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Fear, a tool used by Fascists regimes. You "Fear" therefore you support the agenda fighting against said fear. Intolerance and lack of honest debate is the rule of the land.
Making that statement shows your "fear" on the subject.
"All effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand."
-Adolf Hitler
Some people see the world through a narrow prism and that will never change.
Socialism is an economic system, not a political one. I think you need to take Socialism 101 then come back and try that comment again.
Anyway, not sure that is why govt was created but lets concede that point. Here is a news flash, the govt is run by PEOPLE, the very people you say cant be trusted to run a truly FREE MARKET.
Well since you dismissed the entire argument right off the bat..
Well I am not quite sure what point your trying to make with the psycho analytical academic social argument but whatever....
You admitted to not understanding the point I was making. That point is that we collectively can elect good leaders, but only if intelligent votes are cast. We can remove poor leaders by not voting. It is a two way street, with checks and balances when used properly.
As for a free market... individuals make up the free market. Success is an individual achievement. Yes, success can be had by groups working together, however the end goal is to enrich oneself individually.
As for a Governing body that creates laws, it is always the collective group that elects Government, there is no singularity in that process. So there is a huge difference between the two.
Now, please answer my previous question, why does it not bother you that the politicians will not adhere to the same policies and mandates they require us to? It was a very cordial question and I would like an answer please.
It does bother me, but I am only one vote, I can't help that the majority vote is unwilling to educate themselves.
I'm pretty sure I answered these issues in my first post, intelligent discussion can be hard to find in our current society.
I hate to be the one to point this out, but a truly "free market" will never work. The flaw is at the very core of our being. All Animals adapt to the environment around them. We are the only creature capable of adapting our environment to us. There will always be individuals who will take advantage of others to enrich themselves. To be human is to guarantee corruption at some level in society.
We however as a species have realized this problem and that is why Government was created.
If we are to have a truly free market approach to health care and at the same time provide it to everyone, health care needs to be made non-profit. We as a species need to evolve past this notion that a basic fundamental need of our species should be made into a profitable enterprise.
The only way to force this would be through a system in which a governing body, of elected leaders, would create such a system in which this could be achieved.
The problem is NOT government, the problem is the lack of intelligence among Americans, to elect leaders that will do just that, lead. We elect pretty pictures and slogans, we haven't elected an intelligent leader in a very long time.
Now Obama is intelligent, that was obvious by him getting elected. However it is still obvious that the majority of the elected people who draft our legislation in Congress, both Democrat and Republican alike, are incompetent and lack the experience to truly deal with the issue. Why do we elect lawyers to make business decisions? Why is that? Are people so stupid they vote for a lawyer? Wouldn't a successful business man be a better idea?
Lawyers don't lead.. they interpret, that is the core problem in our Country.. we are the core problem because we vote for pretty pictures and slogans.. not intelligence.
All the research I have done suggests a single payer system is the best way to go when looking at all the other advanced Democracies and their systems. Hell, when you have people calling Obama's policies "Socialist" and at the same time holding a sign of the president looking like Hitler, you kinda have to wonder how smart these people really are. I doubt they could conduct any kind of research, at least from an educated sense. Hell.. confusing Socialism with Fascism is a pretty easy thing to do.. if your an idiot.
I would have to agree with the poll numbers. I live in Texas, a conservative State, and I hear more people supporting a single payer or public option more times than I hear against it. Most people can use Google nowadays, doesn't take much effort to research these different systems.
Don't worry, having a single payer or public option isn't going to cause the good ole U.S. to become a Socialist country where we will all be standing in line for bread. We happen to be the only advanced, modern Democracy on the planet that doesn't have universal health care. That is a point I'm surprised nobody points out.
Folks been trying to warn you guys about that forever now and nobody listens.. just calls them bashers. The company has a history of selling shares and nothing has changed to make anyone think otherwise.
