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Really a CD stuck on replay! There are penny's with a billion shares out there trading at 3, 4 cents and have no revenue. That is the first sign that the company does not do pump and dump. It is also what makes me comfortable that if it has issued about 55% of its authorized shares to move the business forward it is worth it, when you stand back and look at the business portfolio.
The important thing is that the direction of its revenue is exactly what we want. If it continues to grow at 200%+ same quarter comparison at this stage until we begin quick acceleration I am good with it. At some point stock price will catch up with valuation.
Like I said, 600k in revenue 250,000,000 shares outstanding = .025
This stock is trading 10 times lower than its value.
A bad CD stuck on replay - LMAO, laughed so hard my wife ran into my home office to make sure I was OK. -
No the number of authorized shares is 480,000,000 Number of outstanding is 240,000,000. My bad, your numbers are correct and mine is wrong. But event then the stock is trading at 1/10th of its real value based on the revenue.
My dear friend I think you are right. I happen to believe somebody is scared about what may be coming and they are accumulating to shore up the stress they are going have
Amen to that, I say we will see the sign long before June. We need to organize a demand for an investor conference call. I will like the company to see the company do an investor conference call to explain what going on to all of us. I am with OCmillionaire on this one, we should see something by March. Too much news and too much story with this stock. Something will pop before end of 1st Q to give us a clue.
This company has focused so much on the fundamentals of its business, it like trying to knock down a house built on a rock.
1. It has developed solid technologies
2. Diversified its business portfolio (call it insurance against failure with Rogue Paper)
3. Diversified product portfolio
4. Now adding key executives.
Those simply reading SEC filings has no clue what they are doing or their knowledge of business development is limited to stock trading. Show me any technology company that does not accumulate debt during the development stages?
I would have preferred they did all the development as a private company before going public but then again consider the economic condition they probably needed money to finish the development.
As for FFF their is a different motivation that is clearly obvious to all of us.
You either have a vendetta against this company or you work for someone who pay you to do what you do. At .05 you complained, at .02 you complained. I think and this is just my guess that ECDC will still surprise you and your cohorts sooner rather than later.
Lame reports? Hiring of a new CEO with fortune 100 background is lame report?
I am just curious, how come you always disappear from the board every time we see a big dip in stop price and with a lot of dumping going on?
yeah, yeah,yeah, that's your wish, you are probably on the short side, 2 days now you have predicted where the stock will end up and it did, are you here just to short? how are you able to predict? you must know who is doing it and where they want it to be.
ECDC twitts, obviously this crap going on with the stock is not affecting business. good way to update us though
@ECDiversifiedCo ECDC
We are starting the year strong @StudentConnect_ Deployment begins @roguepaper exploded @EarthSearchUS Spreading its wings across the Globe
17 minutes ago via TweetDeck
I think somebody is accumulating shares because they something is coming or MM preparing to cover their shorts
What other PR do we need that will be any different than the annual report they just gave in December. It clearly lays out the company's objectives and goals for 2012, it described what they accomplish in 20111 and it seem to me they are continuing on that process.
Here is what we all missed and really need to to recognize the big move this company made last year. Have you seen all the news about split screen technology? I did not realize how big a deal this was until I starting seeing all these publications, this is where social media technology is going and ECDC is already there. ECDC got in that space, that was a BIG move that will pay off for investors, then Kay brought on Joe Kozak, what more do we need. How many CEO do you think bring someone in to replace himself, most have ego the size of statue of liberty, this guy is all about the business and the shareholders
Look at the numbers. 600k last year Valuation is 10X = $6ml 240ml outstanding = .04 in pps. somebody is shorting this stock and we all know it, stop blaming the company even with all the shares issued the real valuer is still .04 not .003
The Company is doing what it needs to do. in fact doing things you don't normally see with pennies. The only thing I am concerned about is why they are not coming out with strong IR campaign to fight the short sellers. all this other talk about the business itself is nonesence. the lack of decision to fight is what bothers me and maybe there is a reason for that I will like to hear it.
I think under $5ml is not a lot of debt for technology company. Technology company generally take on a lot of debt in the development stage that is why it is only second to pharmaceutical in that respect. Skype was $500ml in debt when Microsoft bought it for billions. What lawsuit?
I remember a group of guys saying the same thing to Steve Jobs in 1993. Then the development starts to pay off. Please let me know when you are ready to sell, will love to take them off your hands.
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I love when people who believe in the company have these types of intelligent discussion about the company. Good question adb0023, I think we should at least start to see some numbers by end of this month on closed deals that will reflect a good first Q for us
Got it!
