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Form D? Nobody think/ knows if important?
Is it interesting that the offering is only $200k of which on $100k executed?
And of the $100k it is estimated that $50k in needed to pay officer/s of company?
Does this say they are cfp fro operations, but not enough money to pay the execs?
What gets me....is people say they are retail locations are sold out of product??? And they only borrow enough to pay execs, but not enough to keep product on the shelf?
Anybody....explain???
Anybody watching msnbc the Olympics channel? See the sports illustrated segment? With mp apparel all throughout? No verbals, just lots of visuals.
On a speculative note...I (thought) noticed that the minimum offer was only $10k....meaning mp doesn't need to borrow everything at this rate.
It may show that mp has secured $3 million if needed, but doesn't think (more imporantamtly doesn't want to assume) the debt at any specific time (pps).
Optomistically I see this as mp saying if they only need to incur $10k in debt, then that will be it......sound like they are pushing the limits of cash flow....if they pull off zero toxic and CFO by end of year????wheres the pps ????we only may be diluted 100 millin shares???
Not bad if I read that correctly (the possibility)?
Thanks for the clarification....I agree as well...it has been great to see all the recent filings and transparency is growing. Looking forward to seeing more in the near future.
That GNC article seems to point to a major increase in sales for Q4, but like you; I prefer the "is", rather than "seems, appears, may"!
Also I like the the fact that all the information regarinding MP is NOT being promoted by MP, but rather existing and solid companies with reputation....It's "seems" MP is keeping queit for a reason (regarding PR quality info)....the real question is why?
Don't hesitate to post in the future just because a few pointed replies.
Thanks
Wasn't tryinig to be harsh....just wasn't sure if I misunderstood? I am really have a tough time interpeting filings.
So you point was that it was stated for all the investment world to see in a hard copy SEC filing? Essentiay authenticating what we've been "told".....as we have been told things in the past; that weren't followed throguh with.
Thanks as always for info....
Did I misunderstand something? Is that per Q or something? I thought it was common knowledge that they would do between $25million and $100 million on the year??
I was hoping to see that column checked at $100 million or more?
Prefer to work for Pepsi (Gatorade) or MP?
Seems they are both looking for warehouse workers in Nashville, TN.
Just had to throw it in....probably coicindince, but with MP and them NOT communicating EVER....who knows??
GNC has made a change in their DMAA policies....right around the time that somebody here stated a new roll-out position in MP products at retail locations.
Will GNC now be promoting more heavily in retail stores and online.
Sounds like they made a roundabout statement compared to their previous opinion regarding use of DMAA...
Interesting the are taking a path that musclepharm has already been on.
http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Industry/GNC-backpedals-on-DMAA-and-prepares-for-launch-of-banned-substance-free-MARKED-range
Jltg, isn't the agreement at 95% of pps when the ask for funds? Meaning if pps os .05 next time they need money the buyer would buy at .0475 and only receive 50million shares?
Or am I mixing info again?
Justlovethegame would know better than me....but I would watch and see if VFIN shows up again. He showed up late in the day yesterday and it may have been to stabalize the PPS,,,,maybe because he was buying back??
It looked like VFIN took control yesterday....maybe he got the flippers to back off??
Thank you. Can you explain why it is mixed. I could see them dissolve of toxic by buying back shares as toxic is executed meaning no loss on balance sheet, but still ensuring leverage for the lender/investor.
I am lost?
Care to explain....if mixing numbers (it's obvious now that you replied and saw my "lost" conclusions)...one explanation would be enough to get me in right direction and I won't bother you with what I assume are naive questions??
Thanks
Thank you for that post. Do you understand/comprehend the 8ks?
Major issue for me (8ks).....had the same idea as you "both paths are similar". The deals sound fishy, but on a positive- fishy on both sides of the deal.
Based on what I know I would demand the same no matter my seat at the meeting that ended in these terms....atlesst based on how I thought I read them and my personal desperate situations and others that I have witnessed.....but as an entrepreneur I will go with an optimistic view and assume investor only tool the leap because his terms were granted
The idea of days to cover in this context was in regards that warrant holder is a owner as well...earning the better the balance sheet the better return on investment.....so as I "kind jesture" warrants holder is executing now at a low pps when he can without bringing pps super low (sub-penny)?
