Drillbits & Bottlerockets (DBnBR)

[Vendit]

I’m also considering starting a Plastic Surgery thread and will need some volunteers who have up close and personal experience in that area.

If you know of anyone who has had their Tummy Tucked twice, several Boob Jobs and a Face-Lift or two let me know. Butt Lifts also qualify to be considered.

I’ll put her on my board of directors.

<g>

Reid

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

but it better be 99.9% stock related

http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=88225

I think your days are numbered

well for that matter ..mine too..but that is just a given

[JXM]

Aren't you the clever one? A TA thread with a moron trap built into the header. Ain't that redundant?

Yes, I am....also from the thread header:
Other TA methods are welcome and encouraged. This thread is not exclusively a P&F thread, nor is it exclusively a TA thread.




Look Ma! I caught one!!!

[nycnpbbkr]

Aren't you the clever one? A TA thread with a moron trap built into the header. Ain't that redundant?

[JXM]

Posts don't get deleted on this thread.

from the iBox:
It is understood that there will be disagreements on this thread. Watch what you say, cuz I believe that if you post something that makes you look like an idiot, that it should stand as evidence for everybody. The only exception that I will make is if there is personal information posted. In all cases, if I delete a message, I will identify exactly why it has been deleted and will suggest that the poster repost the message without the personal information.


But we can't fault you for trying.

[nycnpbbkr]

Was it good? I missed it, insurance fraud, boiler rooms, political incorrectness, foul breath, penny stocks, two guns, bankruptcy, kickbacks, bad language, illegally registered stock?

Damn it, haven't read that SI garbage in so many years now, I don't even know who's threatening who anymore. People been threatening each other with the same laws suits for 5 years now only you get confused because they share PM's and switch their friends with their enemies every 2 1/2 years.

Matt can you PM me a copy. B-) And leave this post up cause if you take it down I won't be able to properly sue someone for something, no wait, I think you need to delete this post or I will have to sue myself for something.

B-)

[Vendit]

You son only gets 4 more deletions and then he is toast.

>g<

Reid

[JXM]

Notice to thread: I deleted one of my own posts. This post had the link to a photo of my son and no other relevant content. Just thought better of posting a pic of the boy.

[JXM]

Actually, that is what everyone says...

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

" I think he is pretty cute too"

he must look like his mama

[JXM]

Yup, that is the boy. I think he is pretty cute too<g>

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

ok

[Mattu]

Didn't your argument to Silicon Investor include the fact that things that were said weren't true. Why didn't you just let "the judge prove the truth"?


>>As I recall, the only thing that got deleted on his thread was the posting of a confidential document with a bunch of names, addresses, and a clear disclosure on the front that it was copyrighted, confidential and not intended for him. That breaks a whole bunch of SI's rules without even going into what the content of the actual document was. The other stuff he said about me, big deal, I just refute it.

MB

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

>Oh Matt, you knew that Jenna was making statements that were not true. Are you going to deny that now?

>>Nope. Again, not my job.


I have been sent a few emails concerning activity on Silicon Investor as it relates to your reaction to posts from people on the thread of Anthony@Pacific.

Could you explain why it was the job of Silicon Investor to deal with it but you feel it is not your job to deal with the same issues. Didn't your argument to Silicon Investor include the fact that things that were said weren't true. Why didn't you just let "the judge prove the truth"?


Do you understand JXM when he says that just because he says nasty things about person B doesn't give person B the right to attack and say nasty things about person C. This is especially true if person C isn't involved in any of it.


by the way JXM...if that was your kid in that picture he was just darn adorable...time does fly.............

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

"No hidden scripts in profiles that enable this should exist. (this is
pre-emptive as others have done this on SI and used the information to try and hack sites)."

I know how to do this and redirect...and have done it a few times.. but I didnt know it was a tool to hack sites.
is it the automatic aspect that creates the hacking or will it occur even if you click on the link..

i once put in a tool that went off every time someone tried to hack my computer or search my computer..the first time the alert went off I totally freaked and froze and then totally unplugged my computer as the alarm was going off because I wasnt sure what to do... and it happened within an hour of me installing the program..I have forgotten the name of it but it is one the SE has recommended

then it seemed like it was going off all the time
it opened up my eyes to how often people are searching trying to get into a system from all over the world

[JXM]

2. Need a link to the first unread message in the list
>>You mean Favorites?

Yes, when in the favorites section where it says "unread posts", you should be able to click on that number and it takes you directly to the first unread message since the last time you looked at the thread.

