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They're really not gonna allow this to breathe at all..... RSI finally oversold and sitting at 23.x but they'll likely play their games and somehow bring it back up, while still driving us down.... And, of course OTCN still in control, but WTF are all of their shares coming from? I know that OTCM still shows the same OS, but I genuinely can't see where this qty of shares is coming from, unless it's part of that 900M that we still have no idea why they were even added.
That said, the question that I still have is: Since we are still not SEC reporting, is ENZC and/or their transfer agent required to update the OS on OTCM, or because we're not bound by SEC Reporting rules, are they allowed to hold back and update all at once when they're finished dumping?
Wow. What a shocker! Another 9% T-Trade (1.3M) less than lowest closing bid. But none of this nonstop beat down has been orchestrated…. Just biz as usual at ENZC!
Holy $h!T. They're actually about to drop that 04 artificial ceiling down to .035. I genuinely cannot believe what is going on here. OTCN just dumping away what has to be an endless pool of shares. Has anyone else ever been involved in a stock that was held to the exact same pattern for this long? 2.5-3 years straight now. Every day is the same. Unbelievable!
At least the RSI finally crossed into oversold at 26.x... And I'm guessing we'll see a T-Trade for around 800K shares at .033.034....
LOL... It would be nice, but I agree.... There's no way to create a short squeeze with ENZC when our crown jewel (C3), all of C-Level Execs & Scientists, etc.. are moving to SAGA. Any big news, especially the big news that most of us have been holding 3+ years for, will very likely be held until they can announce/disclose under SAGA.
I would agree CK.... That is what I'm leaning towards too.
The more I think about OTCN/INTL, the more I believe that SAGA is behind it. When this deal goes through, based on their current share structure + the 45M new added, current SAGA shareholders would only own about 8-10% of SAGA post deal. However, the more ENZC shares they buy now, the larger % ownership of SAGA they'll have post deal. I believe some of the selling was the newly unrestricted shares, but I believe a lot of the remaining is more about pushing the pps down as they drag out the deal, allowing them to buy as much as they can on the cheap. As long as each SAGA exec remains under 150,540,206 ENZC shares (5% of OS) each, they aren't required to file anything.
This has been going on since May non-stop, and there were only about 220M shares that moved to unrestricted, so the only scenarios I can think of are:
1. The OS on OTCM hasn't been updated and OTCN is diluting us with those 900M that were added.
2. The scenario (SAGA execs buying to increase post-deal ownership) I mentioned above. (OTCN/INTL recycling shares for purpose of controlling/pushing pps down as deal is dragged out)
3. Based on what we know is owned by retail on here, discord, twitter, etc..., I think #3 is unlikely, but I'll list it anyway. Some other very large shareholder or shareholders from a long time ago is dumping for some reason. However, we've traded roughly 1B+ since they started, which makes me lean more towards #1 or #2.
Those suggesting naked shorting, I seriously doubt it. I'm convinced what we've been watching with OTCN has more to do with this deal. I would like to think that if we we're being naked-shorted to this degree, our attorney CEO would actually address it. Also why I believe that the VIRT+OTCN combo that happens every time we break .10 is being done at the direction of a "friend" and/or "undisclosed partner."
Anyway, doesn't appear that OTCN is stopping anytime soon, but RSI is almost at oversold, so we'll likely see a tiny teaser spike soon, where the RSI magically jumps 13-20 points on 3M traded and +2%-4% green...
OTCN & INTL are not your typical Joe-Retail MM's. "IF" the OS showing on OTCM is correct and has not changed, then somebody with a ton of shares decided to sell them down here. But that's the problem I'm having with this. If you take all of the shares owned by retail on here, discord, twitter, etc, then add the shares held by Charles, Chandra, Harry, etc...., I don't believe there's 1B left to trade. We've traded around 1B+ since OTCN & INTL started, and they are easily responsible for 60-75% of those shares. So where are they coming from. I can tell you with 100% certainty that it's not Joe-Retail. If it was, the selling would be coming from CDEL, CSTI, NITE, GTSM, or ETRF, but that's not what's happening. 60-75% of the selling is coming from OTCN+INTL.
Tell me about it. Seriously, where are their shares coming from, and how many do they have? If you add up all the shares that we know are held by retail on here+discord+twitter+etc..., then add what Charles, Chandra, Harry, etc... have, how many are actually left vs current OS of 3,010,804,133? Between OTCN+INTL, tthey've gotta be approaching 1B sold since they began their beatdown several months ago, but according to OTCM the OS hasn't changed. So where are they coming from?
