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I don't think that Sulja has ever approved of any extensions.
This is the website for the first folks that tried to sue SLJB... No mention of SLJB on the website??? Hmmmm guess things didn't work out, eh? link:
http://www.vianalelaw.com/index.php
Hey, you said it... not me! But, yes I will agree with that. We can all use a little time to relax!
Yep, I agree.
So the short version is: You can't prove it.
Thanks!
Prove it.
Where do I start with you? Addressing your attempts to incite civil unrest or staying on topic with your misrepresentation of current SLJB events? I'll start with the SLJB events.
The "operation" wasn't closed down. It was consolidated and expanded if you bother to read the recent verified PR's. Okay, that was easy... now on to the snide remarks about Canadians.
I know plenty of folks in Calgary that ARE NOT REDNECKS. Where do you come off making these assumptioins? Just who do you think you are? And to infer that one province as a whole is hateful to another province??? I've lived in Canada for several months and worked hand-in-hand with their military. I don't know if I've ever experienced a country with more national pride and sense of teamwork. Please stop with the Canada bashing.
Please and thank you,
Grande25
EarnestDD posted"
"But to close down a profitable 20 year operation started by your father in order to facilitate the move?
WOW
The Calgary market is certainly better than Windsors, but that market is already being aggressively serviced.
And Sulja will be a late entry with no previous experience in the Alberta marketplace.
And to be honest with you ... redneck Albertans dont really trust some people from Ontario because they have a way of treating us like they know it all and Albertans are colonists."
Man, that sounds familiar... I think I READ that somewhere!
Oh, yeah... it was in a recent Public Release made while the company is under OSC investigation... Hmm... I really doubt the company would be issuing lies in Public Releases during an OSC investigation!!! Oh, but of course the dispersers of fear and unreasonable doubt out there in cyberspace sure would like us to think otherwise...
This is going to EXPLODE once the dust of the OSC investigation clears!
Are you witholding some hard evidence that the OSC should know about? It certainly sounds like it from this part of your post, "...the release a financial statement that doesn't include the statements they made...".
To answer your questions, since you think it's more important to discuss my opinions than actual SLJB events, I think SLJB will be trading in Canada, US and perhaps other markets for a very long time to come.
To get more into events affecting SLJB all I have to say is look at the pictures in the info box above all the messages, call the company, visit the new Calgary location in a month, call the OSC and ask them to comment on Gary Rennie's Windsor Star article, ask Frenchy some questions since he's obviously already been there, and be patient. Watch and see what happens in the next couple of weeks. July is going to be fantastic!
I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion about my sentiment but I respectfully request that you restrain yourself from such activities in the future.
Please and thank you,
Grande25
Your previous post to me:
"So tell me Grande... Sulja has a couple new things going on. The new location with the new store sounds pretty good. Do you think they will still be publicly traded in the US if the release a financial statement that doesn't include the statements they made in '05 and '06? Do you think starting fresh in '07 wipes the slate clean and they can just move forward? This is the sentiment i gather from reading your posts over the last few days."
Spot on, ZigZagZen. Really makes you wonder about the validity and tone of his previous "news" articles.
;)
Thanks for the acknowledgement of the super Canadian builder SLJB!
I agree, SLJB is one hell of a builder of Canada... you might even say a Canadian super builder!!!
Go Canada! Go SLJB!!! Build Canada! Be spectacular! Be super!!! Build Alberta!!! Bring Canada historic economic growth!!!
This is what's happening folks! READ for your self, call the company, don't listen to obviously slanted fictional postings and news articles of those who seem to know so much about a company they have so little interest in. You'll connect the dots on your own... you have the power! Be super! Be spectacular! Build Canada! Build the middle east! Build the USA! Acknowledge the development of the global economic society!!! Be a mover and a shaker! Invest in a company that is moving and shaking!!!
Read for your self... READ, look, listen, judge... It's okay if you want to laugh out loud when you read Gary's most recent Windsor Star article.. Everyone else did too!
Is that legal? Can I just go out and start publishing news articles based on speculation? I mean, I guess publications like the National Enquirer do it all the time. So does that mean the Windsor Star is one of those tabloid publications I always hear about? I mean if that's the case and people use it to support their arguments as fact on this message board then the president was abducted by space aliens and mentally transplanted into the body of a vampire-baby, right?
Just wondering...