5. Yes, ask Bob. I can show him exactly what I am talking about.

[Mattu]

1. When I post a message, I should end up at that message.
>>Amen!

2. Need a link to the first unread message in the list
>>You mean Favorites?

3. Need a list of all new threads
>>Piece of cake.

4. Need a list of hot threads
>>A work in progress. Gonna be way cooler than SI.

5. There should not be the ability in either posted messages or profiles for other sites to be loaded without an active "click" from the member. No hidden scripts in profiles that enable this should exist. (this is pre-emptive as others have done this on SI and used the information to try and hack sites
>>I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about here, but I will send to Bob.

CC: Wish List thread.

MB

[JXM]

1. When I post a message, I should end up at that message.
2. Need a link to the first unread message in the list
3. Need a list of all new threads
4. Need a list of hot threads
5. There should not be the ability in either posted messages or profiles for other sites to be loaded without an active "click" from the member. No hidden scripts in profiles that enable this should exist. (this is pre-emptive as others have done this on SI and used the information to try and hack sites).

[Mattu]

And Lisa, I will drop the subject with you...

with the following...

That, I *know* the CoB isn't perfect. All those rules in the TOS are going to change by Mid-May and the Chairman will have a 'handbook' to better guage deletions by.

But, I am still open to suggestions by any of you.

Have already got quite a few good ones out of this conversation.

Most importantly...Posting should be fun. Life has enough stress. Let's all be adults, enjoy it, and make a little coin.

<Group hug>

MB

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

Your views on Jenna are interesting. I will leave it at that.



If you want to build your base then YOU should be making an effort at understanding the objections that many have about this site.

And no Matt..it isn't just a few people that have objections and see problems despite the spin that you and Jenna seem to want to use.

I dont go as far as Anthony@pacific in his claim that this site is a scam with his documentation to back it up...

but your activities and policies do bring up questions

If you choose not to understand the objections you will end up paying the price one way or another.

[JXM]

I kinda like that idea. The one important point is that if one of those commercial sites takes potshots at an individual in the residential area, it is open season on them (the commercial site).

And to help you see Lisa's point....if I started to make nasty comments about some cat named Fatt Matt, that would not give Fatt Matt the right to attack The Real Poet. The fact that I attacked you, is not relevant to the fact that you attacked The Real Poet (even though she clearly deserves it for other reasons).

[Mattu]

She should be held accountable for them.

>>Earlier, you told me that her accusations were very damaging. If they really were so damaging, shouldn't you take this up in a court of law, instead of some anonymous message board site?

She made some pretty hefty allegations concerning Tim Luke.

>>And Tim Luke makes some pretty hefty allegations about her. So take it to court. I'm not a lawyer or a judge.

MB

[Mattu]

I see the commercial ventures here similarly as to how celebrities and the press are viewed. Since the commercial ventures are here to solicit money from your membership, the membership has every right to be critical of their actions. And if the commercial venture steps out of line...they are held to a higher standard than a normal member. Same as with a COB. COBs are the cops, the cops have to be held to a stricter interpretation of the rules and if they violate them, the reprecussions have to be more severe.


>>How would you feel about the idea of marking the threads such as Jenna, Merill Lynch, and the JXM International Private Pay Site as "Premium" boards and/or even making them pay to be here and let them advertise till their hearts content on their own boards. Letting people know they are backed by companies. Kind of like making this place Wall Street. You know what is what. You have your residential areas and your commercial areas. Sounds kinda cool to me.

>>One other point I'd like to make. Business ventures succeed because they are good at what they do. If some commercial site has horrible plays, then their user base will dry up and they will shut down. People don't pay to lose money very long.

See, we are making progress now!

MB

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

>>Why should she? So you guys can tear into her more? But apparently you see my point for some of her
random comments about some the 'people' of SI over the course of "more than one week". They can't get
over her. She shouldn't have to respond to the personal, destructive garbage. That's why she's here."





Do you not understand Josef's satirical post. Is he one of "you guys".

And no I absolutely do not understand your point. She made all kinds of wild and crazy allegations about me and others. I know her allegations about me were FALSE. I don't know for sure about her allegations as it pertains to others.

She should be held accountable for them. Or is it your position that she can make them and then gets to delete them and pretend they didnt exist. She made some pretty hefty allegations concerning Tim Luke. Does she now get to pretend she is innocent and everyone else is the big bad bankrupt depraved morons attacking the poor little lamb?

