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.....VC and I are in 100% AGREEMENT......UWBKQ IS DEAD..............
...BIGTIME LONG GONE............and I have PROOF....................
...fair value of the common stock = .0001 p/s......................
...sorry............as for the BK delays, HARVEY, the ITR and other recoveries, the dropped APPEAL, conspiracy theories, Jeff's off-the-record comments on the STIP, Guy's whereabouts, the D&O money grab, and FRED SCOTT'S psychosis........................meaningless pablum.............
...sorry, DREAMERS..............ain't one dirty penny available for COFFIN No: 8.......................................we dropped the APPEAL because our case was HOPELESS...........frivolous..........wet tissue paper.............
...Claimants No: 1-7 get nothing until KING JAMES #8 nets - nets $50MM............................................................
...we'll call that Fred Scott's STIPULATION...............the REAL one might be for MUCH MUCH MORE...................ok...............
...remind us why WE - WE have been in BK for NINE MONTHS with no updates....................other than TIMBERLY's phony TIRADE #2....................................jusk asking the nice folks a simple question, lawrence..............................
...we iz just about ready for the POL...............post it....................as required by LAW...................
...aimho.................................mine......?????........
...because FCNCA has purchased 20+ banks with loss/share arrangements...............................
...and do WE - WE trust those nice, honest gents at the FDIC......................JACKBOOT GENTS..........???????.........
...FIVE SMOKING GUNS = FIVE SMOKING GUNS........................and why did the INTERVENOR create a STIPULATION..........??????........just asking a simple question, larry.................WE - WE are not going to "blow the deal" by having a gentlemanly discussion concerning the OUTRAGEOUS ILLEGAL SEIZURE of our cute little well-capitalized bank, larry...................
...might be early cocktails, today...............aimho, btw...........larry's still PARANOID about all of THIS...........
...there are no specific, itemized financials re: UWB within FCNCA's annual reports..................the loss/share arrangement protects FCNCA for up to a 20% loss on any disposals..............charge-offs, asset sales or any recognized loss..........................FCNCA's activity reports on any UWB assets - positive or negative are confidential and SEALED........and further SEALED by FCNCA's contractor IT reporting company...........
...so UWB's business has been white-washed - - whatever the outcomes were...........and has absolutely no consequence WHATSOVER........................................
...SHOULD WE ASK FRANKIE ABOUT THE THE CONSPIRACY WITH JACKBOOT JOHNNIE..........................???????????...............just a simple question, larry.......................AND WHOSE FAMILY MEMBER MADE THE $880k OFF OF THE uwbkq SHORT, marty.......?????....
...and amy used the operative word, "maybe" when she asked herself whether UWB would have survived with more time to complete the CRP with GS.................."maybe" we let the APPEALS court decide or send the case back to trial with a judge that does not have a BLATANT COI..............................
...should I attend anger management classes, larry.............?????.............or wait for our $1.85 p/s SD per the STIP proceeds.................................
...opinions only, hereon........................not saying who's...............
...COST TO JACKBOOTS HAD THEY LEFT OUR BANK ALONE = $0.00.......
...the bank was SEIZED ILLEGALLY, imo............so all this loss to taxpayers, loss to FCNCA, JOB KICK-BACK to johnnie, INSIDER TRADING GAIN OF $880,000................D&O lawsuit.......etc.........
...ain't buying any of this.............THE BANK WAS ILLEGALLY SEIZED BY CORRUPT JACKBOOTS..............end of story..............
...WE - WE dropped the APPEAL.............why......??????.........because it was in the best interest of the bank to shrivel and walk away.............not hardly............................
...there's a STIP and we'll get a little something p/s.............very soon...........GUARAN - M/F-ing - TEED..........by me.........yes, ME.........................all other comments are someone's OPINION.......................
...the STIP is long signed....................the deal is done.........................WE - WE just have to get the BK Claimants 'satisfied'....................ain't turning out to be so easy...............................for some reason.................
...the FDIC wants CLOSURE so at some point this DRAMA will end..............
...ground up TULIPS have low levels of nicotine.....................