I never said it was worth risking what I'm not comfortable with. This is a great buying opportunity for me and I'll be picking some more up as soon as funds finish transfering to my account.
I'll be sprinkling on whatever I think is manageable :)
Amen, brother.
I think you are right on the money with everything you just said.
You called me a liar, lady. That's a name and it was uncalled for. And you DID misquote me.
Have a nice day, some of us have real jobs to go to.
Accumulation going on. Longs aren't selling IMO. Steady millions of shares being traded daily... This will go one way or the other and soon in my humble opinion.
I never said they weren't facts. Everyone can read, EarnestDD. We all know what's going on here. However, the weight and validity of said facts are what will be determined by the OSC... not you.
No one knows for certain the validity and/or weight of any of the known issues you have brought up here except for those involved directly with the OSC investigation. Everything you've posted about these things are speculation and opinion until the time of resolution in this OSC investigation.
That's not my opinion, that's just the way it is. We all have to wait for the OSC investigation. Yes there was PR retraction. However, again: the validity and/or weight of that and other issues IS pending.
This is why we have the OSC and SEC. Otherwise everything would just be determined by public message board lynch mobs/popularity contests. Thank goodness that's not the case.
There is no eternally damning event against SLJB so far and no matter how much you speculate you will not produce material evidence of such on this message board.
Posted by: EarnestDD
In reply to: Grande25 who wrote msg# 275163 Date:7/6/2007 12:02:18 AM
Post #of 275164
What part of being a problem dont you understand?
- retracted Press Releases
- OSC investigation
- SEC inquiry
- failure to deliver audited financials.
- auditing firms claiming no involvement with Sulja
- Wessal "disappearing"
- Red Sea who?
- etc. etc.
Okay, again that is your opinion and in my own opinion you have not considered all the details here. You are saying that no company would want this but that statement assumes that all companies are the same.
All companies are not the same. Some companies are small, some are big, some are well established and some are becoming established. If SLJB comes out of the investigation proving themselves legitimate then SLJB will have an official investigation backing their legitimacy. I thought it was a pretty simple and straight forward opinion that I've described.
Uhh, no... I did not. This is your post that i replied to:
"SLJB is NOT a Canadian super builder institution. This is a mischaracterization of the company's business, a lie."
Now, this is what you quoted me as saying in your last reply to me:
"SLJB will release Audited Financials that will erase doubt about the legitimacy of this Canadian super builder."
Number one, your post IS a personal attack in that you are calling me a liar.
Number two, I never claimed Sulja to be an institution... What I did say is that SLJB is a Canadian super builder. That is my opinion... Everything I post here is my opinion... EVERYBODY here knows that! I think SLJB is a Fantastic builder of Canada, the US and the ME. They are super, thanks for asking!
Later, in another post i referenced the institution of Canadian building and how the OSC investigation bears positive impact on that institution. I even defined what an institution is just for you... but I don't suppose you take the time to read an entire message before you go into attack mode.
Now, stop calling me names and mis-quoting me!
Please and thank you,
G-25
I never said they were... You okay?
I encourage all who read this board to do your own research and make your own investing decisions.
Folks, the OSC investigation is validation of the legitimacy of SLJB. So many long term investors of SLJB are pleased about how things are going with this investigation. It is clear by the lack of any easily conclusive (CKYS-like) events that SLJB is doing just fine here.
I will not respond to all of the personal attacks made on me this night. Accusations that I have lied or that my identity is that of any key SLJB personnel (past or present) is just absurd. I'm just a common hard working young man. I've only said my opinions from reviewing the events in front of me: OSC investigation, follow-through by SLJB on recent PR's, obvious networked defamatory attacks on this message board, and dozens of REAL employees of SLJB that are hardworking in support of the Canadian super builder institution.
What is the Canadian super builder institution? Is it SLJB? SLJB is a company. Here are some examples of Institutions: Banks, Insurance companies, Education, Law Enforcement, Construction, etc. Canadian super builder institution is comprised of the synergetic efforts by not just one business but by the efforts and products of several. In my eyes the construction business is an institution: Regulations/building codes apply, specialty education for the practice exists, and so on.
It's clear there are a lot of people here that are REALLY unhappy with the fact that it appears the allegations against SLJB will not be brought to trial. The settlement that seems to be the only reasonable way of resolution (therefore "forced") really has a lot of people that are clear haters of SLJB on the remorseless ropes of defeated rantings. However, SLJB will soldier on despite the nay sayers and doomsday theorists.
