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2 Failed Rallies NO NEW PR going DOWN
Last support levels about to break down.
And the "guru" poster who will remain nameless, is Nowhere to be found.
Are the "guru" and his defensive friends laughing at YOU all the way to the bank?
You decide.
It's a shame, really. ATWT seemed to have so much going for it.
But how can the Market trust anything about this company RIGHT NOW!
It was post # 10013 8/4/2006
The header reads "Thanks for the backhanded compliment"
It's at the bottom of the page after P.S.
But......do you really care?
I doubt it. I think you just want to attack me. That's ok.
The TRUTH hurts.
By the way, WHERE IS VLF?
The post was quickly deleted just after I read it the second time.
I knew some of you guys would say that. That's why it was deleted.
Complete denial. That's ok, I know what I saw. He said he didn't think it could break .0055, then he said " I'm out" I read it twice, and it was posted by VLF. It was deleted just a few moments later.
I even brought it to his attention in a later post. Of course he never responded.
ATWT PumpNdump by VLF and friends?
I don't know. You decide.
I first saw ATWT, and got in, on the price spike up to .0042 .
I watched it Pullback to .0025 then settle in the .003 area.
When I saw the constant Pumping on this Board, I first dismissed it as overly excited shareholders. After all, ATWT had sold off horribly, then positive "turnaround" News had come out, which would give anyone who had held this stock, good reasons to be optimistic.
As I watched the Rally begin, it began to weaken at the .0055 area. I read a post by VLF that said "I don't think it can break through .0055 I'm out."
When I saw that post, it seemed to confirm what I was seeing. I re-read the post once again. Hey, this was the ATWT "main man" and an assistant on the ATWT board who sold, so I sold at .005 .
When I went to look for responses to the VLF "I'm out" post, I found that it had been deleted. I got a lttle pissed as I watched ATWT close at the high of the day. I later figured the deleted message was meant to be private, not public. When he realised his mistake, he simply deleted the post.
I have seen many posts which questioned ATWT or it's Pumpers simply deleted. Why? You decide.
I was suspicious of this Board, and missed the Big Rally. But looking back on it, I'm glad. I probably would have believed the Pumpers and kept buying all the way up. Just like they claimed to be doing. Just like many of YOU did. Maybe I could have gotten out with a much bigger profit. But maybe not!
Pumpers know you won't call the company to verify anything they say. Most people don't have the free time during business hours, or simply don't know what questions to ask.
So what do the Pumpers say after they dump their shares?
They will blame it all on YOU! "Hey, you should do your own DD", "It's YOUR fault you didn't take profits", "You just don't know how to trade the pennies, get lost", "Nobody told you to do anything", etc.
Where is VLF? Maybe under another ID defending himself. Who might THAT be?
It really doesn't matter, YOU GOT SCAMMED!
A "classic PUMP n DUMP".
That's not to say that ATWT isn't a good company. Just maybe not as good as you have been lead to believe.
NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU READ ON AN ANONYMOUS MESSAGE BOARD
Best of Luck to ALL (who deserve it).
STTC going UP and YOU can't stop it!
NO.....YOU can't!
STTC close at High Of The Day!
Oh Yeah! It can do it.
Tomorrow, next leg UP!
Why?
It's a good company.
STTC I'm in let's GOOOOOOO
UP, that is!
True, the P&D (pump 'n dump) scenario is probably correct. It also gave some existing shareholders a way to take some profits way ahead of the test results.
The GOOD news about the P&D thing, is that it shows the potential of what can happen when the test results are finalized, and acually released.
If CFRI can do that well on a simple P&D, imagine what the PPS will be when REAL orders for this product start pouring in!
We now have a reference point on the Chart history, to guide the Market when the REAL excitement takes place.
CFRI looks like a classic Sleeper Stock
A boring company in a boring sector developing a boring product. It ain't no high-tech mobile phone or I-pod, so there is very little PR news released to excited columnists in fancy magazines.
But what makes this company boring, also makes it easy to understand. It's a very straightforward and simple company. You don't really need a science or engineering degree to understand how containers work.
It's also simple to understand that CFRI developed a new shipping container product that is cheaper, lighter, safer, and stronger than anything else used up until now.
It's kinda like the guy who invented (and patented) the little plastic center support that is put in most of the pizza boxes, so the top/center of the box doesn't crush down and stick to the pizza. The guy is filthy rich today.
