sad now.
I agree that caught my eye as well. I wonder how many things they have to that will astound us. Sounds fun.
I am okay with a little buzz, but I am more interested when we see the project information. Getting that kind of information will be very telling of where the company is headed which I feel will be very good for us shareholders over the coming weeks and months.
Did anyone notice the following items in the TMSH Press Release.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/TimeShare-Holdings-Inc-iw-748067300.html?x=0&.v=1
"We are very excited and proud of the scale, diversity, and financial significance of the ventures at hand we believe our shareholders will be positively astounded once they are announced," states Paul Thompson, Vice President Investor Relations.
The provided the address which I think is a new address because I do not remember seeing that address before. They also mention the proxy vote which means the company wants a share count of the shares out there by the shareholders themselves.
Also from what I have been reading, a Cusip change will require a share count if I am not mistaken, that could mean a any shares shorted would have to be covered before then. Is this correct?
And the best part is next week we will start seeing more information. This is very exciting to me.