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

"I see the commercial ventures here similarly as to how celebrities and the press are viewed. Since the
commercial ventures are here to solicit money from your membership, the membership has every right to
be critical of their actions. And if the commercial venture steps out of line...they are held to a higher
standard than a normal member. Same as with a COB. COBs are the cops, the cops have to be held to a
stricter interpretation of the rules and if they violate them, the reprecussions have to be more severe. "


I am not sure I would agree with the stricter interpretation but I do agree with the stricter repercussions.

I think the people who abuse the power should have it taken away.

Cheeky once made a post about how the invasion of someones privacy deserved immediate termination.

Posting ones personal information can lead to all kinds of ramifcations from actual physical harm to the loss of a employment. Anyone who does that with malicious intent should not have ANY power over others.

[Mattu]

Last I understood, this site was not Silicon Investor . Let her respond there.

>>Why should she? So you guys can tear into her more? But apparently you see my point for some of her random comments about some the 'people' of SI over the course of "more than one week". They can't get over her. She shouldn't have to respond to the personal, destructive garbage. That's why she's here.

given the way you have taken away names from people and the ensuing policy...are you going to take away the name MechanicalMethod from the person on this site?

>>Bob made this decision. You would have to ask him. He had good reasons for what he did. Sometimes you don't go by the book when things aren't right. You learn to do that in business.

Anyways, back to our topic. Did you have any suggestions?

MB

[JXM]

"Plus, if you don't like someone, you aren't being forced to post there."

Hmmmm.....I may save this one for later.

>>It's his/her thread. Let them create/destroy it.
As Lisa has pointed out, the reality of a thread environment can be obfuscated by the strategic deletion of posts. So when a COB does not apply the stated rules for the thread equitably or violates them him/herself, the poster has no way of knowing what they are getting themselves into.

I always felt that SI should have had a mandatory listing of people who had been banned from a moderated thread so that one would know what they were getting into.

I agree that private, non-stock threads should have a right to freely associate with who they want and the "if you don't like it, don't post there" rule may apply. However, for stock threads and commercial ventures. I do not think that this same rule should apply.

I see the commercial ventures here similarly as to how celebrities and the press are viewed. Since the commercial ventures are here to solicit money from your membership, the membership has every right to be critical of their actions. And if the commercial venture steps out of line...they are held to a higher standard than a normal member. Same as with a COB. COBs are the cops, the cops have to be held to a stricter interpretation of the rules and if they violate them, the reprecussions have to be more severe.


I know who is here to destroy and who is here to help.

When I first started posting on the SEVU thread, did you think I was here to destroy or to help?

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

Last I understood, this site was not Silicon Investor . Let her respond there. Or respond here if the posts are taking place here

On that note I do have another question.

It seems that SI Jeff or another SI employee is posting under the name of MechanicalMethod on SI. This alias was asked last night if he was posting on this site. He/She didnt answer the question.

SO

given the way you have taken away names from people and the ensuing policy...are you going to take away the name MechanicalMethod from the person on this site?

Or is it SI jeff that is posting here and you are going to allow him his proprietary attachment to the name

[Mattu]

Hi Poet,

but I am still waiting for the COB idea, and its use, to evolve before I make this site a place for my work.

>>This is EXACTLY what I want people to do. Let us prove ourselves. And we will with good input. And time.

MB

[Mattu]

We are talking about more than ONE week of her activities

>>HER activities? What about 1/2 of SI that talks about her daily? Even though she is gone. Amazing.

MB

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

>>I know what your point is. We are all arguing about that one week when Jenna came over.
She wasn't harrased and attacked. She was bombarded with people blasting here. Simply not
cool. Make it civil, and she'd allow it. So let's see it play out on a few threads. You'll see.>

NOT BY ME SHE WASN'T. Yet all you need to do is read her deleted posts to see how often I was accused by name or by inference and I wasnt a part of it of ANY of it. Her acts in reference to me were... .." SIMPLY NOT COOL." and her boss called her posts "silly".

What was the point of her post last night that Josef recreated in his satirical post. We are talking about more than ONE week of her activities. She can continue to spout her nonsense but what if someone wants to respond to it on her thread by talking about her trading activities and her allegations that she made on her thread about Tim Luke and AB Watley , etc.

I am still waiting for that conference call that was suppose to back up her claim about AB watley.

[Mattu]

That having orderly stock discussions is more important than having fair and unbalanced views?

