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I believe it’s been updated. The judge needs to sign off on it.
Joint motion to dismiss filed by both parties. May 9th, 2024, 1:20 pm
I wouldn’t get our hopes up for any details.
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Looks like VPLM and Huawei came to an agreement. Joint motion to dismiss was filed!
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Huawei is the Top Employer in Europe for 2024. They employ over 12 million people worldwide.
Excellent prospect for VPLM’s Euro RBR patients!!!!!
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Butter, EXCELLENT POST!!!
Totally agree the PPS is being held down. Probably not intentionally but, collateral damage nonetheless. aka, lack of potential damages and patent (s) value.
But, I agree things might just change after pretrials. I believe VPLM knows they have to get the PPS up. I heard any potential buyer will use the current PPS as leverage in their negotiations.
Which doesn’t make sense. The value of the patents determines the value of any acquisition. Not the current PPS determines value of the patents (infringement).
By now, if some can’t comprehend the importance of the court filings and material information to make decisions on their investment, I don’t know when they will. We’re wasting our time. I know I’m tired of schooling some.
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Read post # 129789, as well as the following posts.
Apologies accepted
I’m not a betting man on something I have zero control over. You seem like you’re too unstable for me to ever meet in public. Seems you’re way too sensitive, thin skinned and can’t take constructive criticism. I like to stay away from people like you. But, hey I know you’re sticking up for your buddy and you felt the need to attack me.
I don’t have to restate what you said in your previous posts, just go back and read them. Who attacked whom first?
$2.5 billion is a sellout. Estimated at $.50, estimated fully diluted. That would be under the value of just one case. Why would VPLM turnover their patent portfolio for a value under what one case is worth? Especially with the recent Huawei/Alice news. Anyone with business sense should understand this.
Most can figure out why that would be acceptable to some. I’ve stated that in numerous posts. It doesn’t take much to figure that one out.
Let me point something out. I’ll be kind of careful because I know how sensitive you appear to be. If VPLM settled pretrial with Verizon at even 30% of the value of the damages, AND ANNOUNCED THEM, the PPS would skyrocket more than your measly $.50. Any substantial settlement would validate VPLM’s patent (s). Now, add the upcoming T-Mobile trial, as well as the ‘606 Amazon. Not to mention the Asia patents. And you believe a $2.5 billion revaluation is good? Is this what you’re telling me and the other shareholders? Really?
Now, let’s get back to your risk, reward concern, if VPLM goes to trial. As it was asked to me, why would another company acquire VPLM if they would have to go through the same trouble, as VPLM has been experiencing? Don’t you think any potential buyer, would have the same concerns?
Shareholders and the market have no knowledge of the exact damages being sought and the potential value of VPLM’s parent portfolio. Hence, the PPS.
Huawei and Verizon just settled mid trial and no details (damages) were made public. This is a big concern I have that this’ll happen if VPLM settles with Verizon.
As I’ve stated, I’d love for an acquisition at a fair and reasonable price. Not with any sweetheart deal. Maybe back last May, that would be acceptable but, not after the ex parte and Alice 101 decisions. IMHO
I feel like I have to apologize to the other ihub readers but, from where I grew up, I stand up for myself and will respond back to anyone that disrespects and belittles me.
BTW, did you ever reach out to the shareholder that was looking for assistance on depositing shares?
Thanks for serving.
I wish you luck!
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Well, I guess you were contacted as well to attack me. Text, email? Are you going to threaten me as well.
Coming from you and your reputation it’s laughable!
What the hell have you ever contributed on this site. I won’t even waste my time responded to you.
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You just got schooled!
If you can’t take it, then don’t dish it out.
LMAO
Maybe you ought to go back and read my previous post. Never did I mention I was concerned about the cost to deposit restricted shares and the commission rate to sell them. I was referring to what concerns others have with their restricted shares. I don’t have restricted shares, therefore the cost doesn’t concern me!