Just think of how many of these new shipping containers will be sold! As well as retrofitting old ones!
We will be able to buy all the pizza we want pretty soon! LOL
P.S. I'm sure, at the beginning, Bill Gates and his "nerdy" little software ideas were also considered pretty boring at the time.
When the News is released about testing completion
It will be hard to accumulate any more shares at these cheap prices. I'm hoping I can grab a few more shares before a Big Run begins.
This stock was trading in the Dollars just a few months ago.
From what I understand, the only reason that this stock sold off in the first place, is because of a major shareholder (or group of shareholders) that sold to raise money for reasons unrelated to CFRI itself. Appearantly they didn't have time to wait for the final results of the testing, and needed their funds immediately.
I bet a lot of that money returns when the tests are complete, especially when multiple orders for the shipping containers start rolling in.
The ENTIRE Worldwide Shipping Industry is CFRI's Market!
Thank you very much.
Like I said, It's not easy to be out of a stock that closes near it's high. But I have to stick to my trading rules/disciplines even if my emotions tell me otherwise.
I'm not a subscriber (money is tight right now) so I only have a few posts left, but I had to thank you for your understanding and positive post.
May your reality become better than your most favorite dreams!
Thanks for the backhanded compliment.
I'm used to posting on the Yahoo message Boards where the posters are more aggresive with their responses.
I'm not used to a message board where Bashers or Pumpers are not able to take control of the board. I'll have to relearn the proper way to post and express myself on a Board where people try to respect one another. Bad habits are sometimes hard to break. I'll try to do better in the future. But I am who I am.
This is not really the proper forum for discussing other stocks, but if you're interested in a stock pick similar (in some ways) to ATWT, look at CFRI. A simple, easy to understand company with a niche product that is in the final testing stage, and about to be sold Worldwide. It's kind of a sleeper stock. Low trading Volume since a Big Selloff by a major shareholder who needed funds for reasons unrelated to the company itself. It may be a good one to accumulate. Updated news is expected sometime this month.
P.S what was the deal with that post of yours (?) where you sold because ATWT couldn't break .0055 ?
Thanks for your advice. I'm sure you only wish the best for me. :)
It's not easy to be out of a stock that has closed near it's high!
Unfortunatly for me, I'm forced to trade in and out of stocks right now because of my current financial situation. To be more specific, I can afford to miss out on some profits, but I can't afford to lose any money right now. I hope you are able to understand.
I am forced to take on more risk of missing out on profit than I would like to.
You are fortunate that you can afford to hold a winner like ATWT.
Best of luck to ALL who can afford to hold!
Resistance at 200MA (.0058area) Pullback to 100MA (.0041area)
Of course, many of you don't want to look at this (you know who you are).
Maybe the Market won't either. In which case, ATWT may hit .006 or higher before the Pullback. If the Market is still excited about ATWT during the Pullback, then it may not go all the way down to the .004 area either. It could also be slightly more severe on the Pullback if prospective New Buyers wait on the sidelines for the best price.
No stock goes straight up, especially after 70%+ gain in one day! You should realize that some of the expected News has just been priced in.
However, if you can afford to HOLD (you don't need the money soon), you should HOLD, or buy more on the Pullback, which I think will be relatively quick.
The main thing to remember is that the Rally from the Bottom is still intact and gaining Upward Momentum.
Of course, PR News can can change everything (good or bad). Then the "card deck" is "reshuffled" and the Market (ALL those who buy/sell ATWT) will decide how the new "EVENT" will Value ATWT in the future.
Go ahead.......bash and flame me if you wish. You're just words on a computer screen. It's the MARKET reaction that concerns me.
Best of Luck to ALL who deserve it!
P.S. discloser: I bought last week at .0041, and took profits (sold) today at .005 .
I'm thinking the same thing .004 or less
We'll see. Getting back in at anything less than .005 will fine with me. Lets see how far this Pullback goes.
I don't think it will last long.
Thanks, I wish I could afford to hold
But my trading rules and present financial situation won't allow it.
Some day when I get rich like YOU guys, I can hold longer.
It's hard to be out of this stock right now, even for a very short time. Hopefully I will be back in very soon with more shares tied up against the float.