>>I believe you can have both. Just like we have seen on this thread. But all folks won't be the perfect. There could never be another Jorj! So take them for that. If someone is seen as unfair to you, let Bob know. He's a fair-handed guy. Plus, if you don't like someone, you aren't being forced to post there.


You should not have a bias on how you interpret the rules based on whether someone is a prolific poster or a newbie.

>>And I don't have a bias against 'proflifics' or 'newbies' But I am no idiot. I know who is here to destroy and who is here to help.


Further, you may envision this as a site for discussions about stocks, but the fact is, if you don't plan for it being something much more than that, it will not succeed. This needs to be a community where one of the things that we all have in common is stocks, but like in any other community, there will be a whole lot of other activities outside of the main interest.


>>Which is exactly why we have the Lounge. For friendly off-topic conversations. I have no use to see fights and random junk on the stock boards. When I go to a stock board, I want to read about stocks. Also, I am more than willing to point out, I am not shooting to be everything for everybody. I want the best of the best stock traders. I'm not into a attracting a bunch of thugs or politicians.



If Jenna or anybody else is going to require that their little community (thread) is only about stocks and that if a post that isn't about stocks written by somebody that the COB does not like is deleted, then by rights, she or the COB should not ever post anything that isn't about stocks. That is, if you want things to be equitable.

>>It's his/her thread. Let them create/destroy it. We are all adults. And no, I don't want to see my WSJ comment posted <G>


So, now it is time for a trick question:

If a representative from Merrill Lynch started a thread on iHub with the intent of soliciting business, would you:
1. Allow it?

>>Yes, only if that person plans to add value to the community by interacting with folks and posting about stocks. We all come here with intentions. Otherwise, Bob will delete the board, just like we have in the past. Bob or myself typically get invovled in that sort of situation by either e-mail or phone call "What are your plans for this thread" and then they better stand behind it.


2. Allow open criticism of the existance of the thread?

>>Sure. As long as it's constructive. Not "you piece of lying scum! All you pick is turds!"

3. Allow open criticism of Merrill Lynch's analysts on the thread?

>>Sure. As long as it's constructive. Not "you piece of lying scum! All you pick is turds!"


>>I know what your point is. We are all arguing about that one week when Jenna came over. She wasn't harrased and attacked. She was bombarded with people blasting here. Simply not cool. Make it civil, and she'd allow it. So let's see it play out on a few threads. You'll see.

Let's take the focus off Jenna, could we? Jenna isn't the only board here. Lots of amazing people here.

MB

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

x 3???????????

oh boy, I would have to cozy up to Tim Luke and get a copy of all the posts to figure out how many punches I am allowed...i think it would be multiple digit figures

But you know...her activities might have made for some strange bedfellows

[JXM]

I believe in the X 3 concept. That is, if someone punches you in the arm (unprovoked), you have the right to either punch them back three times with the same force or once at three times the force.

I believe that you were prevented from doing even a one for one defense.

My views on this are pretty well known. However, I don't think that Matt's or Bob's intentions are in the wrong place and therefore I want to work with them to affect change.

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

smooch
BUT it is hard for me to be dispassionate about this subject when it happened to me and I didnt have a damn thing to do with any of it and had to watch Jenna spouting off her mouth about me in a post and post after post on this forum and SI...and when I FINALLY made a post about it...she deleted it. SHe could spout off all she wanted but victims werent allowed to respond.

so i have nothing else to say on the subject -

at least I dont think jenna can claim that Josef is one of the bankrupt three..though she now might make it the bankrupt four.

[JXM]

In fact, I think that the only post that has been deleted from this thread was one of yours.

[JXM]

Matt,
I just went through the conversation and I will point out that I agree with Lisa on most points. And dammit Lisa, if you stop yelling, it will be much easier for people to see your point (smooch, you know that I love ya!).

I think that there are a number of things that I would take exception to concerning your underlying premises. One would be that, since Jenna's thread is discussing stocks, that the ends justify the means. So, is it your view that the ends justify the means? That having orderly stock discussions is more important than having fair and unbalanced views? This is what appears to be the underlying philosophy of the site.

And dismissing a person's views because they have not posted about stocks or been a COB or whatever is pure business folly. If you want to grow this site, you have to start attracting new posters who will provide content. I have not been overly active on iHub because it hasn't proven itself to me yet. Yes, you do have to keep your existing customer base happy, but you have to attact new people. You should not have a bias on how you interpret the rules based on whether someone is a prolific poster or a newbie. You should apply the rules equitably regardless.