I got 46.25 million from the 50 million warrants less the form 3 of 3.75million shares?
I also thought a possibility was that with the anti-dilution right of agreement they may only take shares now based on the forecasted/contemplated R/S? Which would equal 1 for 20?
Someone said they think I'm missing info/mixing? Can you be more contrite?
Which would mean an execution of the agreements? So it is either a need for funds or a forecast of the r/s based on the amounts? Both? 20 to 1?
Really I'm asking??
Thing is I forgot where I "heard" or saw that if a reverse split happened it would be minimum of 100 to 1? Obviously that would kill a forecast of 20 to 1? Or does the most recent filings supersede all previous? They used contemplated in the last filing?
Don't put in an order of .03!!! It's gonna be hard to remember if it happens
Wouldn't mind to get your input on subject below.....yes I agree; I could only imagine all us retail longs dumping when the pps shoots up....thus it not sustaining, hence contemplation of r/s.
Thoughts on this?
EDIT: Then it was in yesterday's form 3....7.5 million shares and non derivitve 3.75 million shares.
Would that mean 46.25 to go? If so how many days to cover??
Would that also be considered a kind jesture by investor to execute at this price? Ensuring/helping q3 make a massive jump?
EDIT: Then it was in yesterday's form 3....7.5 million shares and non derivitve 3.75 million shares.
Would that mean 46.25 to go? If so how many days to cover??
Would that also be considered a kind jesture by investor to execute at this price? Ensuring/helping q3 make a massive jump?
Turokman, how do you interpret today's 8k-3?
It looked like they needed $30k to pay for something??? Not trying to guess what it is at this point....just wondering if I'm even comprehending even remotely close??
The last time i'llstaye this, as I think many of you now know....my knowledge comes from running a business, but with 2-3 less digits and not public (and dislectic).....
I just would appreciate more in depth replies as I am really struggling to understand this side of the game.
6 weeks and we will be selling somewhere new....again.
http://www.worldhealthstore.com.cn/Blog/whs-a-importing-over-80-of-what-we-sell-part-2.html
How many warrants does VNDM have to move?
Let's see??
Are we there yet??
If the float wasn't locked, then why would they increase the O/S (bear in mind, NOT issue O/S) as collateral for the loan.
But irrelevant with this PPS and volume.
If you do some math, you can see the investor has a potential value of 100million value on company for end of year.
I agree flippers are here. At the end of the day it is still good if its the same flippers coming in buying and selling their own shares and skimping a few extra off of the scared investors. Its healthy.
But how can you say the float isn't locked up when the PPS moves 25% and down....50% total on a total volume of .1% of the O/S
yes that is correct a total volume of .1%
Yup. Float is locked up...they only bought and sold their own shares. Probably made a $150 tops.
LAME!
But still positive....float is locked.
Agreed. You could have said it looks like float is locked up. PPS up?
Hypothesis, mp doesn't know how many warrants still exist....or the do and it's not public (yet).
This is....thought for a second.....awesome.
1. An additional pump is need to complete debt toxic retirement plan because some still holding to execute?
2. Warrants completed and pps grows naturally. As it has it's up 160% from bottom.
3. Both
Keith, I know you threw out ON compared to my Pepsi (Gatorade)....do you think this is a direction they are headed ????or just a plausible option?
Now if we can just get consumers to buy every unit on the shelves currently we will finally have our complete IC certification for all products back.
I finally "think" I have an understanding of the $3mill....and to be honest it's smells....but on a positive note it smells equally as bad on both sides.
This was not an easy deal to close, but if you read between the lines the investor is anticipating a $100 mill market cap by the end of this year.
Obvious, there nothing obvious about mp.
But from what I read I gather the following information.
They will be cash flow positive....my guess is $140k from operations.
The float is completely locked up....if we don't sell pps goes up.
Why did the issue 5million shares less than they PRed? Seems like they beat their own forecast.
As far as big new numbers? I'm gonna stay with 22 to 25 million.
Margins same to slight increase....much better for Q3.
In addition to the Ireland post I made earlier it looks like mp got past ANVISA and got creatine sellin in brazil (finally...good to see them ad another product there and get past the ANVISA hurdles...think this will show better for Q3 as well).