You snap back at me and brag about owning 20 million shares and your deposit cost is low and your commission on selling is only .5-1% rate.
How ironic that a day or so later, a shareholder with restricted shares, reached out to you for assistance on where to deposit his shares, as his rate was 3.5%.
You may want to look in the mirror, because you have egg on your face.
BTW, were you respectful enough to reach out to this shareholder or are you too selfish to do so? Thus far, I haven’t seen your response.
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess, the more shares one deposits, the lower their cost/rate will be.
It’s obvious that a lot of shareholders are looking for an acquisition at a “sweetheart” deal just to be able to deposit their restricted shares and avoid the extra costs, as well as risking going to trial. You stated, “end up being worthless is virtuous “.
Kinda funny you say this, after I questioned why anyone would want to acquire VPLM, if they will have go through the same trouble they are experiencing.
I’d love to have a company acquire VPLM. But, only at a reasonable cost. Which certainly isn’t at the same price as one of the pending trials. Can you comprehend my point?
So stop your bragging and disrespecting others, that aren’t fortunate enough to own as many shares as you.
Why don’t you shut up, grow up, man up and grow a pair.
I’m not going to sit back and let someone like you disrespect me, without saying anything. That’s for sure.
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Absolutely, what do you think being a cheerleader and disrespecting others is contributing?
“Oh, there’re working hard, a lot going on behind the scenes, there’s a surprise coming, I expect something real soon, etc”! This is contributing? Get serious!
Everyone already knows there’s a lot happening. And as we get closer to the trial the PPS should appreciate higher. But, just imagine how much higher, if the investment community knew the potential value of VPLM’s patent (s). Most investors comprehend this, PERIOD!!
I know IR is working hard. That’s why I forward any court filings he hasn’t had a chance to research.
Why don’t you two, stop your bitching and crying when you don’t like constructive criticism. You’re both like little children. What are you now sharing the back seat with him? MAN UP, you two are grown old men.
LMAO (BTW, I’m not referring to any stock/market.).
If my constructive criticism bothers the company, please have them call me. They probably couldn’t care less what criticism they’re receiving.
I’m not helpful, what are you two? Get over yourselves for once!!!!
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It’s quoted…” I used to love sharing what I would dig up….no more “.
Are you freaking kidding me, right now? What in the world have you ever contributed, besides disrespecting and bashing every shareholder that doesn’t agree with your opinion (s). You call and harass them, disrespect them on the board and encourage them to attack me. You’ve burned more bridges with shareholders, than I can shake a stick at.
You like to think you know information others don’t. I’m told you know nothing. I understand you’ve encouraged a number of investors to buy VPLM’s stock. This is probably the only reason why anyone with VPLM, would take the time to speak with you.
Just curious, I wonder how these shareholders feel when they hear you say, they’re not entitled to know the potential value of their investment, aka VPLM’s patents and the potential damages being sought! This just baffles not only me and others.
Hey, before I go, how’s the PPS performing after about 50 million shares traded over the last few days? Hmmm, do you think just maybe if the investment community knew the damages being sought, it might go even a little higher? You think.
BTW, I call bullshit on any NDA on not reporting damages being sought. If this were true, what concessions were made to VPLM, for agreeing to do so? I believe this is by choice, for various reasons.
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To be continued…
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Agreed, let’s give it the 30 days and hopefully it’ll start to appreciate, as we’d expect it to. Keep an eye on the court filing, as you know.
Apparently, from what we’ve heard, Huawei isn’t big infringer. Not sure exactly what that means. Even a small settlement, not to mention licensing going forward, could keep further dilution down some. Not knowing the details, certainly won’t help the PPS.
What’s interesting, is I don’t recall any trial date set for them in the near future. So, hearing they’re trying to resolve this case, is extremely encouraging, especially right after the Alice 101 decision.
Something else that’s encouraging, I heard that any further settlements in Waco, the damages will be made public. Unlike what happened with Amazon. We’ll see if this holds true, as things change like the weather with VPLM.