Took profits at .005 will buy back cheaper
I ain't gonna get trapped THIS time.
Sorry, but I just want MORE shares. If I'm wrong, I pay more to get back in.
Sleeping Giant is awake and hungry for $
metropick, please accept my apology. You were absolutly correct about the support at .003 .
While I still disagree that Down is good, I understand your point. Down for a brief period ain't so bad.
I first found this stock on the pop to .0042 and thought I was lucky to get in with such high Volume from the bottom on a company just off it's low with "turnaround" News.
I got in at .0041 and watched it immediatly go down to .0025, so I hope you can understand my concerns that I might have been a victim of a "Suckers Rally" Pump 'n Dump. Reading overly optimistic posts when a stock is going down can be aggravating when your at a temporary loss.
My apologies again to the Board for my inappropriate expressions of concern.
" a few short months ago there was basically no communication with management."
"...90% of traders here, were not here 4 months ago."
With all due respect, I think that because of those two statements you just made, people damn well BETTER be skeptical. The market sure is.
I'm expecting you don't want to insist that people on this board only discuss the positive possibilities. If so, then much more harm can be done by the higher expectations that can't be met. This causes the impatience you mentioned.
When people constantly get "hyped up" and nothing happens, many people start to doubt, become negative, get angry, express it on this message board, and then some may even sell in frustration.
While I would mostly prefer a positive outlook in any conversation. If everybody here decides to never discuss the negative possibilities of ATWT here, then WHERE will they EVER be discussed?
I think ATWT can withstand the scrutiny. As long as it's not mindless bashing.
I would rather have an honest discussion of both good and bad posibilities, and be pleasantly surprised. Rather than only discuss how great the company is and be constantly disappointed.
We all need to be careful about putting people into our own convenient negative catagories. Others may decide to put YOU in a catagory that may not be accurate.
Thanks again for your posts.
P.S. Aren't YOU just whining about other people who whine? LOL
I greatly appreciate both your factual and opinionated posts.
I agree. The PR was very positive. So far Mr. Wiley has been doing/saying the right things as far as we can tell.
But just to play "devil's advocate" for a moment so we don't fall in love with this stock, Of course he's gonna say he cares about the shareholders. They ALL say that.
Did anyone expect him to say " I don't give a damn about the shareholders. We really just needed their financing money to grow the company so WE could become rich".
LOL
You claim to have spoken to him personally, and you are convinced of his sincerity. From reading some of your posts, I'm convinced of YOUR sincerity. However, to the Market, both of you are total strangers. The Market will need confirmation. I also look forward to seeing that confirmation soon.
Thanks again for your informative posts!
The Rally from the bottom is still intact.
Right NOW.
But we need to get above .004 this week for the trend to continue up.
If not, we may level off to a Trading Range until News. The Trader/Accumulators would be happy with that, I'm sure.
Or worse yet, the Rally starts to break down and test support in the high 2's, then low 2's, or all the way down again to retest the bottom.
Of course, nobody knows what will happen. But my gut tells me (also the Chart/Volume) that most big Sellers have sold, and many fresh new Buyers are now holding shares. Since the recent PR's show progress, I think we will continue up.
Just my "newbie", "unexperienced", "unprofessional", "amateur", "unsolicitated", "unwanted" opinion.
Let's just hope new support is .004 soon.
Or higher!
My appologies to the Board for expressing my discontent in an inappropriate way.
Thaks for a somewhat civil post.
It's my opinion that the support at .003 is not excellent, nor is the fact that it was retesting that area once again.
For this opinion, I was attacked.
Because I tried to clarify my point you now accuse me of going on a tirade, another attack.
Appearantly, this message board is only friendly if you ALWAYS agree with EVERYTHING that is posted.
you are trying to twist my words.
Another childish insult.
I never said that stocks never go down.
I said when they do, It's not "excellent", as a poster said earlier in denial.
Say what you want. Down is not excellent.
Still more childish insults
I guess you still think DOWN is a good thing.
Sorry, but I'm not going to support lies, insults, and childish behavior, even when I believe in a company like ATWEC.
Name calling instead of proving me wrong, is a sign of immaturity.
I'm no newbie to people like you. Please PLEASE ignore my posts from now on, if you can only respond like a child.
It's obvious you are trying to paint a picture of me with lies.