Could happen...but that was based on VNDM and vert going away...which they didn't.
Atleast HDSN is gone!
On the hand I did notice that SUNR increase their bid and MAXM came on board.
It was also good to hear that the BOD has the skill set to finance their growth and ensure the bills get paid.
And it was great to hear that Ireland has followed through with the ban on DMAA as well: http://www.ingredientsnetwork.com/news-content/full/ireland-outlaws-dmaa-products
What countries are up next? More market share for MP!
You guys better hurry up or I'm going to start posting positive information again!
I've been waiting for this power hour since last friday??
NO NEWS this week....then a bunch of news next week??
intersting that it took 5 million shares sold to go down 25%, but only a few hundred thousand shares to go 20%.
Just hold for a minute flipper.....then I'll take you up on the offer.
Also I'm only making the immediate guess if the previous mms Ienriomed aren't on the board.
Am I ruining your game plan or something? Plus I'm the farmer....you can buy me a beer or whiskey "neat"
Those were the mm's for buying / selling warrants.
If they aren't thee then nobody, but us message board panic people are selling. After the news 8k all those mms disappeared. Pps gapped down and held in the 15 to 20% red. Yet there really wasnt any selling. It was nite vs nite (games). 12 million shares that's .10% . "was" of o/s.
It's literally a technique which is "time" dependent....if we all hold pps will boom.....we essentially value their line of credit. If MP goes for a future loan and they say they already borrowed against and forfilled obligations at a $1miliin at .10 then we are worth .10!
This money borrowed was insurance pps may not sustain??? He covered the balance of any future warrant holders. He is basically asking the question who is in nd who is out? If Lot want out then pos will remain low and he will gain another %of company and 100 mill shares,,,but
Of everybody holds and you can dilute 10 million shares and generate 1mill capital it is worth it.
I feel luck...I never have md probably never will again know what it's like to control the pps! We could all agree for 2 days boy to sell sub .025 and hold rhiannon for 2 months...then wait and see what investor pays for shares??
They won't need the cash or investor is in at .022.....
I would love to see zero volume!
.10 by end of week if not by end of day....that is based on no vfin, vndm, hdsn, and sunr!
If they don't show it's .10 or more.
Of they aren't there, then we are finally getting current news that no more warrants exist...which means no more selling......which means pps goes boom.S
My IMO is buy/sell on sunr, them the other mms I listed....if they don't exist ...well have fun.
Ok thanks for that info....it's common thought. I can't wait for tomm.....watch? Think about how many shares out there, but how many ate locked up? No more warrants, no more selling! It's up to us...if you sell some one else sells etc pps will go down! If we hold we can atlesst buy time!
It's seriously up to us (the market)! Nobody sells for a quarter! Pps .10! Mp needs $1mill cash now it cost us 10milion shares (not 100million)!
Remember there are few of any warrants holders! Vfin,vndm, hdsn, and. SUNR all left L2!
No more selling equals????
MSLP
Does any investor know if mp wil be required to show an S1 before uplisting (is it dependent to which exchange?)?
Any body know if thy will have to line item more clearly (example apparel, semi-trailer, gym, gym equipment,etc)?
Those docs will obviously be long, but will they be available????for that matter are they already???just in a location I have yet to find?
Legally of course,,,,obligated
Does anybody know if the company must tell the shareholders and the market (potential shareholders of the future) that they are changing exchanges?
Is it considered and IPO?
Could it be considers and IPO?
In advance; Please provide response with something to back it up (a link would be appreciated)? I'll trade your info for my thought process.
I am new to trading public companies, but not biz...
I will say I'm optimistic.
Oh and I'll also pass on the I'm an idiot replies
That's why I was asking if he said r/s or reverse split or restructure? Your sure about the context o conversation? Not trying to a pain....
You don't even use caps and you still sound like your yelling.
You call me an idiot? What does we stand for in wecap?
We little brain, we little size?
What's the deal? Just don't respond to my post.....I am attempting to learn, but I can't even take your comments serious when you say I am an idiot and then you provide no substance.....I'm fine with being called an idiot, it's not the first time.....just tell me why and then it might be useful.
Thanks wewewewe