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pantherj
I have a feeling that I'll be heading out to Sask. this summer to visit Urbie. I think he'll be interested in the idea of buying back my shares that I still have left from purchases from 2003.
Urbie if you're reading Ihub. You know the shares that are suppose to have the cert that is quite different from the certs during the CMKX trading period.
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pantherj
" You were scammed by Urbie and crew. It now looks like Urbie's involvement was even more deceptive and pervasive than at first thought.
Would any of you be surprised to find that Urbie ran a scam on the Brokers as well as on you? "
The shares issued during 2003 are the key to this whole mess. There won't be any naked shares found , unless they consider shares dumped by insiders which were never issued the same. I'm still waiting for my cert for shares purchased in 2003 and so far after a year same old run around.
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TSXminer
I have a feeling that he got hired on by someone who wants to cause confusion with the latest events.
Kevin West is starting to gain my respect , especially the way he has come out swinging against the touts.
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stock_hippie
" let's stick with facts...if you attack a poster im going to assume youyr out of fresh facts...right? "
That absolutely a riot. You've been attacking posters for the last few days calling them bashers. Time for the tin foil cap once again.
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stock_hippie
Funny , it makes me wonder why your here trying to do damage control for the crooks.
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janice
I've always wondered who brought Andy Hill and the Jose ( Elcamino )character into CMKX early on in the scam. Is this Ginger Gutierrez related to the Jose character somehow ? Now there's a pair who should be on a list for their activities back in 2003.
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HowardHughs
May I suggest another couple of days under the tin foil cap.
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Jim
Thanks.
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Jim
Do you know if it's true that publicly traded businesses that are incorporated in Wyoming are not required to disclose share structure information to shareholders ?
thanks
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gump
Have you ever talked to Urbie ? Masterful isn't something that would come to my mind when I remember the times that I have met him. It's a gale force wind going through those ears of his. In my opinion the LV insiders used him more like a bobblehead then anything.
" I think Kevin's worst fears are in finally finding out how crooked Urban really is. It was probably in the back of his mind all the time but he was trying to ignore it. A lot of gazoonies actually bought into Urban's masterful con job. "
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gump
" What is going on with large bulk certs moving ANYWHERE near a brokerage house when a company is REVOKED ??? "
Actually that bulk cert issue gives me hope that my theory is correct. I suspect that it's an previous insider who had sold what they didn't have.
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HowardHughs
Time for you to put your tin foil cap back on Hughie.
Paltalk is certainly a reliable source of info . If I were you, I'd being getting a couple million dollar advance against your DHL payment.
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HowardHugh
Too funny !!!
I now know who you are. You must be worried that you'll make the list of shame. Won't be long before some of the rats jump ship and want to make a deal.
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pantherj
Those loons may actually be working for someone trying to put the shareholders off their trail. It wouldn't surprise me if it turns out that they are actually working for Vinnie the Torch and crew.
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nufced
Thanks
I'll drop you a line tomorrow.
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nufced
Next time you talk to either of them. Will you please ask them why there's such a difference in the appearance and wording for certs representing shares purchased in 2003 compared to certs for shares purchased in 2004. I have two certs in front of me that represent the scenario outlined above. The two certs are for shares in the same brokerage account that were obtained from the transfer agent at the same time yet are very different in appearance.
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janice
" Set what trap? He profited handsomely from everything that happened, and went along with it, meek as a lamb. "
Urban and clan certainly didn't profit handsomely prior to Dec 2003. Some were very close to going bankrupt over the CMKM Diamnond saga. I personally talked to people close to some of the family members who knew exactly how dire their situation was.
Do you believe that the dilution in 2004 and the opinion letters provided will standup under future review ?
As far as I'm concerned Urban was a dope. The perfect patsy to sell a dirty shell to.
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nufced
Do you talk directly to Frizzy or Kevin West ?
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TSX
Actually that's not correct.
2004-03-10 CMKM 1 CMKX 1
2003-01-29 CMKI 1 CMKM 1
2002-05-22 CMKIE 1 CMKI 1
2002-04-22 CMKI 1 CMKIE 1
2001-08-31 CMKIE 1 CMKI 1
2001-08-27 CMKI 1 CMKIE 1
2001-05-03 CMKIE 1 CMKI 1
2001-04-23 CMKI 1 CMKIE 1
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HowardHughs
So which one of the flakes mentioned in the update are you ? I have to finally give Kevin credit if he goes after your buddies.
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TSX
I keep mentioning 2003 being the key to this all. Trading under the symbol CMKM was when all the hanky panky went on. I have a feeling the books will show up before this is all over.Urbie and clan knew what was going on by the fall of 2003. The verdict is still out whether he had the brains to set the trap. I've been told the family went to a group in Alberta for help.
