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I am still not convinced that Kenactiv's numbers will be in wiyyh OPHI'S.
They appear to just own 98%. If not, why hasn't the symbol changes, like it did with Acumed?
IMHO, Management hasn't done much in respect to the shareholders.
Spec Investor you work too hard! You must have a ton of shares?
WOW great article!! Couldn't you have waite until, I bought a little more? lol
CSJ....there are so many waiting for a dip, it surely won't fall too far past that point. Heck, I may sell my bicycle in order to buy a few more shares.
Yeah, I guess those Grow Stacker sales are starting to pile up!! lol
Can you tell us a little about it?
IMHO, poor management for this shareholder. They need to be more shareholder transparent.
How about a little pull-back for those that didn't have to available cash to buy more shares?
I've got the strong feeling OPHI is being kept as a seperate entity from Kenactiv. NO symbol change. I believe they own the 99% or whatever but, their financials will be not be reflected into the PPS.
Ever odd it's gone this long with NO FINANCIAL news what so ever. Odd
I'm a brother from another mother. lol
Actually I meant it.
Baystbully, I'm just pointing out the obvious my friend.
A fact is a fact. This is a tremendous tradeable stock.
It is what it is! Sure in the LONG RUN....yeah, we may see the $ 1.00 levels again, but in the meantime, it's called Channeling. The range is $.12-.25 or thereabouts.
Kind of like musical chairs. Buy low and sell high. Sell on the news because as history is, it will repeat it's self.
And your right, I know nothing about what's going on within the company But, what I do know, is the obvious.
Good luck.
Well, I must add, one of the another big assetis is
Rich in Investors Relations! He has been tremendous in answering alot of questions and introducing me to Voip-Pal.com
I feel the company is indebted to him. He deserves a big bonus from them. Any company looking for an Investment Relations guy, he'd be the one. But, I bet he doesn't come cheap!! He should raise his fees. IMHO
Baystbully, they were more then likely paid with shares! Shares, shares and more shares. Since the signing of DJ, the outstanding went from 180 million to 230 million. PPS droped from $ .27 to .12. Imagine that. What do you think happens after you put 50 million more shares into the market?
Good news, price goes up. Dilution, price does down. It's a great play, if you can catch the swings. Cycle investment. IMHO
I am accumulating at these levels. And I will get out on the next run. Then wait for further dilution, and then buy it back. This has occured countless times.
This is fact. Just review the history. There's 170 million to go.
If Microsoft paid 8.4 Billion for Skype, what would they pay for technology (patents) that would be mandatory to have with it?
I've been asking myself that for the last five months. LOL
Pheeling lucky,,,,,nothing said on this site effects the PPS. You should know that by now.
Dilution, does thou, my friend.
Read and learn. I just wish I had someone like me, educating me before I ever got into a stock with the amount of outstanding and authorized shares as this company does.
Good luck.
Spec....let me see if I got this right. What your saying (or what the PR, is stating) is that NOW, text messaging can now be intercepted on all cell phones (using AT & T, Verizon, etc.)whereas CURRENTLY it is not?
If this is in fact the case (value of the patent) along with intercepting Voiping on cell phones, the value of Lawful Intercept has taken a freaking giant step in value.
How does one place a value for the stock, then?
Miovo1....it'll be a hard lesson to learn.
Share structure is the back bone to penny stocks!! Plain and simple.
A license to print money.
But, good luck to you all. Be aware of the trap door.
Not interested in this company!!! AT ALL!
There are way too many others out there.
NO Miovo1, that's not it at all.
I have no interest in a company with a share structure like this one.
Good luck thou. I have plenty of other ones I am looking to invest in.
I just believe that the obvious needs to be pointed out to investor that don't understand. I wish I had learned from someone before. As I lost a ton of money in penny stocks that diluted and diluted and then the inevitable happened!
But, good luck.
Keep telling yourself that....PPS down drasically.
But, do as you please!
You'll going to learn a real good lesson.
Take care.
MarketCaptain, my posts are about the company.
Good luck, just here to help others understand penny stocks. It's a value that I have. If I can prevent just one investor from lossing money, I'll feel good.
Misleading investors is not a good thing.
Share structure is the back bone to investing in penny stocks. It has been a real hard lesson for me to learn. Just trying to prevent others from lossing a lot of money.
But, if you feel otherwise, GOOD LUCK!
I have no other comment about this stock. Nor to respond back to you. You just don't get it.
Good luck!!! You'll need it.
IPOS$....FYI, I have learned a lot with investing in penny stocks. It's a rough lesson to learn but it's unfortunate that a company (and I am speaking generally on all penny stocks)can dilute, thus causing an investor to lose his intital value. Although, sometimes it's needed to the company, it's at the expense of an existing shareholder. Sad but true. And it's done without them knowing. Most times, you'll never know the up to date share structure. This is the problem, I have with it.