Further, you may envision this as a site for discussions about stocks, but the fact is, if you don't plan for it being something much more than that, it will not succeed. This needs to be a community where one of the things that we all have in common is stocks, but like in any other community, there will be a whole lot of other activities outside of the main interest.

If Jenna or anybody else is going to require that their little community (thread) is only about stocks and that if a post that isn't about stocks written by somebody that the COB does not like is deleted, then by rights, she or the COB should not ever post anything that isn't about stocks. That is, if you want things to be equitable.

So, no it is time for a trick question:

If a representative from Merrill Lynch started a thread on iHub with the intent of soliciting business, would you:
1. Allow it?
2. Allow open criticism of the existance of the thread?
3. Allow open criticism of Merrill Lynch's analysts on the thread?

BTW: the freakin logout problem is still here.

[Mattu]

By the way, I am still interested to know why your friend ..who knows alot about what has gone on behind the scene isnt really posting here and made this comment


>>She'll come around. So will you

MB

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

You ask for input about your site. You are getting it.

And people are getting the answers

By the way, I am still interested to know why your friend ..who knows alot about what has gone on behind the scene isnt really posting here and made this comment
You know..the friend that you know for a fact is not me.

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15670958

[Mattu]

Matt, I'll have to report you if you keep going like this. Now the real question: will your posts get deleted? I bet not!

>>I saw this post on SI and JXM was asked if he would post it here so I could respond. I am trying to allow input for the concept from those who wish to help move the site forward in it's development.

JXM has allowed this in the past. Plus, I know he is wanting to help move IH forward.

MB


P.S. I've had my posts removed by Chairman in the past! Didn't restore them :)

[JXM]

You are correct, none of these posts will be deleted. The next paragraph states this.

-----------------------------------------------------
It is understood that there will be disagreements on this thread. Watch what you say, cuz I believe that if you post something that makes you look like an idiot, that it should stand as evidence for everybody. The only exception that I will make is if there is personal information posted. In all cases, if I delete a message, I will identify exactly why it has been deleted and will suggest that the poster repost the message without the personal information.

[Mattu]

Oh Matt, you knew that Jenna was making statements that were not true. Are you going to deny that now?

>>Nope. Again, not my job.


Do you understand the nature of a factual question?

>>Do you understand the nature of a civil discussion about stocks?

MB

[R.Black]

Thread iBox: "This thread will be focused on trading both short and long, options and common. It is also a place where the traders on the thread can have off topic discussions if they so choose. But the primary objective should be exchanging information that helps each other trade"

Matt, I'll have to report you if you keep going like this. Now the real question: will your posts get deleted? I bet not!

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

>>"That "who" knows isn't true? As Bob is famous for saying "Only a judge can prove what is true and isn't"
Not my job, Lisa. Gets kind of touchy when it gets personal doesn't it? That's the issue that is up in air right
now, specifically with stocks. Who's to say what is true and false?"



Oh Matt, you knew that Jenna was making statements that were not true. Are you going to deny that now? In fact, my supposition is that you were having conversations with Lola about Jenna.

Do you really believe it is a judge that proves what is true?


By the way, a judge doesnt need to prove I am not Lola. You know that I am not Lola.

2. Should members be allowed to FACTUALLY question people touting a stock picking service about their
picks?

>>If you have facts, why are you asking a question?


Do you understand the nature of a factual question?

[Mattu]

1.Is it acceptable for a COB to make accusations that you know aren't true... which pretty much tells you (the owner)...that one requirement for libel is met... and then not give the victims an ability to respond?

>>That "who" knows isn't true? As Bob is famous for saying "Only a judge can prove what is true and isn't" Not my job, Lisa. Gets kind of touchy when it gets personal doesn't it? That's the issue that is up in air right now, specifically with stocks. Who's to say what is true and false?


2. Should members be allowed to FACTUALLY question people touting a stock picking service about their picks?

>>If you have facts, why are you asking a question?

MB

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

Let me be point blank:

1.Is it acceptable for a COB to make accusations that you know aren't true... which pretty much tells you (the owner)...that one requirement for libel is met... and then not give the victims an ability to respond?