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Yeah, of course with your number of shares you’d like to see an acquisition. I’d love to see it happen, as well . But, not at a ridiculous price so I can liquidate all my shares. That’s pretty selfish, if you ask me.
It’s a good thing you’re not negotiating for the shareholders.
Again, as for the cost of depositing restricted shares, I ONLY stated what was told to me by others that have experienced it. I’m sure it’s different depending who one uses. It doesn’t make any difference to me. Nor does it concern me.
As for the cost not being one of the reasons for an acquisition, is nonsense. Of course it is.
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Obviously, Emil’s not looking for advice but he should.
As I’ve stated numerous times, as we get closer to the trial date (s), the PPS.should increase. An intelligent investor should know any material news, aka Alice101 Denial, would also be a positive to increase the PPS. This goes without saying. Or should I say, if one is able to process things, it goes without saying.
ALWAYS remember one thing, if the PPS increased due to the aforementioned reasons, one can only imagine how much more the PPS would appreciate if damages were announced!…….You think!
LMAO
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Kinda funny when one cried to IR when all the inside selling started and said he was going to sell. Now, it appears it doesn’t bother him. lol
Not too sure what difference does it make, holding their investment in VPLM, when a shareholder (s) feels they should be made aware of the value of VPLM’s
patents. There’re plenty of shareholders that feel this way.
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I guess since one just needs to talk to IR, there’s no need to follow the court filings.
Hmm, how ironic, since there were numerous times that IR, wasn’t aware of such court filings and asked me to forward them to him!
LMAO
Shhh…..no one’s supposed to know. Apparently, VPLM sign an NDA not to disclose any damages!
One must ask why would VPLM agree to this? I believe there’s no such NDA, regarding damages. They’re just not making them public. We’ll just have to wait for the financials.
Clocks ticking on depositing restricted shares., if there’s no acquisition prior to the August trial.
I’ll get back to Chick Hicks when I have more time. Beep beep
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As I noted, I only stated the deposit amounts and commission from what I have been told by others who have experienced it. I would imagine it could be different for others.
I’m glad it’s not as costly for you, as I was told it is for others. Good for you.
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Well, I appreciate your response but, I’m only relaying the costs aka, $ 1,500-2,000 PER MILLION shares and up 3% commission on selling them, from an attorney and another shareholder who’s gone through the process. From what I’ve heard, it’s not a simple process. Not to mention the total cost to registering their shares and selling them if there is no acquisition, could possibly raise the $.005 cost per share to over what the current PPS is now. Thus, the urgency to get an acquisition done, at a discounted price.
Therefore, selling all of the patents, including the remaining ‘815/‘005 claims, plus the Asia patents for just what one case is worth, is unacceptable. And pretty selfish, if you ask me. This is a concern by not only me but, a few other shareholders I know.
Emil has a few billion shares if he exercises all his options. How in the world is he going to liquidate all his shares unless there’s an acquisition? Possibly he’ll have to accept that he’ll have to do it over time, as he monetizes VPLM’s patents.
I’m still confused on where one thinks it’ll be years by the time there’s a final outcome. We all would love to wake up one morning and hear VPLM has been acquired. But, if a shareholder is looking to invest in a company, for the sole purpose of waiting for an acquisition, they might be greatly disappointed. A trial verdict would enhance the value of the company and any future acquisition price. IMHO
As I’ve said before, ParkerVision,Virnetx and Netlist, amongst others, have won cases against the biggest companies in the world. If they can do it, so can VPLM. And BTW, no one seems to be interested in acquiring them, as far as I know. One must ask themselves this, why would any one of these infringers want to acquire VPLM’s patents, if they have to go through the hassle like VPLM, has been going through for years.
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Hey, did you get a call, text or was it an email to attack me. Listen, I won’t be bullied by a loser. I stand up for myself and won’t be disrespected by any losers. If one can’t take it, then don’t dish it out.