All of last year they announced a bunch of pilots as they expanded their partner network globally, at year end we saw that it was true.
The only deal on the table that has not panned out is the Chinese and even the Chinese announced that the deal was real. I will just like people to point out any of the announcement that they have discovered to not be real, please do it or forever stop the insinuations.
The only thing I would be concerned about would be if they are not able to get their partners to start buying products.
I have a feeling we might be seeing some of that real soon
It is going to be a battle in 2012. If ECDC is able to keep the news coming and pile the pressure on especially with news on revenue deals. It will win for all the longs and all its shareholders. Obviously the company is not going anywhere, it is expanding, hiring, doing acquisition, launching products, really how long do you think anyone will hold this down????
It is going to pop in 2012, I have no doubt in my mind about it.
Go ECDC
Yeap, must be really inept.The point is this guy Kay is very very good, whether you give him credit for his accomplishments or not.
How does a company with stock trading at under a penny, do the followings:
Acquire Rogue Paper
Attract high quality management executives
Build StudentConnect
Give him a little bit of credit instead of threatening to have lawyers on the side waiting to sue him.
Who said we are getting a new CEO? where did you hear that? I did not know that. When will this happen? will Kay be fired by the board, is that what you heard?
We may get a new CEO, but who created wireless communication between GPS and RFID, who created StudentConnect? who acquired Rogue Paper. who organized the reverse merger to acquire ECDC? who built the distributor network in 18 countries,
Whoah!!!! all that development work????????
Must have been some CEO hiding away on Mars or living on the moon, right?
There is no way Kay could have done any of that. Absolutely No Way......
The guys is such a liar and a crook and completely incompetent there is no way he developed all of those foundation for ECDC to grow.......Absolutely No Way ........No way Hosea.
If he did we should all file a protest with the Senate intelligence committee to find out how he did it
No way Hosea, I am sure he does not have the intelligence to pull those kind of accomplishment off, he has been using a CEO living on Mars to build the operation. We need to go to Mars and find that CEO and bring him down to planet EarthSearch
We are just too smart on this board, we know everything.
Go smart members of ECDC Board!!!!!
Hope you all enjoy my New Year comedy for the smart guys on the board
ECDC SEC filing is nothing more than a picture of the business at a certain point in the life of the business. It can all change with a single contract or a single major deal. for a technology company that is not unusual.
Skype 500ml in debt - then Microsoft acquisition changed the picture
What would happen to the stock if the company announce out of the blue that its StudentConnect is being adopted by a school district? with say ....$5ml projected revenue?
Will the SEC filing mean anything ?
Stop selling goods nobody is buying.
Did yo miss the annual report? ZST ...what? will not make a difference. ECDC is bigger than that now, don't hold your breath for 2012
When will a new CEO be announced. The development of a solid company begin with an idea of what the company will be. A new CEO that did not have the vision of :
wireless communication between GPS and RFID woul;d never be Kay
StudentConnect will never be Kay
Acquiring Rogue Paper and venturing into social media will never be Kay.
Only God knows what else the company has in the works. We heard about "aNOTEfor" they have kept it quiet
What I will say my friend is please go back to a company called Apple Computers. Who's CEO was fired because it had no revenue. Nobody gave a hoot about the development cycle, everyone was impatient, they brought in CEO's that would perform magic and become overnight wizard that will drive revenue to the sky
At the end of the day, they all lacked the Vision of the originator.
Today it is the most valuable company on earth. Kay may not be that guy, but I see same pattern same trend same methodical approach to development. Me, I am like the Rock of Ages, standing firm in my belief of this stock and will not be throwing stones either every time my feeling go up and down about the stock price. I see people throwing stones all the time then the price shows slight movement they come on the board and announce how many more shares they picked up.
Why would an investor continue invest in a company he or she don't believe in, think the CEO is a fraud and a liar then have lawyers lined up on the sidewalk for lawsuits. That kind of investor is Bogus.
OC, you are putting your fingers on some very important stuff, it is very easy to confirm, a phone call that's all it would take. Just like we verify KCSA lets verify the write up, I believe it was about Four Square and see if ECDC paid for the write up.
The company was not even aware of the four square right up until someone brought it to their attention. (I think that someone was you).
Come on dude lets call Wallstreet
I agree with you either Kay is a liar and a fraud or FFF is a serious basher.