SLJB is a legitimate company and this is becoming easier and easier to verify. Thank goodness for the OSC investigation that is adding more and more perceived credibility to a Canadian super builder institution.
Cheerio!
100,000 shares of SLJB is good for your money at this low PPS! It's even better for your money if you hold for more than a year because of lower taxes should you decide to sell.
SLJB over the next 5-10 years will be doing fine!
All in my opinion.
Yep, we've come a long ways since back then.
SLJB and her owners are much more disciplined now. Older and wiser, I'd say!
Good post, BooDog!
Good post. You only lose money if you sell for a loss. A lot of people were just too impatient with this company. Just look at them now! OSC being forced into settlement instead of being able to bring any of the allegations to an actual trial??? Wow, that's huge and something that only smart investors who did a lot of their own investigating could have ever forseen.
This SLJB story is FAR from over folks. Stay tuned, learn from history and make some money!
(this part is a little off topic but relative... I was in another penny player a few years ago: INLM. I was actually losing money on it for a few months... think i'd got in the .30's and it was in the .20's for what seemed like forever... obviously it's recovered i think I saw it in the .80's or .90's the other day... Must be patient, people)
Read all the PR's folks. Understand that SLJB is following through and being far more disiplined and responsible over the past 4 months than it was one year ago. You can hop in after the AF's but you'll miss out on this ridiculously low PPS.
Look at the PPS right now, you can buy in for .013. But I bet it will jump immediately to .015 under the slightest pressure and the bid will continue to sit at .01. Pretty obvious that at these levels flippers aren't really having fun and folks are just trying to make money off weak hands.
Grand opening is reportedly scheduled for July 15th at the new location in Calgary. Big difference in economy and market between Harrow and Calgary! You may have heard of Calgary before. That's the place they had the winter olympics and it's rumored that the olympics are coming back to Calgary...
There is risk involved here. Will Sulja's expansion pay off? In my opinion yes! This is one risk that I think is in the investors favor. Alberta is world renowned for its current economic growth. With that growth comes a demand for new dwellings and all sorts of new structures that will require lumber, drywall, concrete, and all the other things that Sulja will offer at very competitive rates.
Even riskier is trying to time a buy in... We are all awaiting AF's. There's no way in hell anyone will be able to buy in at current PPS once the AF's come out. This stock is a time bomb at the moment.
G-25
The picute says it all... LOOK at all that space! This is significant!
Uhhh, what? Care to explain how you have "no doubt" in agreement with me and yet what I've said is merely an "inference"? And to answer your question I'll just say that I know it's the "same warehouse" the same way you do. Looking at the pictures it's pretty obvious!
Seriously, is it your main goal to embarrass yourself by being nasty to other investors in a public forum? What did I ever do to you to deserve these condescending and irrational remarks?
"Really? How do you know it's the "same warehouse"? I have no doubt that it is, but once again, as with the matter of the idiotic "Seek and Destroy" PR, you're dealing in inferences, not facts."
Excellent post! Verification of several SLJB PRs! Correlation of Sulja truck to previous pictures of the same wharehouse that Frenchy claimed all along would be a new focal point for SLJB. This adds credibility to Frenchy's posts. You can now go back and look at Frenchy's posts with a sense that this is someone who knows what he is talking about.
The same just can not be said for some postser on this board that only attempt to spread fear and unreasonable doubt.
Trust but verify. Thank you for the verification, Frenchy.
"Ok, you refuse to employ logic and/or actual information."
My logic is that the OSC hearings will provide the only "actual" valid information, not this message board. I provided "actual" information in the form of a quoted PR. A PR released during OSC investigation proceedings.
What's that hammering sound? Hmm, must be those SLJB 2x4's of righteous indignation getting hammered into the coffin of fear and unreasonable doubt.
G-25
It's a non-issue for this message board to produce specific case file numbers or reveal private information because no one on this board is investigating this. The OSC is investigating this and we'll all soon have the answers.
Posters on this board are revealing their true negative intentions for SLJB at this time. People are making grande insinuations about SLJB that they themselves CAN NOT verify!