The R/S was so they could issue more shares, not so they could up list. That was just the smoke and mirrors to cover for the R/S. Now that they can't R/S because they are all jacked up with their reporting, they are forced to raise the A/S.
Of course my opinion.. you need to have your own.
You can get them at Taco Bell.
Was only a matter of time, I wonder if LGBS and MIMS will get looked at too. I think they were created by that same group as shells, which I believe is a no-no.
Interesting turn of events but not really a surprise. I feel unloved, nobody ever contacted me during this investigation. Don't know that I could have been any help though.
I'm Libertarian.. so of course I'm for abolishing most welfare hand outs. Your making an invalid argument though. Your using one area of data without getting to the core problem.
Why is it that so many people are on Government hand outs? Get to the core of the problem and fix that.
Typically people who are subsidized by the Government are of a lower education level. This means they typically have lower paying jobs. When your getting taxed at a rate of 30%+ and making only $35K a year, you are going to have a rough life. You will make just enough to survive and will never be able to afford education or job training to help you prosper.
The problem is most of you have never had to live in that situation. When you are poor and desperate you will find ways to milk the system to ease your burdens. For many, they make MORE money on subsidies than they do working.
This issue is far more complex then you want to make it out to be. There is a reason why most scholastic intellectuals, successful investors and many on Wall Street support the Democrats.
What you call "Socialism", having those of much higher income, take a more equal share of the burden, would actually take more people OFF welfare. We have to make it an unattractive option to get people off of it. To do that, we have to first rebuild the middle class. To much wealth has been moved offshore, or into the hands of a small few. The middle class is no longer able to pump or economy.
From The Times
June 28, 2007
Mr Buffett said that a Republican proposal to eliminate elements of inheritance tax, which raises about $30 billion a year from the assets of about 12,000 rich families, would broaden the disparity between rich and poor. He added that the Republicans would seek to recover lost revenue by increasing taxes for the less prosperous.
He said: “You could take that $30 billion and give $1,000 to 30 million poor families. Or should you favour the 12,000 estates and make 30 million families pay an extra $1,000?”
Nobody is denying the fact that higher income people pay MORE taxes in dollar figures. Nobody is arguing that higher income people pay a larger percentage of the total taxes paid. That is NOT the point. The point is everyone should pay EQUAL taxes based on a percentage of their income.
The reason our economy has tanked is because the driving force behind our economy, the middle class, has been squeezed to the breaking point. They can no longer afford to save money. Our tax system in essence taxes our savings.
It doesn't bother you that the top 1% in this Country have more wealth than the entire bottom 95%? That is not Socialism, that is Fascism.
He paid more.. but he made a whole lot more. How is it not fair for everyone to be taxed equally? Just because somoene makes more doesn't mean they should pay less.
I do agree with you on the consumption tax and it is something I strongly favor. However, to not see the current system is tilted in favor of the ultra rich is simply to be ignorant. To call making that system a little more balanced so the lower income person isn't burdened in taxes because he only makes $35K a year "Socialism" is simply absurd.
To call Buffet a twit... one of the most successful investors in the world.. hell I wish I could be half the "twit" he is.
Are you F'ing serious with that question? This line of thinking is EXACTLY why our Country is in the toilet and Republicans are becoming a minority. Every day more and more average people are waking up to this huge discrepancy.
Do you think a guy that makes $60M a year should pay any less than a guy who makes $60K a year.
Lets look at the dollars for each group..
At $60,000 that is $18,000 in taxes, leaving the guy making $60K only $42K.
The guy making $60M pays $10.8M leaving him with $49.2M.
Do you think the guy with $49.2M is living a rough life??
Ya know Buffet was right when he said that Republicans think..
"I’m making $80 million a year – God must have intended me to have a lower tax rate.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/tax/article1996735.ece
Again, a complete and utter incompetent interpretation of the term.
Marxism is The fundamental ideology of communism, it holds that all people are entitled to enjoy the fruits of their labor but are prevented from doing so in a capitalist economic system, which divides society into two classes: non-owning workers and non-working owners.