...are you thinking what I'm thinking........??????............22-C can peddle ground up TULIP cigarettes in CHINA............and TURKEY...........and SOMALIA..............
...and a gambling addiction is better than a nicotine addiction.............booze......???????............my opinion on booze addiction would not be OBJECTIVE..................hello......hello......??????..........
...smart money takes the $4-bill here................better than a $3-bill in a couple of weeks after REALITY sets in................
...believe the STIP predicates a "7".................the FDIC ain't gonna let this bad boy live.................so $120MM SHUTS DOWN the popsicle stand....................about $40MM is left for hyena no. 8.....................larry then calculates $1.25 p/s SD......................larry, not me.............................
...I don't give opinions......................although, generally speaking, rotten roadkill does not get back up and run away...............................
...cool post......it appears as if the D&O suit is almost a procedural matter with the FDIC's own legal directive to settle or milk out the bonding/insurance company....................
...'sposed to the the last spoke in the STIPULATION wheel wherein this Intervenor character shores up all recoveries...............
...and if my math is correct, or if larry's is, the FDIC is now sitting on about $120MM of OUR - OUR money...............$4.4MM of the ITR, about $15.6MM+ in BAC, $80MM in JPM, and we estimate $20MM in this D&O settlement (BestBank of Boulder settled for $5.7MM from Travelers)...........................and WE - WE are not APPEALING amy or making any accusations against frankie or johnnie (larry said to lighten up on the honey bobo TRASHINGS - so I won't)......
...REAL CLOSURE IS VERY NEAR..................hopefully with that $1.85 p/s SD from the STIP proceeds...............aimho..........
.....consensus in and around Denver is the BK is progressing very well.......................HUGE VOLUMES of tweets....??????.......
...may not mean much for #8 in the breadline..................but the complications and legal challenges within a large BK usually mean there is a large pie to divide..............although if beggers numbered 1 thru 7 were getting paid in full............................the BK would be done in a few hours and not EIGHT+ months..............so something WEIRD is going on - - isn't if, Jeff and HARVEY..........??????..................
...WE - WE are definitely getting some level of residual distribution........................not sure if anyone knows yet how much.................................
...that's the Saturday morning cartoon..........................
...HOW-MOTHER/F-ing-EVER.......................what if..............
...there was a nasty conspiracy uncovered by the FDIC and DOJ.............along with some other improprieties............related to the ILLEGAL SEIZURE.....?????????????????????????.....
...just asking..............and the FDIC decided to STOP THE LITIGATION - - STOP THE LITIGATION...............hello.....?????
...just asking these nice folks a simple question, larry......................nothing IMPLIED, larry.................
...OMG..........WTF..........................ETC...............
...would some handsome, honest gent holding 1.7MM shares of UWBKQ feel vindicated were it discovered THE BANK entered into some weird STIPULATION with the OCC/Intervenor..............???????????.......he might be.....................show us............THE MONEY............soon, please.....................TY..............
stop what.........this mofo is deader than a door nail...............
...question is why the long, drawn out BK..........why....?????.....
....it's not about the money.......................................
...never was and never will be...............22-C loses cash profusely, doesn't sell much (MULCH) of any product and hands out pamphlets which encourage smoking cigarettes with low nicotine..............
...oh wait....!!!!!!......they genetically alter tobacco leaves and then sell Norwegian paddle boys candy cigarettes...............a failed business model.....................
...btw, Alice Walton has a $24-BILLION net worth and can't get a date........she's also not returning my emails.......hmmmmm........
...any predictions for 22-C falling back under $2 p/s.......?????.......me first...........30 days.......................
..........why no closure in the BK CT............??????............
...a very simple BK......no funds, no assets, NO HOPE..............
...shut down the BK and WIPE OUT the stock........................
...what can be so complicated about swatting a gnat with a sledgehammer........................?????????....................
...just asking..............never owned this POS and never will................................calling this scum rotting roadkill is a compliment.........................................
...ya think this bad boy might run for another couple of YEARS...........????????????.......................................