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nufced
I have a feeling that you could add a couple CDN brokerages to the list. I'm waiting around to see what the OSC turns up.
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Buckfever1
I'm talking homes with foundations. lol!!!!
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HowardHughs
" Kevin,pull the update.You have slammed good shareholders and have put them at risk by the crazies that are out there.PULL THE UPDATE NOW! "
Good shareholders , too funny. Some of the biggest wack jobs I have ever witnessed.
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tortradr
There's a Canadian brokerage that owes me a cert for 10 million free shares that I had left over. I've been waiting for close to a year and still no cert. And no, it's not some hillbilly account for a few sheckles. It's value would more than equal most peoples homes on this board.
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Which insiders have a connection to Arizona ? Who did a group from Arizona prey on during the old ASE exchange days ?
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panther
" BTW, are you the least bit curious as to where they are coming by the funding to finance this foray? "
Don't be too surprised if there isn't a group from Alberta involved . Not regular shareholders , but a group who became involved later.
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pantherj
" There is the rub, nuffie; the term legitimate. He needs to define that word. And, whatever he defines it as, a court will have the last say. Better to go after the perps who illegitimately issued shares ... if such is the case. (i remain skeptical about that) "
I'll place my money on the perps being responsible. Watch for the year 2003 to become very important in this whole saga.
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nufced
I'm curious to see if Andy Hill and his cohort Jose something show up on a lawsuit in the near future. Oaks was "on the hill" early on in 2003 and most likely brought in by friends of Edwards.
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Investorman
The O/S was less than 80 billion before the end of Jan 2004. I got that from a very reliable source. The real money would have been made during the symbol periods of CMKM and CMKI. The share price fell from the high of about $.03 all the way to the basement level of $.0001. I still have not received a cert for free shares that I had left from one Canadian brokerage. Those shares were purchased during the CMKM symbol period. There should be very few of these shares left since the vast majority would have been dumped during the 2004 pump.
I suspect that the terms have been mixed up, and what they should have stated is that shares were over issued.
Investorman
It is possible that the fox while loose in the henhouse could have over issued shares early on. After all in Frizzy's claim he states " that Edwards had control of the ledger" . I can believe it, since I've met Urbie in person and know a number of people who have done deals with him in the past. There's a lot of wind going through the tunnel.
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Jim
" Posted by: shortsinthesand
In reply to: ogclip who wrote msg# 536 Date:4/14/2007 11:30:14 AM
Post #of 761
Ogclip.. For your sake and mine I sure hope ATLJ isn't connected to the canadian Russian Mob like ILGY MGLG and SBMI or BHUB ? "
Now that wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be true. It's only a matter of time before they become involved here in Ontario.I figure we let in most of the unemployed KGB during the 1990's.
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stock_hippie
That's funny since most of these crack pots don't even know anyone out west. You better meet some of the people who've known Urbie for years to find out the real truth to this saga. Those nutjobs on Paltalk and Raging Bull don't even deal in reality. CMKX didn't even have enough funds to process the last cores through the labs.
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Hello nufced
I haven't followed any of the crazy rumors lately so maybe SH is joking. But I do believe that if anything crooked happened with CMKX that it was internal in origin. I also believe that Frizzy should have been more open last year and disclosed the info to all shareholders instead of a select few. I'll go on the record and state that I believe the crooks from inside over issued stock prior to the symbol change to CMKX.
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stock_hippie
" faulk thinks we get a divy "
Dream on !!!!
A divy from what ? CMKX has no funds and there's no naked short outside of what the crooked insiders over issued. There's a chance that someday something will be returned if the LV crooks have to pay up.
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Chas56789
Looks to me that the touts have much more to worry about. Some of your buddies could be in for some very trying times.
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Jim
Something I've noticed on the TSX-V lately are the mentioning of convertible debentures. Some of the TSX-V shells that I own are now trying to finance through convertible debentures. That's one nasty form of toxic financing that I had hoped wouldn't show it's face here.
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Jim
BHUB sure reminds me of DOM involvement. You don't suppose Wong and Winick shared fishball soup at Times Square on Hwy # 7 ? Both reside in the same area not far from Richmond Hill.
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stock_hippie
I still have free shares of this dog CMKX. I also believe the insiders were a bunch of crooks and that Frizzy has been next to useless. I may have had some faith in Frizzy if he had actually done something in a timely manner. So what do you think of that ?
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uwlungman
" Investorman. The stock doesn't trade so...
there is no one to save here. Why do you guys keep at it? Just to rub it in and show everyone how stupid we are and how superior you are. That's the only reason I can see. "
Really , well maybe the posters here can keep this scam fresh in the publics mind. May be the best way to prevent the scamming insiders from being able to continue on with their crooked ways .
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