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FG, I am a little sorry for my outbursts about you and my language this morning. BUT, my comments were not random as I was provoked by FG and CaseyOne.
This board is full of lies anyway, but my employment at SeaView is happening and Rich is my father. For those people that have been around here and reading the board every day, this will not be a big deal.
Please try and use one name or the other, TA, TAfirehawk, Adam or Adam Jordan are all fine. I am not here to hide anything and if somebody wants proof of anything, just call me, I have no problem with this.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Madhat, it has already been stated that the PP was wrote up and signed awhile ago, but the money is not being put in all at once. Rich stated on a couple occasions that this time around others have put their money in first. The PP sounds to me like a backup plan to keep cash in SeaView if sales dollars don't come in fast enough on a net 90 basis. I am not an expert here and a guessing from what I have read on the board, but it seems like the PP was setup to supply small amounts of cash on a need basis if necessary.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
print, wondering where you have been, kinda refreshing to hear from you. Or is it Ken/A@P/FG/Print????
Hard to tell who anybody is anymore. According to some here I am related to A@P, FG and not Rich, what a crazy place we have.
BTW, you are not so easily vindicated print, just because FG is twisting things like A@P doesn't make it THE TRUTH.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Casey, there is absolutely no compensation with my posting!!!
If you bothered to read this board regularly, then you would know I have been critical of SeaView also.
Your other questions are difficult to answer because you word them assuming this is a scam. That whole pretense of the issue is wrong. There is no scam so there is nothing for me to know or Rich to deceive me with.
Oh I forgot the first question, yes I have purchased open market shares with my own money in the last 18 months. My largest purchase was at $2.10 so I am still in the red on those shares. No I have not and am not involved in any PP for SeaView, sorry FG, no shares at 10 cents for me.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
As much as I love the banter back and forth, I must stop. I am going out of town for the weekend. So if I don't respond to questions, don't chop my head off like some around here are trying to do.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
MH, what are you trying to say about my relationship with SeaView? Don't beat around the bush, take the direct approach like FG {but avoid the lies} and speak your mind.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Don't feel sorry for me because Rich is my father. But don't think I am a plant on this board or an insider either. There are so many things that the rest of you will never know about that everybody should stop jumping to conclusions.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, glad to see you haven't lost your sense of humor. Pretty soon you are going to say the all three of us are really Rich posting under different names!!!!
I sure am glad you are joking around or I would be seriously offended.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, I love the threats you post, keep up the good work?!?!?!?!
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Why did Christy's name get thrown in here?
Do you really know what she or anybody else does at SeaView? Probably not, so go stick a cork in it until you do!!!
JMHO, Adam Jordan
Who would be most upset about the current PP??? The people that were trying to get their own PP done with SeaView to the tune of 40 million shares.
Good job George, glad you didn't sell out the company to some outsiders.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
dk76, be careful or FG/A@P will lie about you.
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG, I changed my sig to my real name, does this make you happy now?!?!?!
JMHO, Adam Jordan
FG or should we call you A@P.
Amazing how the very things you once deleted as FORMER chairperson, you are now posting. I feel such accusations should be deleted, even some of my posts too, but it looks like anything goes around here now.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
FG, are you mad because you are no longer chairperson around here? So this is how you want to play. This is all a shame, but good luck FG, you are going to need it.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
FG, it is outrageous to say I am a Plant on this Board. You are violating IHUB's rules and I demand the post be removed for a personal attack against me.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
FG, Hostile buyer for SEVU and A@P Plant on this Board.
FG, you have known this to be true for a long time about my relationship with Rich and SeaView. Amazing how my PM accusations to your business practices and associates has made you so hateful. Did I strike a nerve?
For those of you who don't know what I am referring to, well there have been some accusations floating around that FG and A@P are good buddies trying to buyout SeaView with a PP of their own.
Since we are all coming clean, you should too, FG. Rumor has it that you have been trying to do your own PP with SeaView to get 40 million shares. And NO this didn't come from my father or any other person at SeaView.
So who really needs to tell the board what you are all about...
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Rich, thanks for addressing some of these issues, but be sure to get back with us on loan/stock/cash issue. It would also be nice if you could tell George our concerns on the PP and issuing a PR would be good.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
FG, What confirmation do you have, please post and don't use the 10Q either.
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Home Depot is in there for the parking lot system, not retail of SecureView. The parking lot system is HUGE and IMO deserves WAY MORE attention than the retail side.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
On a side note, bigbizz don't tout this stock too much and make light of the current situation too much either. This is a serious time and hard questions should be answered, but FG is way out of line here too. We need to find the gray in between the black and white.
This may look like I am shifting sides, but I am just being realistic. The current state of SeaView is serious, but not the end of the world as FG {or is it A@P} is preaching.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Nice to hear another voice of reason, zagdad.
I like the point about who we would rather have investing cash into the company, outsiders or insiders.
And the point about the stock being at 20 cents, it seems very possible that the PP was done then, as Seahag suggested earlier.
Haven't we all learned what jumping the gun and waving RED FLAGS can do around here!!! Pretty soon I am gonna have to associate FG with A@P if this pace keeps up - DON'T REPORT THE TRUTH WITHOUT THE FACTS
JMHO, TAfirehawk
FG, answer my questions!!! Now you are acting like printmail01 when backed against the wall on the X-10 thing.
Oh my god, did somebody steal FG's password and begin posting under his name? Is this really you FG or an imposter??? Or is it simply that you post under 4 or 5 different aliases on this board???? Kinda makes you wonder doesn't it!!!!