...2 FACTS: 1) WE - WE entered into a STIPULATION.....and 2) the stock doesn't really trade.........................................
...BK CT is buried in obtaining satisfaction statements...........we suspect (hello, the L-man, one of your words) that JPM is fighting the FDIC in our pip squeek BK..........whatever........................
...there are distribution monies that reach down to Claimant No: 8 or 7 or the number now assigned to UWBKQ shareholders..............
...pick a number.........no change there...............but any stock trading behavior does not give any clues to the ultimate payoff.............NO CORRELATION, WHAT-SO-EVER...................
...WE - WE think the SD might be closer to 85 pennies per............in that range..............BS fee is the unknown.............all in someone's opinion.......NO NAMES........
...agreed...............even priced as a highly-speculative option, with the limited supply, the stock should be priced higher than the highest pre-amy s/p, imo.............................
...fairly obvious we settled the suit at the APPEAL..........granted there are lots of what ifs, mysteries, unknowns, smoking guns, fred scott's psychological issues, ETC................but regardless, the odds are very high that there was a settlement and Claimant No: 8 will receive some amount of distribution................maybe not much, but a lot more than five pennies p/s...............................
...the whole HARVEY proposition is starting to make sense..........litigation proceeds are coming..................
...okay, so this is my opinion....................ROCK ON........
...minimum daily trading volume THRESHOLD to be considered liquid is 5%...............hello.........1.5MM shares DAILY.............
...1% = about 300,000 shares....................that's a MONSTER DAY for the western united crowd...........
...stock doesn't TRADE, imo.............a light shuffle, maybe......
...complete BK uncertainty and probably SEC CONTROL has frozen the stock..............monied speculators and insiders legally able to BUY.........cannot get a meaningful size block......ain't none available..........................26MM shares are locked in.......probably never will TRADE................................
...final details contained in the BK POL.........over-due..........long over-due...........something inside the court is complicating the Trustees......................
...I like your logic, Mr. LGL......................................
...however, IF we entered into this quickie STIPULATION to accommodate the dropping of THE APPEAL, all that results is a cash or stock distribution that is awarded UWBKQ shareholders, now known only as Claimant No: 8........no NOL, no anything...................
...the FDIC wanted to stop any and all litigation.............so it rammed some wired-up deal down Guy's throat...............might even have agreed not to sue Guy...............for this STIP.........................
...only wild card is that the FDIC knew of some improprieties associated with the ILLEGAL SEIZURE.........and got Guy to stop the suit..........which it definitely did..........................
...this situation is too weird even for me...............we'll see...................................ain't opining anymore............f/you, larry.................LOSER.........
...SHOULD THE BANK HAVE BEEN SEIZED.........???????................
...OF COURSE NOT.................no metric justified JACKBOOTS assigning a RECEIVER..............no law, either...................
...this "process" has been long and PAINFUL...............but it should be over............very, very SOON...........................
...we're trying to goad the TULIP TRADER in to calling Timberly for a TIRADE #3.......get some comments/updates/facts/rumors/speculation...........melt this bad boy down to one COPPER p/s....
...no more need to OPINE..............dead is dead..................
...UWBKQ should've been WIPED OUT a long, long time ago............
...trading in this POS - even at 2 dirty pennies p/s - is a WASTE...
...SHUT THE MOFO DOWN, SEC.........................................
...and this nonsense about the FDIC's version of HYPOTHETICAL HARVEY IS TOTAL BULL/S..........if we're givin' 1/2 of the ITR - - it's going to Harvey and Jeff ...................................
...Guy and BS realized that, with the BK, there was no chance of ever getting any money and the legal case was DEAD DEAD DEAD.......
...fools: grab your two pennies NOW..........and RUN.....FAST.......
...don't know anyone by that name..............there is the 11 vs. 7 problem.............FDIC wants the 7, as do the Trustees.......our response was lame (to maintain employees....??????)...........a STIP might force the liquidation - - FDIC doesn't want any entity surviving.............and Harvey and JPM are ahead of us on all of this.........