Amen to that. Let everyone keep screaming dilution when more buyers come in we will be singing the float is very low. All this stock need is very consistent weekly news that is related to revenue and growth and the stock will fly like a bird
2012 baby! Its going to be on ..................
Guys obviously they hired the PR firm there must be some type of goal or objective in doing that. If I was running this company there nothing in the world that would cause me to do announcements in the middle of Xmas unless subject to 8K requirements
Finally some real business approach to looking at dilution, it has been missing on this board for ever. Just look at the annual report does this look like a company that just dilute for the sake of getting cash.
this is the point I have been making thank you for the validation
FFF.... please, so you are saying they did market research in two major market with no money? you think they did not have to issue shares to do those? you think they hired KCSA with monopoly dollars. You think they establish distribution network in 18 countries without raising money. Get real my friend, some business knowledge will help understand the process.
when people on this board stat to get a grip, and understand that the company need money to make money we will all stop screaming dilution.
Dilution is when shares are being issued for no business growth, investment is when shares are being issued and we can see the result.
the result in this case? 480% growth in revenue driven by pilot projects in 18 countries. Completion of StudentConnect ot launch in 2012.
That is what I called issuing shares as investment
OC. my man, I have to give you credit for calling March 2012 as the critical period for us and I have to say ECDC annual report is showing that momentum will prove you right.
My question is, how did you predict that period as a match point? because you are right on the money.
There is no question there is share dilution going on, all you have to do is look at the outstanding and the increased float. That my friend does not bother me. If a company is using shares to unload debt, increase asset i.e acquisitions or business development, how can we really say it is dilution if in 6-12 months those development activities or acquisition accelerate revenue. I call it investment.
m y definition of dilution is when a business is using shares just to pay expenses. From the report that I see, seems like a lot of money is being spent on development and if the money is coming from issuing shares to do all the development work. I say do it.
How does a company develop operation if the only currency it has is stock. Has the US government not told us all year that money is tight in the economy for small businesses, give the guy credit for moving the business forward .From what I see, the company issued a report that tells us what it is doing with the money that is coming in.
Just my little cent!
We were all so excited about the annual report from the company just a few days ago. Lets not forget whatever it was in the news report that we all thought was good about the development activities of the company was all done by Kay. So don't underestimate what else may be coming.
You and me see eye to eye on this thing. I am betting we see .05 in January.
My feeling is we have seen the last news fro the year, if I was ECDC why in the world would I want to put my premium news in the market on December and 1 week form the holiday. However I believe we should see weekly or even 2 news per week in January to give this thing strong upward momentum for 2012.
I am going to pick up as many cheapies as I can.
Definition of dilution? Issuing shares to stay in business. This looks to me that if they are issuing shares they are doing so to grow the business.
The key word is efficiency with focus to drive revenue. Each subsidiary having its own CEO to focus on the driving revenue. It seems pretty clear to me this guy knows what he is doing.
Do you think Kay should run EarthSearch, StudentConnect, Rogue Paper and "aNOTEfor" by himself.
But of course you have a lot of stock traders with business 101 knowledge second guessing everything he does.
Well written PR?, can you comment on content.
Rogue Paper?
aNOTEfor?
New executives?
StudentConnect?
Twitter?
Partners in 18 countries? (they have been making the announcements and you always said it was bogus)
Increased Revenue?
New PR and management advisers?
Do you see any upside? any potential in this? .
Do you think any of the activities may stem the losses and begin the turn around in 2012. what do you think?
Very nice news. My gut always told me to avoid the mad rush to crucify. CEO for RP, Searching for CEO for EarthSearch/StudentConnect, Kay gets to focus on strategic growth.
Acquired Rogue Paper
Acquired "aNOTEfor" (probably very very recent as in last few days as there is no 8K filed yet)I wonder if they will tell us later what this social site is about.
Brought 2 new people on board in the areas of sales and Client management
Partners in 18 countries
Now we know they were not just diluting they were building something for shareholders. This company can become a mega success.
Technically it will have 4 operations developed by next year
EarthSearch - Logistics
RP - Social media entertainment
aNOTEfor - social media site (curious)
StudentConnect - Social media education
Anyone that thinks all of these can be done overnight must be kidding. For me personally I have always believed the development of a business is the most critical part of giving a business longevity. That obviously is what is going on here.
Guys it has nothing to do with revenue and sales. for those who are mistaken see revenue from pilot? it is an indicator of revenue that can come from sales.
You are speaking through both sides of your mouth. You did not threaten him but you will go after him, you don't accept thievery based on what a third party said flaflyersfan said but you have evidence that he paid for the article to be written.