Nope. He's literally batting 1000. However, all I really want to know at this point (besides what happened to SEC reporting/Audit) is where are the OTCN/INTL shares coming from, and why are they selling? We're not talking about a few shares here & there, we're literally talking about 600M-1B, and at least according to OTCM, the OS hasn't changed.
Well, I lied.... I'd also like to know what Chandra was talking about 16 months ago when he said that we'd see a "Monumental Shift" in 6-12 months. For almost 3 full years, all we've seen is a daily beatdown day after day, with the occasional teaser spike for RSI reset, so they can get back to the daily beatdown without driving us into oversold.
Thx. I think that the same one as the last time…
What was the excuse given? “Due to a change in reporting requirements” or something along those lines?
Oops. Guess I’m late to the party, but knew it was coming. CC is batting 1,000 when I’m comes to filing late
This truly is getting insane/ridiculous. OTCN & INTL still going strong. Even if they were dumping part of the added 900M that we still don't know why was added, we've traded well over 1B shares since they began. Where are these shares coming from? It would be nice to see something on a filing today, but I think we all know that Charles will file late/NT-10Q instead, so another 10 days and maybe we find something out. I wonder how low they'll have driven us by then?
Another shocker... Hard push down at end of day. Never changes at ENZC! Same chart every day... And OTCN is still going strong. WTF are all of their shares coming from? We're easily talking about OTCN dumping somewhere in the range of 600M+ since they began, then every day ends with a T-Trade for roughly 8-10% of daily volume, and sold under the highest closing bid.
I seriously wonder just how low they're actually going to drive this thing. Here we are, 8 months into 2023 and sitting in 03's? Seriously? No update on the 900M added to AS. No Audit. No SEC Reporting. No Monumental Shift. And as I posted earlier, around and around we go...
Yeah, this is just getting ridiculous. At what point does it end. At what point does Charles or Chandra follow through on anything they've promised? Every day, just pushed down further an further, then a tiny rsi-padding-spike, so they can continue pushing down further and further. Truly is unbelievable that we're sitting where we are.
Still no Audit
Still no SEC Reporting
Still no monumental shift
Still no IND or anything on C3
We'll likely get another NT10Q tomorrow for another late filing
And around and around we go....
Dyno I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but the pps was beaten back down intentionally by VIRT+OTCN, the same way they did it Jan 2022. The second we broke .10, VIRT immediately appeared with OTCN, synced up their algos, and that was all she wrote. The other stuff played a part, but they were the main reason and they stopped if from going as high as it should've.
They did this until we were safely back under .10 with .2-3 cent's padding. As I've said many times on here, I have never (even in OTC) witnessed anything even close to what they did, and how obviously they did it...
Completely agree. Honestly, I'd be happy with an update on the following:
1. What happened to Audit/SEC Reporting? We were still getting #Audit & #Uplist tweets not that long ago, and I'm sure they were talking to SAGA at that point.
2. The AS was increased by 900M shares, but no filing or clarification to go with it? Very odd, even for OTC.
3. What ever happened to Samsung & Clone 3? Enzo? Could be part of an NDA, but at this point I think they're holding back all news that could benefit ENZC shareholders (especially those of us who held and stuck by them for 3 years) until SAGA is done, and they can announce/disclose it under them.
4. More than anything, I would've like to see them address the non-stop control that has plagued us for almost 3 full years. Like I've said more times than I can count, VIRT+OTCN did not appear with synced up algos both times we broke .10 by accident/coincidence. They are/were operating under the direction of somebody.
One would think, but every other time over the past 2.5-3 years that we've seen the unrestricted shares increase, it was always followed by endless selling (PAUL, STXG, OTCN, etc...). Also, we don't know what these people paid for their shares, and some of them could've paid par 0.0001, so if there sitting on 20, 50, 100M shares that they got at 0.0001, it's probably tempting for them to sell pocket million$.
At the end of the day, I'm just guessing like everyone else. This selling with OTCN just seems a bit different though, because of the qty that they've sold over the past 3+ months, and still going strong. Then no different from the pattern over past 2.5-3 years, each time we see the RSI approach oversold, we see some tiny green day with little volume, yet the RSI jumps 10, 15, etc.. points, providing them the padding to keep doing what they're doing.