In my opinion folks, look at some post histories. Dissecting and twisting the words of SLJB PR's (Machiavellian word manipulation) and then using terms such as "lead you" and "steer you". Does anyone really observe comments like that and not feel the hair on the backs of their neck stand up?
read the PR, it's that simple:
"A spokesperson for the company said today the SLJB has had its first success in dealing with one of these scandalous persons and are now in the position of collecting damages tied to the outcome of the legal proceedings which followed the identification of the guilty party through the discovery of their IP (internet protocol) address that they utilized to post their unsupported and slanderous attacks on both business and personal issues involving the company."
Excerpt from SLJB PR posted during OSC investigation:
"A spokesperson for the company said today the SLJB has had its first success in dealing with one of these scandalous persons and are now in the position of collecting damages tied to the outcome of the legal proceedings which followed the identification of the guilty party through the discovery of their IP (internet protocol) address that they utilized to post their unsupported and slanderous attacks on both business and personal issues involving the company."
Legal proceeding + success = SLJB beneficiary = Faulty Sandbath comments.
The OSC should easily be able to prove or disprove this communication from SLJB. If the OSC continues the investigation without disproving the SLJB "claim" then you are wrong and libelous. Until that time comes you really should stop spreading fear and unreasonable doubt.
Please and thank you,
G-25
Man, I'm not enumerating your libelous claims about this legitimate business.
No thanks!
And by the way, you continue to hang on to this legal issue scandal man in the grassy noll theory while you've admitted yourself that you know very little about legal proceedings.
It's a dead horse and you've lost the debate. There were legal proceedings and SLJB was a clear beneficiary of the legal events that took place. That is the BOTTOM line.
Move on, please! What is your next topic of fear and unreasonable doubt that you'd like to discuss? Please keep it fresh.
G-25
Low blow there with the personal attack, Sandbath:
"earnest, Grande is woefully misinformed and/or simply blindly believes what he's told."
This is far from the truth, by the way. I have not been misinformed and I do not "blindly" believe ANYTHING!
Now, STOP the personal attacks.
Please and thank you,
G-25
Yep, there was a court in Windsor. Default decision to plaintiff. Known on-line basher found at fault and also disappeared off a few message boards along with another known basher shortly thereafter.
As for levity.. Yep i-flubbed that one. Good catch there! There's a word I never use! My apologies to the Hockmir!
Think I meant to say "gravity"!
It was late, I was tired, I was distracted by swarms of Africanized honey bees, etc etc etc.. Hey I own up to my mistakes... How bout you?
EarnestDD,
Understood, thank you for correcting your statement.
I too would like to see what you have requested of Hockmir.
Hockmir,
Sir, I have read previous posts in which you posted relevant data and it brought me joy. Although I know EarnestDD is in no means deserving of satisfaction (based on his post history) I emplore you to entertain this board with your current DD in a reasonable time frame.
Don't worry Hockmir, whatever you post is taken with a grain of salt as would be the same for the rest of the moronic post on this perpetual board conjecture and hearsay.
I trust you Hockmir, my friend. I've read your post history and have truly been impressed by the levity of your argument.
Let er rip, my man.
G-25
Soon, SLJB will release Audited Financials that will erase doubt about the legitimacy of this Canadian super builder. SLJB is a family oriented enterprise. True longs that have invested in this company know this to be true.
The fact that you find it unfortunate that you have family matters to attend to alarms me about the type of person you are. Should I listen to someone that considers family affairs to be an unfortunate event in life?
I hold my family values to be something that I would LIVE and DIE for. I'm sorry EarnestDD but I fail to see where your family values coincide with mine and I think that is 100% relevant to the fact that SLJB's family values are far more tangible than your own.
Good luck to you with your path in life...
If I have mis-read you then I apologize and I truly believe that you deserve a chance at revising your stance on family affair.
Posted by EarnestDD:
I thank you for your mentorship and if I get time tomorrow I will call Leslie.
Unfortunately, I have some family matters I have to attend to.
I am saddened by the fact that you will not help out the board in my absence.
Have a good nite Hockmir.
KEEP IT SIMPLE:
SLJB engaged in legal proceedings regarding slander/libel. Success was achieved.
End of story.
You'd like details, we'd all like details. The details we get are from SLJB IR, SLJB PR's and from looking into the facts presented in the world in front of us. Things can be settled legally and privately without you being able to go in and find anything on "google" about it. I'll accept your acknowledgement any time.
You really shouldn't get so wrapped around the axel regarding these legal statements (and they are "legal statements") made in SLJB PR's. Just relax and realize that the "long" awaited AF's are coming.
One word: settlement
Dig it!