Now, you have no evidence of any crime or anything illegal but you have begin to compare him to Maddoff. I will bet a million dollars you would not say any of this stuff directly to him if he were to be in a room with you. that's just my feeling, take it for what its worth.
OC Millionaire said last week, 1st quarter 2012 should bring fireworks, there is no way all the development activities we have witnessed here will not bring fireworks starting with Rogue Paper, then StudentConnect and we should not forget they have been setting up global distribution all year with oil tanker monitoring etc., there is not way we are not going to see a first quarter fireworks.
Look at the questions I asked FFF, it may relate to your comments, why does he need to worry about who get .50 or $1ml. Do you think Google care but who bought their shares at $1.00 and it is now $500.00? Everything depends on what ECDC does and if the market respond accordingly.
You made so many assumptions in your premise to the questions it left my jaw dropped. How do you assume Kay will sell, did you see him file papers to sell? Have you considered maybe he really would like to see people make that kind of profit? Maybe .75 will be the new low in 2012?
Here you go, response to FFF:
FFF You did not answer the question, let me repeat myself.
Is there anything they can do successfully that will negate the impact of any dilution???
Yes, I am admitting they will issue more shares, they will dilute or whatever it is the reason you are giving for the bashing.
Is there anything they can do successfully to negate the impact of the dilution in your view. To help you out I will give you a few potential examples and you can tell me if the success could negative impact of dilution.
1. Successfully implement StudentConnect in say 8 school districts
2. Execute the licensing deal with Chinese company
3. Report $1ml + revenue first quarter 2012
4. Rogue Paper jsut bring in 2-3 network deals?
5. Make more strategic acquisitions with revenue in place
Take your choice, is there anything in your view that can move the stock or is it simply death to ECDC in your view?
I hope I made it simple enough to get a straight shooter from you.
You did not answer the question, let me repeat myself.
Is there anything they can do successfully that will negate the impact of any dilution???
Yes, I am admitting they will issue more shares, they will dilute or whatever it is the reason you are giving for the bashing.
Is there anything they can do successfully to negate the impact of the dilution in your view. To help you out I will give you a few potential examples and you can tell me if the success could negative impact of dilution.
1. Successfully implement StudentConnect in say 8 school districts
2. Execute the licensing deal with Chinese company
3. Report $1ml + revenue first quarter 2012
4. Rogue Paper jsut bring in 2-3 network deals?
5. Make more strategic acquisitions with revenue in place
Take your choice, is there anything in your view that can move the stock or is it simply death to ECDC in your view?
I hope I made it simple enough to get a straight shooter from you.
There is no development or success news that will negate o reverse your anticipated lower price. Do you know something we don't?
Because I think the number of shares are irrelevant if they are accounted for in growth and revenue will you not agree?
Do you see anything positive about the company? Anything at all?
The product development
The acquisitions
the revenue growth between last year and this year? at least 400%
What if the company comes out with some crazy revenue announcement or agreement?
What do you think will happen? Just curious on your opinion on this.
The last I heard from my hero "Steve Job" no it does not when you are investing a development stage company. If you are looking for a growth investment then there are companies out there that you should invest in. Not a company that is still organizing its business and operation.
This company is just finishing the technology, in the middle of acquisitions and reorganization and you are looking to buy into price then you are buying the wrong stock my friend.
I saw all the good comments yesterday about studentconnect, I did not see ay of it move the price of the stock. Why? because it has nothing to do with revenue, simply development, that is why it is called long term investment and long term is not defined as 6 month or 12 months, it is defined as 12 months or more. None of us know what is really going on in the company when we start bashing the company, then a news like yesterday comes up and we are all start to praise the same CEO we wanted to hang to the wall just the day before.
It is a development stage company people. Get that. It has not claimed to be anything but that in all of its filings.
All people screaming dilution in the last several weeks were screaming "gold mine yesterday" lol!
The problem is there more people on the board who know more about stock trading than they know anything about business development
I always said we should stop all this focus on short term stock price, the real deal is in the business and how they execute. when I saw the acquisition of RP and the connection between it, twitter and StudentConnect, there was nothing going to shake me. OC is right about one thing, 2012 will be the year.
I learned a long time ago to separate the stock price form the business when I am investing because stock price for development stage companies are always manipulated, in what direction is what you have to determine.
Unlike a lot of people here screaming dilution, I see a company looking for ways to capitalize its business for execution and I have been proven right today.
Did you see the size of the Research report???? that is no joke