Very simple concept, when the disrespecting stops, so will I.
I haven’t seen you contribute anything of substance, ether. Have you?
Beep, beep…..
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Yep, that’s why I keep saying, keep an eye on the court filings and don’t listen to hyperbole, hearsay nonsense.
If VPLM were smart enough, they would PR this. But, nay they don’t seem to care about the PPS.
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Agreed for the most part. Trial verdict is probably the best for the PPS. Although a reasonable acquisition would be nice, if the price is right.
Now keep in mind, there’re a number of restricted shareholders that are in a quandary over depositing their shares.
From what I was told, there’re only a few brokers that will take these shares prior to an acquisition. There’re a few loops to jump through, attorney letter, $ 1,500-2,000 per million shares to deposit. Not to mention commission (I’ve heard as much as 3%), on selling shares, if there’s no acquisition. All of this can be avoided if an acquisition occurs.
This is the reason all restricted shareholders want desperately for there to be an acquisition. Hence, the talk of sweet deals and taking a ridiculously low acquisition price.
For their sake, I hope there’s an acquisition at a reasonable price!
The clock is ticking, to deposit those shares or get stuck holding them. Thus, missing out on a trial victory or pretrial cash settlement, that would more than likely cause the PPS to skyrocket.
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Biased much, I see the poo poo and clown faces. Childish if you ask me, to respond this way to my posts.
Looks like a few have met their bully match, huh? Losers
Still waiting for some posts with some substance, instead of hearing things are going well, etc.
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Or even Apple and or AT&T.
Hey, wouldn’t it be something if they’re now in a bidding war, behind the scenes?
Wishful thinking or a good possibility.
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Agreed, some are forgetting about licensing agreements going forward. It’s just not damages from the past, it licensing going forward.
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Probably
WOW, IT APPEARS VoIP-Pal and Defendants Huawei “ HAVE AGREED TO RESOLVE THE ABOVE-CAPTIONED LAWSUIT””!!!!
This is why it’s very important to follow the court filings!!
LMAO
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Joint Motion to Stay with Huawei. Very interesting, why would they both agree to staying the case? Possibly, VP,M wanted to save money and focus on the upcoming trials. Or, there’re in negotiations on a settlement.
Just some thoughts.
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Yes, if it’s completed in the same time frame but I’m not holding my breath. I personally don’t think it’ll be decided as soon as the previous decision. But, who really knows.
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Well, I wouldn’t be that optimistic. Because according to what Hudnell stated in one of his responses to when Amazon asked to Stay the case, it would delay the case due 25.7 average timeline for ex parte decisions. I wouldn’t expect any time prior to the trials. But, who really knows, I was surprised on the first decision coming in so soon.
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Now it would great if the ex parte reexamination decision comes in two years ahead of the average timeline.
Incredible volume thus far.
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That’s why it’s extremely important to keep up with the court filings. This is where I heard about it.
This news will be great to have for our Verizon trial in August.
Good luck!
Yes, BTW that was an Alice 101 Motion that was DENIED!!!
That’s why it’s very important to follow the court filing!!!
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One of the reasons you have to follow the court filings, dated 04/30/24, Huawei’s motion for judgement on the pleadings, is DENIED!!!!!
Good points! Let’s not forget licensing agreements going forward.
Agreed
Yes, it does appear it’s been amended to July 15th. Little confusing.
Still three months prior to the trial date in November. Which is good, IMHO
Again, from what I’ve read, it’s been revised since 03/21, to both pretrials on July 9th. But, I’ll check when I get a chance.
I appreciate your efforts but, some of these damages are related to the ‘005/‘815 RBR patents. Although there’re still much more claims still remaining with both patents, yet to be prosecuted by VPLM. Also, a few cases were dismissed. Still a big asset, when any acquisition does take place.
Just a thought, wasn’t there an NDA back then? Interesting. Why would VPLM agree to not allow their shareholders and potential investors knowledge of the value of their patents? Very strange IMHO