...case is definitely not over........................may NEVER END...................4.2 pennies p/s in perpetuity..............aimho..............sack's starting to tingle for some reason.......$1.15.........per......?????.......
...Mr. LGL does have a valid point.................................
...There's a bankruptcy exception to the carryforward limit for corporations that have changed ownership. Lots of technical requirements but UWBKQ could, we believe, scrape up some HUGE losses to carryforward - for some other entity via a SALE or transfer..........this = value.............two quarters per share......??????.......or mayhaps even a dollar p/s...................??????...........
...our advisers do not see any value in this NOL issue...............but our advisers have been WRONG about most of UWBKQ - to date.........................we'll see.................
...lots of DRAMA left....................aimho.................
...red snapper quiche today for lala...............................
...uwbkq........????????.......................'sposed to be closure this week.............coffin #8 with no cash....??????.....
...or a HUGE fraud and other improprieties discovered behind the scenes.............???????...............leading to some form of a HYPOTHETICAL HARVEY-TYPE arrangement...............????????........
...stip might only be a few pages of rhetoric...................the quick-hit BK............???????.............docs stacked higher than Mt. Everest...................................
...whose turn, Vladamir, to opine......................??????.....
...FINAL VERDICT: POL..............................................
...might be leak or BOD news release immediately following.........
...wethinks the END is very, very NEAR.................could be that the D&O suits settlement is the last piece before the Trustees sign off on the POL.......................
...definitely will be FUN........boom or bust.....................
...remember, larry claimed he fended off the OTS and sold honey bobo on the CRP...............then WHAM!!!!!!.....receivership...............then larry gets BS to take our case............and buffy lobs a softball to amy..............lost again.............now what.......???????.....
...secret STIP or BUST...............I'm going with the $1.15 per..............some say the two quarters per is a done deal..............and finally, brandy sippers GUARANTEE $5.50 PER and say frankie is somehow in on the arrangement..................
...opinions hereon are solely fred scott's and should not be relied upon when making investment decisions................
...meaningful volume cannot be TRADED...............................
...when the distribution details are released in the BK POL, the stock will move accordingly...................daring someone to buy small blocks is a very little person's insecure dream to get a dime p/s out of HER meager holdings..................BIG FOLKS DON'T ACT THIS WAY........................wait it out or scram..............
...funny how the LITTLE PEOPLE have never, ever commented on the FACTS of the situation, or the pieces of EVIDENCE, or any real legitimate fact underlying this OPEN CASE.................
...unfortunately, the only shared communications device UWBKQ shareholders have is a low-level, B-grade investor blog (this).............................just tin cans connected by a string.................mental midget to mental midget...........hello.........?????....................
...whose opinion was this one, L............??????????...........twin cities......??????........
...simpletons are missing the LEGAL LOGIC...........................
...WE - WE dropped the APPEAL because dropping the APPEAL was in.........what......?????.......OUR - OUR "best interest".........to drop the APPEAL and walk without a fight......
...sorry, ain't happening......UNLESS..........WE - WE reach some type of STIPULATION with the OCC/Intervenor................gonna be difficult because WE - WE are in BK and the STIP cannot be entered into the BK proceedings...............................not a prob........................any monies included in the STIP for UWB beneficiaries (me and you) can and will be included in the BK estate, however.......................but in no instance can these beneficiaries receive less than (ENTER AN AMOUNT HERE)____________...............
...we settled, the details are working thru the BK CT and the UWBKQ s/p is not real because the stock does not TRADE - - other than for small, insignificant "balancings".........................
...that is reality...........aimho...............not some girlie girl's insecure whines................................
...if frankie cracked, as some believe, then there is fcnca stock in the settlement - - lots of it - - a BIG IF............and bigtime payola..............IF............................
...it's really starting to look like the quickie settlement after the BK details are ironed out, imo...................Guy might have gotten $50MM, after satisfying claimants..........dunno........but Guy did wrangle a deal for a CHUNK................................
...there are mysteries on the fcnca stock offering/issuances, the holding sister resigning after learning of THE MESS, imo...........frankie holding hiding..............etc..............
