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I just sold a big portion so it can go up now
Garbage day
There where 550,000 Shares available to short Friday.
Now the number is down to 250,000.
https://individuals.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?key=vrng&cntry=usa&tag=United+States&ib_entity=llc&ln=&asset=&f=4587&conf=am&amref=1
Sucker retail in and dump on em
Hope not but kinda lookin that away
I didn't for some reason or another alude to the prior 3-4 days of each increase in volume. But as you can see every time the price was was pushed down right before the volume exploded on the circled days.
But yes it is curious to me that somehow on the exact same pattern each 3 months something showed up out of the blue to create a bullish move and spike in the volume.
It was a pattern and in charting would be looked as so.
Was it coincidence well I'll leave that too everyone else to speculate on.
I just know from the charts that the pattern was interrupted slightly Wednesday which can be accounted for yes. The move Friday would be considered as "something different" in my mind.
So we agree just not on the reasoning of prior pattern volume shown on the chart.
Thanks Tob!
Looky here! Suggest to me that the accumulation may have been sped up by the recent news and maybe the buyer is getting nervous that HJJ will rule sooner than later. In the chart you see a pattern where whomever is playing the game was buying on a planned time frame 3 months apart. Either somone else stepped in, the shorts got prematurely nervous or the buyer is stepping it up a notch.
This is accumulation in it's perfect sense. Buy the crap out of it let it settle down (maybe short it a little) till it hits support then bang do it all over again.
Lol awkward is right. Good to see Google on their heals.
83 million Oustanding
10 million In Russell
7 million In Institution (prior to Russell)
4 million Insiders
leaves approx 61 million
51% of Outstanding is 42 million
19 million to float left
No Way they accumulate that many shares. The stock would hit $20+
You can find these approx numbers here:
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/vrng
Trending back up from 3.32 on the one min chart looks good for afternoon into close
I see typical short covering buy to cover then dump shares.
typical run also up .62 then pull back .31 from there the market decides if run will be valid by a move back up or down.
Here comes the explosion shorts can't fight it off yet
Here we go 3.25!!!! broke through resistance at 3.24 can it continue???
C'mon shorty cover now your gonna be squeeling when the squeezing starts.
It's getting close. EDVA and SA writers will start pumping this again soon. Volume is slowly declining either sellers are winding down or there are just no buyers either way a week or so and I believe it will start moving up.
Not sure what is behind this but I LIKE IT!!!!
This and that...tit for tat...lol
I personally see no reason for Google to settle. IMO they will play this out as long as the courts allow all the way through appeals.
Course that is only an opinion and who knows what they are thinking.
No contradictions here just waiting game. I hadn't heard of this company until it actually hit $3. I never invested until after the last split starting at .06 to .022
Is possible but unlikely we've seen it dip below .02 here and there and pop back to .024 someone playing the accumulation game imo. But I agree we need something to bring in some new investors.
Somebody corect me but isn't it on Google to prove the workaround colorfully differs from patents now.
Only time will tell maybe we will see a slow move up in the next few days but I wouldn't count on much over 3.18 the shorts protected that area pretty well.
showing 250,000 shares available to short here at interactive brokers.
https://individuals.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?key=vrng&cntry=usa&tag=United+States&ib_entity=llc&ln=&asset=&f=4587&conf=am&amref=1
I kinda doubt shareholders of Google are too worried about this lawsuit.
I'll consider stepping in to add if the selling of bigger blocks ever stops. Seems like the same story going on here that went on between .38 and .48. Keeps seeing lots of selling although volume is pretty low.
I'm curious do you have a position in VRNG?
If you do I'd like to ask why?
You certainly have a right to voice your opinion, I respect that.
Yep why do you think this is getting such a buzz in Washington now after 5 years? They see the cash cow going away if they just let them pay back and end c-ship. They for some reason think they can maintain those type profits but in the end they will destroy the housing market.
BTW to everyone the derivatives are what caused all this and that was ok'd by the same people blaming Fannie and Freddie and the banks. It also caused the 1907 market crash.
You trust our Government to do what is right? Money talks and if they think they can profit bigtime from this without destroying campaign contributions from Big money entities they will fight tooth and nail to make it happen.
I sure hope they actually do the right thing this time I doubt it though.