Yeah, that was exactly my question Valuator. I know OTCM has been updated, but given that we are still not SEC Reporting, if the OS changed (some of those 900M sold), would Charles still be required to update that? I honestly don't know the answer, which is why I was asking. I just can't see where else this qty of shares (that OTCN's been dumping) is coming from. 1-2 months ago there were roughly 220M+ shares that moved to unrestricted, but since OTCN began their beatdown, we've traded roughly 1B+.(5X the qty that moved to unrestricted)
If I had to guess, based on history, I'd say RSI reset. RSI now back at 40, but I guess we'll see as we approach 2:30PM... OTCN still active with what seems to be endless shares.... I know volume is next to nothing, but they're still active & selling after easily selling 500M-600M+ over the past 3 months.
The company did. They just increased our AS from 3B to 3.9B.
Strange trading (aka control/manipulation), yes. This qty of endless shares, coming from same MM, and coming from unknown, No.
Prior to this (STXG, PAUL), we knew it was coming from newly urestricted shares or the Zhabilov trust, but with OTCN, where else could this qty be coming from? Only 220M+ recently went unrestricted, but we’ve traded over 1B since OTCN began, and OTCN had been responsible for at least 50-60% of that.
I’m not saying that Charles is selling as an individual Rockie, just I’m leaning towards OTCN’s endless shares coming from those 900M.
Timing - If you had to guess, where do u think they’re coming from? I hate to think that he’s do this, and I’m still not certain on the rules of updating the OS on OTCM, but I think the only place they could be coming from is Charles and those 900M shares that still have no clarification as to why they were added. I would like to think that Charles would update the OS on OTCM, but I just don’t know where else this type of qty could be coming from?
And with OTCN now sitting the ask in the 03s, and PUMA lined up behind them, I imagine we'll see that artificial 045 ceiling drop to 04 very soon. We'll know when we see a shift in L2, and by some miracle 3-5 MM's all stack under 04 at the exact same second. Wash+Rinse+Repeat
It would be great if we new where OTCN's shares were coming from. We've traded almost 6X the amount of shares that went unrestricted recently, so I really don't believe that's it; and I think it would be a safe bet to say that at least half of those we've traded have come from OTCN. So where or who are they coming from?
Same pattern daily. Opening teaser, then drop. Hold the artificial ceiling throughout the middle of the day, then as we approach closing bell, push back down as far as they can. They've been working the charts perfectly too. The other day we go from .0404 to .0445, trade only 3.4M shares and the RSI jumps 13 points, leaving plenty of padding between it and oversold. We have since dropped from .0445 to .03s, traded over 20M shares, and the RSI has barely dropped 9 points.
None of this is by coincidence or organic. It just doesn't happen perfectly like this, and repeat the same daily pattern for 2.5-3 years without someone or someone's pulling the strings.
I personally have no doubt it's inside. Whether SAGA, ENZC, etc... This pattern doesn't go on for as long as it has, especially without ever once being addressed, without somebody inside knowing what/who/why it's being done. However, regardless of any of that, at this point (after 2.5-3 years of this) they have achieved their goal of completely turning retail off to buying, making it much easier to control as they see fit. Also, given that volume is so low, and OTCN & INTL seem to have billions of unlimited shares, it would take an absolute miracle to move this.
I sure would love to know what Chandra was referring to when he publicly stated 15-16+ months ago that we'd see a "Monumental Shift" in 6-12 months? Can't imagine what he saw or thought was coming?
I still want to know where the OTCN & INTL shares are coming from? Somewhere around 220M shares move from restricted to unrestricted a while ago, but we have since traded around 1B+ shares. The only thing that I can think of, is that they're dumping those 900M that were added without any clarification as to why and/or for who/what. However, since we're still not SEC Reporting, I don't know if Charles would be required to update the OS to reflect it. If he is required to, then that's not where they're coming from. If he's not required to, I would say it's a very likely possibility... It's just unbelievable how many shares they've dumped, and still going....
Well, it's almost 10:30AM (EST), so it's just about time to see one of those cliff-drop takedowns.... Let's see what they do...?
Depends on whether you want this deal to go through or not. IMO, The extension was to be expected..... As I said from the beginning, if this deal closes, it will be drug out til th end, meaning likely November. Their last (10th) extension will be Oct 23rd, so sometime between then & November 23rd.
Agreed, but unfortunately I don't think it's coming to ENZC. I believe it's going to SAGA.
What a great way to start the week! Opening takedown/cliff-drop, then close barely above low of day. Like I've been saying, that artificial 04 ceiling is coming up next. So today we trade 8M shares, drop 0.00315, and the RSI only drops 6 points. Last week we trade 3M shares, go up by 0.004, and the RSI magically jumps 13 points. Now they have the RSI padding they need to drop that artificial ceiling down to 04, then it's wash+rinse+repeat..... But what else is new at ENZC?