...two quarters, FIN-FIFTY, $1.15, $3.00, a ukulele............who knows.................DREAM BIG.................aimho............
.....who, me....????.......NO.......but the number is $25MM, AFTER settling with certified Claimants in the BK CT.........some $55MM............
...I think WE - WE should have APPEALED and requested a send-back for a FULL TRIAL - which WE - WE would have been granted..........the facts would have proven the SEIZURE was not justified, imo........................
...there are still some BIGS who GUARANTEED we'll see $5.50 p/s, possibly in frankie federal common stock............those BIGS also contend there could be, like criminal indictments, etc............and that the FDIC is beaten but just dragging the process out as long as possible..........................
...the only POSITIVE at this point is...................UWBKQ shareholders are getting M-O-N-E-Y..............more than 4.5 pennies per........................
...me again.............all opinions hereon......100% mine.......
.....CLOSURE anticipated - possibly THIS WEEK.......................
...that's the buzz at 8,500 ft. ASL..................only problem is the distribution to Claimant holding flashcard #8 (might be #7 now, but the result is the same).................$20MM to $25MM, pre-BS/emps...........................not good...........if this is accurate - I disagree with it, btw, however, the net payout to US - US will only be about 50 pennies +/- p/s..................
...all kinds of internal BK weirdness - - what matters at this point is THE MONEY........and closure..............
...I don't start rumors, I just spread 'em...................believe anything at your own RISK......
...aimho..........this one is 100% mine, folks........might be the real deal............................two quarters PER and it's over....................
...all NOL's were taken in 2011 - - hence the $4.4MM ITR.......BK negates any further carry-forwards - - which is why we waited until 2012 to file the TR's, then we filed the BK........................
...WE - WE allowed THE BANK to drop the APPEAL because it was in our "best interests"...................hello.........?????....
...btw, nobody wants the $4.4MM.......imagine that.........and this BK process might last another year because UWBKQ had $43,000 in cash to distribute.....................and the BK Trustees made a special request of all Claimants to file re-claims.........WTF........in the event that there were any undefined proceeds to DISTRIBUTE...............HARVEY just might have about $50MM after filling coffins numbered 1 thru 7..................with FDIC chits........................
...the real FUN hasn't even BEGUN.....................that's when the cash starts getting piled in corridor number EIGHT............
...aimho................or his...........wait.............the twins want back in........................somebody's...........
...the case transcripts show Auntie Li pressing the defendant on submitting requested internal FDIC communication records per the specific FRCP................immediately preceding the NOA and after the NOA filing.............................the FDIC was refusing, imo.....................................................
...and we know for a FACT that frankie was questioned by some official agency concerning 'western united'.................
...please allow me to make my post without insecure, baseless attacks..................weren't the girlie girl scouts banned from this board a year ago......????????........no response, please......TYIA....
...never give up......................ever..........I ain't.......
...FIN-FIFTY FOLKS believe that frankie cracked and ratted out the PLAN..............................and Auntie Li could ultimately demand certain evidentiary items which would assist THE CAUSE......
...I have no comment on any of this...........HOWEVER........in the event that there is a HUGE PILE OF DRAMA hiding behind the STIP/BK.........................fin-fifty or $150MM net to the damaged parties......................makes a lot of sense and explains every-MF/ing-thing.......................just stating my opinion, lawrence.............or was this yours, since ours might just be the same...........?????...................very cool, btw.......................
...very, very light volume and only to purchase at 39 pennies for one day...............a big boy probably could only have sold for about 30 pennies and there was only a window of about two weeks.......................AND THIS WAS LONG BEFORE THE STIPULATION and pre-amy...........................SEC may not have yet created PISTOL PETE PUMA................the mole MM....................
...$1.15 p/s......SD, folks..........done deal........aimho.........
...was told 2+ years ago that the SEC is CONTROLLING the trading of UWBKQ...................per Dodd-Frank..................some provision allowing the SEC to CONTROL securities trading when special circumstances are present - - particularly when a government entity is somehow involved.............................