Raising the tax rates of the most wealthiest Americans to be more in line with what the rest of the population pays is not Marxism, Socialism or Communism... it is simply the fair thing to do.
Under the Republican tax system, the top 1% of wealthiest Americans paid on average 18% in taxes where the middle class paid 30% in taxes.
How the hell is that not Socialism for the rich?
No one has yet to explain to me how anything Obama has proposed is "Socialist". I could easily give you dozens of examples how the Republican Party, dominated by Evangelicals is in fact FASCIST.
One last thing..
LOOK AT THE DATE OF THE ARTICLE!!!!!
This has nothing to do with Obama.. this was written in 2007!!!!!!
R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N-S Killed the middle class with their so called "tax cuts"
Even Warren Buffet is smart enough to see this.. back in 2007!!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/tax/article1996735.ece
You didn't answer my question. Please show me where the rich are going to pay MORE than the middle class and that the Rich will be paying more in taxes.
Again. REPUBLICANS are the ones who re-distributed the wealth.
Did you read this article??
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/tax/article1996735.ece
Did you ??
Surrounding himself with Radicals?? The Right is full of them... they are called Evangelicals.
"searching for total wealth distribution/Socialism"
You do realize that under the Bush tax cuts, individuals who made large amounts of money paid less of a percentage of their income in taxes than the middle class right?
I get SOOOOOOOOO fricking sick seeing the term "socialism" being used to describe Democrats. Socialism is an ECONOMIC system.. say it with me.. E- C - O -N - O - M - I -C system not a political one. Please take the time to understand the definition.
Here maybe learn a thing or two..
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/tax/article1996735.ece
The Republicans introduced "wealth re-distribution"... they funneled money from the middle class to the rich.
Did you know that the taxes Obama wants to raise on the rich would just barely bring them to what the middle class already pays percentage wise??? I assume you can do basic math correct?
So explain to me how that is "socialism"? Please... for all of us here.. define how it is "socialism". By that thinking one must conclude that Republicans are "fascists" correct?
It is so freaking easy to just be the lemming isn't it???
All effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand." -
Adolf Hitler
FEED Breaking out.. go long
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Hey.. that's a nice place to chill and trade. Your missing the Corona bottle though ha-ha. It doesn't get any better than water front. I live in the boring suburbs.
$2.1 here, dated 5/21, closed out $3.6, +71%. The $2.38 break was my signal to go long. Now what can I add... hmmmm
Hehe.. yeah made a little coin today.
Continuous late filings can be a symptom of poor internal controls. Always something to consider when evaluating management.
I believe that would be illegal insider information would it not?
Even though I'm an Obama supporter, he has not done nearly enough to promote a healthy lifestyle. I mean let's face it, most of us here are investors, we are always looking at the core of an issue to determine investment value. The main reason we have such skyrocketing health care costs is because we have such a skyrocketing population of unhealthy people.
Obama nominated Dr. Regina Benjamin for Surgeon General?? A fat woman who worked for Burger King? WHAT THE F^*&?
What kind of role model is that!?!?!
That new reform bill from Backus.. complete garbage.
Your serious right? You really believe that? That 1% have hired armies of lawyers, lobbyists and special interest groups to make sure we have laws in this country that continue to make them rich.
Did you know average people pay a higher percentage of their total income in taxes than the "elite" rich do? The when someone suggest raising taxes on those individuals, which still wouldn't bring it to the percent average people pay, we start hearing people scream socialism? huh? Can't anyone do math?
What is so laughable is the very people who scream "socialism" the loudest are the very same people who are getting screwed by the system the most. Yep, the top 1% through special interest and lobbying money have spread their propaganda to the very idiots who will believe it most.. the Religious right.
What better group to market too, they will believe anything if the word God or Jesus is mentioned in the same sentence. Don't Elect the smart guy because he is "pro-choice".
At some point America became full of stupid people and the 1% are sapping them for everything they can. IF you call that working their "Azz off"... then yes.. for the last two decades they have done a damn fine job.