Now, I don't know for sure this is the case here but, USUALLY when a company has good news and the price falls, it is the case. IMHO.
IPO$....Just an experienced quess, DILUTION?
This is usually the cause, especially with company with positive news.
The hinded deamons behind most penny stocks, is their abiliy to print money. It's a hard lesson to learn.
NO just trying to honest and helpful to others. It's a value thing. It's called characte trait.
Good luck........you'll need it.
AWLFUL SHARE STRUCTURE. FIVE BILLION AUTHORIZED AND 360+ MILLION. LOL
Slicric50, what do you mean by "trouble", if no news comes?
Any pull back is nothing but opportunity to buy more.
I'm locked and loaded and will probably add more on large pull backs!!
First of all, 360+ million O/S is not low. AND 5 BILLION AUTHORIZED is insane!!! This equals DILUTION! BUYER BEWARE!!
Major share restructuring needs to be had before going forward and investing in this stock/company.
IMHO and often correct opinion.
Stef07....shares structure looks real good to me. The main reason I am in this stock.
Don't know much about revenue, etc., but, you have to like the low float.
Shares Structure is scary to say the least. There is well over 350 million O/S. AND 5 Billion, that's with a B.
IMHO, I would be reluctant to invest with all these shares outstanding. (Been there, done that.) More dilution is extremely possible. They would need to be a more tight share structure.
Absolutely, it would difinetly cut down on communications but, once the terrorist find out that this technology is available and being used, they simply won't use face to face any more .
This is a patent and stock that is hard to place a value on! Hopefully they'll be a bidding war on the value!
As of now to my understanding its not mandatory that all VoIP companies have to use this technology!
If or when, could determine the true value !!! And then it could get real scary how high the pps could fly!
Can we get an updated share structure or is the one on the top of this page correct, since 2011? Thank you
I'd rather not fish in your waters.
FLOAT my fishermen. Lack thereof, causes PPS to go up!
In case you haven't done your math, we're up from $ 165 to $ .89 How's that for a company with what, 2 million in debt??
This is not a NYSE company. Your calculations don't add up with pennies!!
Go buy Verizon.
Well if that's true, then this will make all the difference in the world!
But for some they just don't seem to understand the importance of share structure with pennies!
Imiloa, you know, never once in any of your evaluations but you ever mention shares structure. do you know or does anyone else know the FLOAT?
Imioa...I'll still stand by my theory, that you don't understand pennystocks. PPS up from $.165.....
Just a continution of how poorly management has handled their shareholders. Piss poor, to say the least.
Oh, and how is Grow Stacker doing? First quarter was to be between $ 350-500,000!!! lol
You know zero about pennystocks.
I was reaading between the lines in the report. I guess a disclaimer that further dilution is possible.
As soon as they put out Kenactivs numbers, we'll be able to get a better understanding of the numbers. Because of right now, Organics end of the businss is a loss cause. IMHO
Looks like more dilution and another Reverse Split in the near future!! Imho
Looks like more dilution and another Reverse Split in the near future!! Imho
Well, I really appreciate your response. A little more respectful than the prior ones I have been receiving.
I believe my prior posts, pretty much sums up what your saying. I basically was trying to suggest and respond to why the PPS is trading in the range it is at now.(Most investors don't want to fool with a $ .03-.05 stock.
But, I have come to realize that most board members either aren't experienced enough and or just can't comprehend how penny stocks work. Just based on their response and calculations to my constructive suggestion of a reverse split.
"The value of your investment equals the same, after the R/S"! Just as long as there is no further DILUTION! (If they're not diluting now, then why would they after?) Humm
I gave and have given a number of very constuctive suggestions on how to increase the PPS. If no one cares to support my thoughts, that's fine. I won't further waste my time.
I'll just sit back and wait as most are, for the infamous aquisition.
I am EXHAUSTED! Good luck to you all.
Well, they could at least give us something. It's been almost three months and none of us know what type of revenue they do.
IMHO, very disrespectful to their shareholders. I for one can't wait to dump my shares and take my loss asap. But, I feel I need to at least wait until some financial news.
I'll be dumping at the freaking bell.
Arrvea....in this case, apparently there is no need to further dilute, although, I believe they might have slightly a month of so ago, when there was a big pull back. But, this is an educated guess.
But, again, why would they dilute? We're in a holding pattern now. Waiting for the aquisition talks to pick-up and hopefully they'll be a tremendous offer.
Therefore, there isn't any need for further dilution and even a reverse split.
I WAS ONLY suggestion upon the quesition on why the PPS hasn't appreciated. Besides being a lot of outstanding shares, there is also, a lot in the float.
It would just make the PPS much more attractive at $ 1.00 than $ .05. Most investors don't want to fool with penny stocks. The share structure ratios vs. price would just be the same.
I just experienced a reverse splite and the stock went to $ .165 post split (from $ .0333) and rose to $ 1.00 within week after.
If and only if, the outstanding shares are held tight, the PPS has to go up.