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Good point SH, maybe we should look at the price of the stock when the PP was wrote up and see what percentage the 10 cents WAS at the time, not today's price.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
FG, I don't have the answers to those two questions.
But I do have one question for you. How did SeaView get more operating money to pay bills like rent when no product was being sold earlier this year? Along the same lines, Where does a small startup company get money if not from stock/private investors?
JMHO, TAfirehawk
I know not to trust lawyers, everybody knows that!!!!
A lot of the "mistakes" you refer to are not as black and white as you presume. Maybe we should wait for the official word from the SEC before we label SEVU as SATAN.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Yes you are attacking me!!!
Why the dig on me at the end of that post saying I got some of the shares at 10 cents????? Which is total crap!!!! {couldn't say my real feelings}
That is quite insulting what you are implying. I expect that out of a "basher" but not you, or maybe you should be classified as a basher now.
This board has went down the wrong path before and you were the voice of reason before, but now the SEVU thread on IHUB is becoming very disturbing.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Nice one FG, now you are attacking me for posting my opinion.
No I don't like the PP at 10 cents, but as others have done in the past, over-reacting seems to be the theme of the day. I merely post my views from the opposite side of the fence, somebody has to say something or we are just another RB.
Nice dig at me at the end. NO I didn't get any of those 10 cent shares. How am I supposed to get those? Outsiders have been turned away from investing in the PP, so I was out of luck.
Hell, IF I had the facts, I probably couldn't tell everybody anyway. But I don't have the facts, but I was assured that all of the recent dealings were approved by the lawyers. Maybe I shouldn't trust lawyers!!!!
JMHO, TAfirehawk
FG, you want to change the rules of IHUB just to suit your personal agenda now. I have never spoke up before, but printmail01 was right about getting his class action money calc's posts deleted and bigbizz posts staying. I disagreed with both posts on the class action figures and both should have been deleted or both kept. You are running your own personal agenda now and that surprises me greatly.
I am disappointed in your conclusions about this situation as you must realize you do not have ALL the FACTS in this case. But please hire your lawyer if you must, BUT DO NOT CHANGE THIS BOARD TO BASHER HAVEN BECAUSE OF YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
FG, you may have stepped over the line this time. You of all people should be careful on what "facts" you put together, now it is your turn instead of printmail01's to be watched closely.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
For those of you who cry DILUTION, do any of you see how price sensitive the stock is now that the MM's have stopped manipulating it??? Come on people, a day can go by with less than 50,000 shares traded and the price go up 20%?!?!?!?! That tells me there are very very few free trading shares for the MM's to play with, I am not a stock expert so correct me if I am wrong.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
dk76, I am always interested in your opinions as they are often the voice of reason on this board.
I have also not been against this dilution craze people are talking about. You are exactly right, somebody has to pay the bills and who do you think has been paying them from day 1????????
JMHO, TAfirehawk
I don't know exact figures, but your guess is right, MANY shares were distributed legally for less than market price. Gopher, PP, professional services, employees are very good examples and a HUGE number of shares.
print is simply taking this personal. He is upset your posts aren't deleted. Seems pretty simple to me, you use VERY rough figures and say GUESS, whereas he states "FACTS" and figures to the penny.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
Oops, I never meant to say cabos_tacos was a basher, I accidentally left out the NOT in my last sentence. It should have read...
"One last thing, your opinions are valued too and I would NOT engage in such conversation with other "bashers"."
That was meant to imply the exact opposite because I do not believe cabos_tacos to be one of the bashers around here.
SORRY
JMHO, TAfirehawk
I like the new layout of IHUB and no advertisements yet, which weren't too bad to begin with. Now we can report TOS violations, gotta love it.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
You have made your point cabos_tacos and we really were thinking along the same lines on this issue. Sometimes I just feel like arguing with somebody. A lot of the other posts from the past week pissed me off and this was the thread I replied to.
I agree completely that we ALL must be prepared for the worst but hope for the best. I have had numerous conversations with SEVU on this issue and many others. From this, and NO I didn't get any more info than anybody else could get if the picked up the PHONE, I just don't see the merits in the case against SEVU especially after looking what a counter-suit would do.
One last thing, your opinions are valued too and I would engage in such conversation with other "bashers".
JMHO, TAfirehawk
I did bother to read the entire McDonald's lawsuit article and I believe she had a reasonable case. Of course the media made a joke of it and the general public never heard THE TRUTH.
Well let me tell you a thing or two, the facts in the SEVU case are not nearly as strong as you assume.
I never said the SEVU case is stupid, but my opinion of the facts presented are that the case is very weak. SEVU getting "convicted" would not be the strangest lawsuit in the world at all, but THE TRUTH in the SEVU case is much weaker than the McDonald's case brought up.
Obviously nobody here knows how the class action suit will end up, but we all can voice our opinions here, although some people have more facts than others.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
WRONG...
The point of the McDonald's coffee lawsuit was brought up to show how such a stupid thing as spilling coffee could win somebody multi-millions.
Don't try and twist it around after the fact, because that was how it was originally presented. I was simply showing, even though my facts were wrong, that it wasn't like the press reported it.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
That is not what I heard, but thanks for setting the record straight. At least we still see that the case was probably not settled for the multi-millions that everybody thinks.
JMHO, TAfirehawk
And who said the Taiwan deal will never happen?
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