Then using the term "elitist" is an inaccurate use of the word. Maybe, "wannabe elitist liberal" or "He thinks he is an elitist liberal" would be better phrases.
I've noticed many have tried to demonize the word "elitist" as if it is something negative. Personally, we need more "elitist" in both industry, education and government in our Country. The top 1% of our Country control more wealth than the 99% of the rest of us. Another word I find amusing that is used frequently is "socialism" or "socialist". It is hard to swallow that term when "socialism" is an economic system.. not a political one and last I checked.. yep.. 1% have all the wealth.
If there has been any "transfer of wealth" it has not been from the top down. I have yet to see anything "trickle" in our economy.
"All effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand."
Adolf Hitler
""fascism - A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism." American Heritage Dictionary, 1983
When did becoming an "Elitist" become a bad thing? When did being normal, or stupid, or lacking intelligence become the high road? It is almost as if the people that push that slogan want people to be stupid... oh wait they do!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitism
What is more interesting is the company doesn't seem to be denying the allegations.
Oh really? Hmmmm..
I must be looking at different filings then you are.. which ones are you looking at?
New tranche must be due..
Curious why this is getting pumped and showing back up on the top 15. I guess the next tranche is due on there toxic debt.
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I've done stuff like that before. An example, I have moved the majority of my cash into long positions. I have $80 total in my account. I get slapped with a $20 margin call because my ECN provider has drafted my account for $100 for my monthly software fee. What do I do? Sell off some of my least favorite stock to cover the margin.. at whatever price I can get it at.
Or, maybe I'm trying to exit a position, and nobody is paying attention to my stock and there is no liquidity. I hit the bid to grab some attention. Maybe someone will now bid high enough I can get out.
Maybe I'm trying to make the stock look bad because I want to buy more. The sell side liquidity has dried up and buyers have also dried up. I want more shares but I don't want to pay the ask. I can sell off a few as a sacrifice in the hopes someone will bring their offer down.
Never be amazed at what happens in the market. Trading stocks is far more than just fundamentals and charts. It is a game, and you have to beat your opponent. The penny market is full of weaker opponents who lack both the experience and patience to play the game properly.
It has to take into account the warrants may be liquidated. Thus the impact too "fully diluted" EPS.
Promoters tend to wiggle out of these situations. Any promoter with any brains requires the company to handle the transfer and delivery of certs thus removing liability from the possibility of this very scenario.
Promoters are not the bad guys here, whether you agree or disagree with what they do for a living is irrelevant. This would be like holding the companies who manufactured the Spongetech banners at sporting events liable as well. Ultimately management of the company is responsible for these actions and the investor is responsible for mitigating his losses or gains. People have questioned the financial statements of SPNG for some time now and the company is run by known promoters. If this ends up just another P&D, then investors only have themselves to blame for their lack of experience in the market.
The SEC is not here to protect you, they are only here to regulate and govern the market.
Fascist America
Christian Evangelical Fundamentalism backed by large amounts of PAC money have turned our Nation Fascist.
I'm surprised we always hear the term "socialist" or "socialism" in the media and from political activists but we never hear the word Fascism mentioned. Currently our nation is much closer to a Fascist Nation then it is Socialist. Not to mention Socialism is an economic system, not a political one.
The Supreme Court case "Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission" could be the final move by Right wing advocates to solidify our Nation as a Fascist State.
http://www.scotuswiki.com/index.php?title=Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission
"All effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand." Adolf Hitler
"fascism - A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism." American Heritage Dictionary, 1983
" Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power." Benito Mussolini
For an attorney he sure sucks at using spell check and properly proofing his documents. I would have to say that was a fake, or the attorney is incompetent at proofing his documents.
As long as there is a reach around :P
Ah the front load.. how many pumps is this now?
Do you know what the current share structure is? I rest my case.
How do you know what book value is? The company is having to restate its financials.