I already stated that I purchased my shares on Friday and have not sold any.
Looks like anybody who doesn't Pump is going to be attacked. It really doesn't matter.
Let me just say it again for the people who just don't get it.
DOWN is never excellent, good, or even ok.
What the hell is THAT childish attempt at an insult supposed to mean?
Oh, I get it. I can be disrespected because I have not held shares of this particular stock as long as you have.
Sorry pal, I never signed that little rule book you seem to have just invented.
I don't need to have been in this, or any other stock a long time to know that DOWN is NOT excellent.
Insult my lack of loyalty to this stock all you want. The support at .003 is NOT strong. It has dipped below it more than once in the past few days.
Sorry you got upset at my post. Nothing personal. I suppose you're just trying to look at the "bright side" of things.
But in general, I don't like Pumpers trying to spin a negative situation into something positive. Where I come from, that's called a lie. Inaccurate information helps no one.
I'm starting to get the impression that there is a number of Pump 'n dump players on this board (you know who you are) that are trying to accumulate shares at the expense of others. If so, I hope they lose they're ass, or at least miss out on the Biggest Runups.
We need to start trading in the .004's very soon (this week), or this short term Rally may break down.
That's MY opinion.
With all due respect, doing "well" EOD is the EXCEPTION.
ATWT closed higher yesterday, but the "pattern" is an early Rally followed by selling into EOD (end of the day).
However, with yesterdays EOD Rally, I hope the "pattern" has changed to the Upside.
The Chart is looking better Short Term.
I see NO reason to sell here.
Excellent? Excellent? It's DOWN over 10%
What's that tired old saying?
"Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining"
Come on.... I like optimism, but I don't like denial.
There is NOTHING excellent about being DOWN in price. DOWN IS DOWN. IT's NOT ok, good, and especially not excellent!
Never the less, right now, I ain't sellin!
Nice HIGHER launching pad for Wednesday
Assuming good News tomorrow, blasting past the 4 area should be easy. The 5 area, probably. 6? We'll see.
I'll say it again. I ain't sellin!
Nice close, Somebody knows something
And that "somebody" is US. Thanks to VLF.
Just like the tomatoes in my garden, first you get one or two that ripen, than BAM! they all start to turn color during August.
ATWT is just starting to get ripe and ready for a BIG money harvest by the Market.
WTF? Down on positive News? .0029?
Do we need NEGATIVE News to make it go up?
What does the Market want?
The only thing I can figure, is that it's a bad day in the overall Market. That means less Buyers of anything.
And/Or maybe the Market just demands PROOF of ATWEC's progress. In other words "Show me the money!".
After all, this is a relatively new company claiming new orders in a new market with new products.
Whatever!.....It WILL go back up......I ain't sellin!
VLF are you for real?
No offense intended, but I've seen posts like this before from people who claim to have talked to companies, only to find out that they were "just kidding" or were Pumping.
I'm new to ATWT (bought friday) and this Message Board, so forgive my skepticism if you are being sincere.
I hope your right. Either way, I'm holding my shares as long as I can.
Good Luck to us ALL !
Foriegners would be fools to naked short ATWT right now.
Not that naked shorting isn't a valid concern. I just think that if ATWT has/is been under any short attacks, they would be wise to cover soon.
If there has been any naked shorting up until now, their frantic Covering (buying) may even add to the inevitable Rally we are all expecting.
To short this stock near a Low, and after the recent PR's that verify orders are now comming in would be "financial suicide".
I have seen Naked short attacks on stocks I have owned in the past. It is usually done to companies that are having some kind of problems, are struggling, have delayed expected News or financial reporting, or have too many uncertainties that have not been addressed by the Management. In others words, they try to magnify whatever negative situations that are already taking place within the company. ATWT does not fit into any of these catagories right now.
Not to be flippant, but I say let them go ahead and "naked short". They will lose their "bare asses".
I ain't sellin my shares until I'm rich.
I only have 400,000shr right now. But I will accumulate more if some other trades go well.
With the recent VERY positive news, I think most people will not only keep their shares, but buy more if they are able to.
This is a good aggressive Company with products that the entire child transportation industry will be motivated to buy. Liability reasons, as well as a desire to keep children safer will make ATWEC's products mandatory by many agencies.
These safety products are much cheaper than Lawsuits.
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!