I'm pretty sure if it was some kind of takeover, it would've been addressed. I personally think they'd know/realize it, and would've addressed it and/or taken some steps to end it, but who knows?
In regards to SAGA insiders buying, I still think that's very possible, but honestly I just don't know. However, one thing I am confident about and/or I personally am certain of, is that we are not down here organically, coincidentally, or by mistake. Both times we we started to see more of an accurate valuation, resulted in the same ending. VIRT+OTCX (Jan 2022) & VIRT+OTCN (May 2023) (I know OTCX & OTCN are same MM, but 2022 was X and 2023 was N) immediately showed up the second we broke .10, synced up their algos, and drove this back down without actually buying/selling. I always go back to this, because I have never seen anything even remotely close to what they did, and how obvious it was. Neither one of them are known for facilitating "Retail-Joe" trades either. I have no idea who were doing it for, but what they did was not organic by any stretch of the imagination.
Anyway, at this point it is what it is, but I just think it's getting a bit ridiculous. Pretty sure we've easily traded around 1B shares since OTCN began destroying this, so where are they coming from, and why are they selling? It was only something like 200M+ shares that moved from restricted to unrestricted, so if OTCN was selling them, they'd be long finished by now. I don't know the answer to this, but since we're still not SEC Reporting as promised many times, if Charles was unloading those 900M shares, is he required to update OTCM when he updates the other stuff? If not, is that what we're seeing with OTCN? I just wonder if we're wake up one morning and see that the OS has changed to 3.6-3.9B?
We haven't heard anything about C3 in years, and I personally think they're holding it back until SAGA is done, so they can disclose it under them, which I would consider a slap in the face. Anyway, I've been trying not to pay too much attention to this, but everytime I check back, we're exactly where I thought we'd be, based on the 2.5-3 year pattern. Hasn't lied to me yet....
I’ve always felt like this 2 1/2 year pattern could be a buyout or takeover coming, bc it fits, but Charles wouldn’t know in that case. And would it drag on as long as it has? Idk.
You could argue it’s so SAGA insiders could buy, but I doubt they were talking to SAGA that entire time when SAGA had another spac deal lined up just earlier in the year.
Maybe, but that pattern has been followed to a "T," for almost 3 years now.
Oh they're trying. The artificial ceilings are usually dropped/locked in by increments of .005, where our current artificial ceiling is .045. Next up is .04, and they are trying hard to get it there. However, without the little spike of +.0042, they wouldn't have been able to without driving the RSI below oversold; but since they pushed that little spike, they've got plenty of room to keep pushing down/dragging this out. ENZC is literally a combination of "Groundhog Day" + "The Neverending Story." Same thing every day and never ends.
Because somebody doesn't want it to. I have no idea who that somebody is, but I believe that ENZC/Charles & Co do know...
Also, something I told everyone the other day is that the tiny little spike from .0403 to .0445 that we saw, was nothing more than those in control padding the RSI. The RSI was all the way down to 32, which meant if they continued their pattern, we'd fall into oversold, and they couldn't let that happen. So some magical way, going from .0403 to .0445 raised our RSI 13 points and provided them with the padding they needed to continue the push down. Funny how that works.... We can drop from .0445 to .0403, and the RSI only drops a couple of points, but when we go the other way, it jumps 13 points? LOL... For example, today we drop from .0434 to .040, and the RSI hasn't dropped a full 5 points.
Lastly, it was a given they were gonna drive this down at the open, because they had the opening ask set at prior close vs up a little bit. Whenever they do that, it's ALWAYS followed by a takedown... Never fails.. They'll hold it under .0434 the remainder of the day. How low they drive us is anyone's guess, but history of this pattern tells me that.0434 is today's ceiling....
Beyond strange, but as I’ve been saying, intentional; yet never addressed a single time by our attorney CEO.
We are way beyond undervalued Poncewaves, but as I've been saying, it's not by accident. Right now it's just easily controlled on low volume, but it's how we were pushed down here that was 100% intentional. For 2.5+ years, we have been devalued with every PR, good news, positive test results, product to market, big name partners/collaborators, Patents, $450M deal, etc..., and regardless of what anyone says, that just isn't normal. Then we factor in Jan 2022 & April/may 2023 (VIRT+OTCN/X tagteam that immediately appears every time we break .10, then uses their synced up algos to drive us right back down without actually buying or selling).
I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again. I have never witnessed anything remotely close to what they've done to us here, and the fact that it's never once been addressed leads me to believe that ENZC/Charles & Co know exactly who's doing & why. But that's just me..... Either way, my point is that we are severely undervalued, but it's intentional.