...this would not preclude a nice, handsome GENT with small ones from selling UWBKQ for 3 dirty pennies..............however, try buying a million shares..................no chance..........total lockout......and insider trading laws..............hello....??????
.....AGREED.........my point is that the FDIC has an interest in closing out the HOLDING COMPANY'S BK which is BAFFLING................why would they care in the least......?????.............holding company's BK means nothing to the FDIC.........$43,000 in cash, $60MM in claims...........no standing to sue, per amy......ETCETERA.......
...I know the FDIC and have worked closely with the FDIC for over 20 years (ahem!!!!!!)...................rabid dudes with tons of cash and no real over-seer.................these boys could write a $50MM check to us and take over our BK and run the table without a PEEP.......................which is what the FDIC is doing, btw.....
...WE - WE still believe there is lots of DRAMA left in this LOVE STORY.....................................might just be a whimper but with a pile of cash in coffin no: EIGHT....................
...my opinion, larry..........all mine..............ok, 93% mine.........
...SIMPLE SOLUTION to the current trading PARANOIA..................
...call Guy A. Gibson and asked him if WE - WE signed a STIPULATION with the OCC/FDIC whether technically connected to dropping the APPEAL or not.................................................
...good luck with that call...........if GUY did not sign anything and walked away - - he should say so.....................BUT GUY IS NOT APPROACHABLE ANYWHERE - - NOR IS OUR - OUR ATTORNEY............nor is our dutiful BK attorney.................BS uses the out of saying they only represented THE BANK and can't comment on the holding company......
...so WE WALKED WITH NOTHING........and we do not plan to fight for over $120MM in real recoveries......???????..............even the ITR check for $4.4MM is laying peacefully in an escrow account nobody claims and does not even appear to be included in the BK.....?????...............whatever............and the D&O suit is preposterous, imo - - blatant insurance claim, imo...........defendants only assets are shares of UWBKQ (worthless TP).........................
...ALL IN TO THE VERY END........................aimho.............ps: don't try calling YOU-KNOW-WHO......YES, HIM..........................mumbles obscenities, drops the phone and then screams to his assistant: "tell the f/ing nut to leave us alone"...................hmmmmmm.......admit to the STIP and send me a bill, lawrence...............aimho, again...........................
...THE BANK is long gone......the holding company is in BK.........
...the Intervenor/RECEIVER/FASCIST has absolutely no business whatsoever wheeling and dealing in the holding company's BK.....................unless Guy/UWBKQ approved the FDIC's involvement..............................
...the stock might only be worth a tenth of a penny PER.......no prob.................but THE FACT remains that tons of legal activities are going on within and outside of the bankruptcy.....................WE - WE have some theories........
...WE - WE will be compensated for allowing THE BANK to drop the APPEAL........................
...NO DEFEAT..........NO WIPEOUT...............WE WILL END IN VICTORY................WE WIN...................WARRIORS HEREON............STAY STRONG.......STAY IN FAITH........
...my problem: spent $43K+ on legal fees to date....................
...and what is the RESULT.....?????..........a stock MASSACRE.......
...also, what about my legal opinions and conversations with former bank attorneys..............??????????...............
...and if one or two of my legal opinions....OPINE that there is/was a type of settlement arrangement to DROP THE APPEAL....................where the F/ is it....?????............
...and why is the FDIC involved in UWBKQ's BK......?????.........this is the biggest PUZZLE..................
...0.001.......okay, I get it......................but why are our attorneys hiding like scared rabbits...........???????..........
.....WIPE IT OUT......who really cares.......??????................
...why the TORTURE.......??????..........the stock is BELOW worthless.........0.0001 p/s...............seriously....................
...what is the intrinsic value of 2.5 pennies p/s.....???????.....
...and why doesn't the BK Trustee divide up the $43,000 over the $60MM in claims and close it out......??????.............SEVEN MONTHS in the BK CT................FOR WHAT.......??????.........billable hours for Timberly......?????....
...this ROADKILL is BIGTIME rotten.............HUGE..........
...end the NIGHTMARE............................