I agree with this statement(s) completely. The whole Google RR is just hanging over VRNG head like a black cloud. Once that is removed and the price settles back down(if there is a run) this company should be a good longer term hold. There's no predicting how litigation over patents will turn out but ZTE, NOK & MS (patents from MS) should be positive for the long term future of VRNG.
I for one appreciate your input/expertise here.
Thanks, and keep up the good work!
That being said, I think VRNG is a fine choice for a speculative patent investment, within the confines of a larger balanced portfolio. They have a great litigation team and experienced winners (Cohen @ NOK). The opportunity that I would like to invest in is the NOK mobile infrastructure portfolio VRNG holds. Unfortunately, it's not possible to make an investment in that opportunity while the dispute with GOOG is unresolved -- as the dispute has taken over the market's perception of VRNG and what a fair valuation may be.
Chart looks to me like entry point coming by Friday at 1.35-1.40 just my opinion
Just a preview of what can happen with a favorable ruling.
14:09 one min chart 850,000+ shares from 2.89 to 3.15.
Nice.
Good! I thought it would take longer for uspto to make a ruling
dbl post
Got this in my email. Could be why it pulled back today.
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I used to be a distributor and still get their emails from time to time. I am not in the stock right now but watch just to see if Icahn beats up Ackmen lol.
Seriously stay away from that board. Paid bashers, mis-information, and just plain goofballs. At the very least don't believe a word of it without confirmation.
Doesn't really matter what I like or dislike. What ever happens is going to happen either way lol.
Agreed I expected another push down or two to the 2.90 range Should be plenty of support in this range for a no news day. I would think accumulation range to stay 2.85-3+ till something happens anyway.
It's all about the " get rich quick" scam that is portrayed as patent litigation. They see these huge spikes in stock prices and think they can play with little or no knowledge.
Yes this was my first patent play. At first I was thinking the same. This process has taught me a lot. Had a lot of time to research the whole process throughout. There is big money made at times but the risk is also great! Trying to time these plays is a crap shoot.
Since there are so many uneducated investors in these plays one wrong word from a SA article ( most of which are written by uneducated authors) can drop the stock like a rock.
Anyways, VRNG stock price has leveled off to a reasonable risk/reward price. Now has support of around 10 million shares being taken off the market (Russell). It's boring right now yes. Most get rich quick traders are out IMO. Seems like when the pps drops below $3 there is a buyer scooping up shares (I refer to an earlier post of mine about both sides being played to accumulate shares).
Seems everyone focuses on just Google. With the google comes revenue from Microsoft then there is ZTE. Not a one trick pony here IMO.
But I digress as it is all speculation here.
I do have one question for everyone!
Do you think the 5% the Microsoft agreed to pay means:
1) 5% of total amount of googles RR
2) 5% of base % (given in the google RR) of Microsoft profit from patents.
Talk amongst yourselves this will be interesting to hear.
I've learned a lot from this stock and a few that post here.
Volatility is the name of the game. If you don't take advantage of the lows and highs you better be prepared to hold for a very long time. The justice system takes time.
Most of the hype is just that hyped up guesses that have no basis whatsoever. Don't be fooled these type plays are not for the laymen investor. I've been hearing $10, 12, up to $40 for 6 months these are outrageous claims IMO. Unless of course you are looking out 2years or so and everything goes VRNG way.
I still think HJJ will rule 3-5% of 20%. But that is only a guess with a little faith in the justice system. But NO ONE knows only HJJ can answer that question. He may not even know exactly what he is going rule for sure. If he is doing his job he is investigating every case that was brought in front of him as evidence. Idk exactly how many that is but it was a lot look at the pacer filings.
This could be up with the top 20 or so largest $ RR rulings in patent history. You guys don't think HJJ understands the implications of his ruling? Not saying it will be just taking the top possible judgement IMO of 7% of 40%. Btw not going happen IMO.
Does he feel peer pressure? You can count on it! Being overturned, the administration's looking down on patent trolling, googles relationship with the administration all verses precedent in cases ruled on in past.
If you have no faith in the system then you have no business investing in companies such as this one.
If you need more info check here:
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/TDCP/company-info
They have the outstanding a little different with unavailable float
Shares Outstanding 54,680,393 a/o Mar 25, 2013
Float Not Available
Shares Outstanding5:
64.67M
Float:
53.35M
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=TDCP+Key+Statistics
So what do you all think about todays drop?
A) Options
B) Frustration on time frame
C) Other