2. Should members be allowed to FACTUALLY question people touting a stock picking service about their picks?

By the way, your characterization of what happened isnt factually correct as for one thing I WAS THE VICTIM..NOT THE INSTIGATOR AND WAS MAKING NONE OF THOSE POSTS TO HER ... AND YOU KNEW THAT STATEMENTS OF FACT MADE BY JENNA WERE FALSE...
but gosh..people that didnt witness what happened AS IT WAS HAPPENING might believe Jenna's nonsense because all that have to go on is Jenna's spin and your characterization. One would have had to see her in action to realize how off the wall she really was....or I guess they could go look at the numerous header changes on Silicon Investor to see her melt down



I am just wondering why your friend Lola isnt really posting on your site

[Mattu]

Lisa,

It's clear that you are dead set in your ways. There is no use in me even responding to all of your stuff because this will go on for weeks.

Plus, it's very hard for me to accept input from someone who hasn't really used the system for what's it's suppost to be used for. Talking about stocks. Maybe I skipped one in your history, but I haven't seen where you have used this place for what it was designed for.

Constructive criticism comes from those who have used something and want to improve it.

Nevertheless, if you want to move forward and offer *suggestions* instead of wanting me to go back on old stuff and redo this and that, I am willing to listen. I'm a forward looking guy. Tell me something I can do to further this concept for you.

matt

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

I HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY POSTS ON THIS SITE ABOUT HER UNTIL SHE
DRAGGED ME INTO THE MESS BY ACCUSING ME OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE
UNTRUE.

>>Such is life on the Internet. I get accused of things all the time.


AND WHAT DID YOU DO ABOUT IT WHEN IT HAPPENED TO YOU ON SI ?


Why don't you think about your culpability when you know something isn't true but you allow the statements of fact to stand.
YOU KNEW Jenna's many of Jenna's statements were FALSE and you let the accusations stand and the victims were not allowed to respond because Jenna was deleting the posts. Jenna's behavior exemplifies without a doubt the problems on this site and if you reinstate those posts I think people will have a MUCH better understanding about what some of us already know.


It is not PROVEN that I am Lola as Jenna claims because I am not Lola and you damn well know it. You also have a pretty good idea that I wasnt involved in any of that mess until SHE dragged me into it time and time again and my involvement was ONE post that I made to respond to her absolutely false statements.. ..that she deleted



>>Are either one of you suspended/terminated?


You miss the point. It is not about US being suspended. IT IS ABOUT THE COB behavior and what you think is acceptable.

After mind blowing accusation after accusation..many of which you KNEW were not true...I should have been allowed to respond with the post I made that I copied and pasted in this post...however it was deleted...as I knew it would be
because the VICTIM was not allowed to respond to BS that you KNEW wasn't true.

http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=77409



">>The information was promptly deleted and she should have been suspended. But given the situation,
everybody on the other side of the plate should have been suspended/terminated as well. But that didn't
happen."


Actually, no it wasn't. And after reviewing the posts you knew it was on the site because you were reading and responding to posts....and allowed it to stand for many hours with each incremental second causing more damage.


">>Bottom line is this. Look at her thread today. This is an investment discussion site. What are they talking
about over there now? Stocks. Just what it was intended to be."


really??? How can we know with her history of deleting messages. Also, do you think people should be allowed to question her since she is OBVIOUSLY advertising her service and her site..no matter how subtley or not so subltly she does it. Should people not be allowed to ask her questions. however, if they do..she deletes them.

For example. what about the CSCO call that you made that ended up with many people losing money...

She would delete that post. Shouldn't people be aware that she does cause people to lose money when she seems to promote that her calls are so fantastic.
I was a member of her site and I have the records of just what her calls have and have not done.

[Mattu]

I HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY POSTS ON THIS SITE ABOUT HER UNTIL SHE DRAGGED ME INTO THE MESS BY ACCUSING ME OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE UNTRUE.

>>Such is life on the Internet. I get accused of things all the time.


You of all people know that I am not Lola..just as one minor example. Look at the accusations she made about me and Lola.

>>Are either one of you suspended/terminated?


So since your terms of use are fairly clear..what should have happened to Jenna for publishing personal information with malicious intent?

>>The information was promptly deleted and she should have been suspended. But given the situation, everybody on the other side of the plate should have been suspended/terminated as well. But that didn't happen.

>>Bottom line is this. Look at her thread today. This is an investment discussion site. What are they talking about over there now? Stocks. Just what it was intended to be.

MB

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

"But for those people who's clear
intentions and SOLE posting histories indicate an obsession with a certain woman, there is no
hope in pointing things out to them. Because their goal is to destroy. So why bother?"


I would suggest that you reinstate and view those posts.
I HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY POSTS ON THIS SITE ABOUT HER UNTIL SHE DRAGGED ME INTO THE MESS BY ACCUSING ME OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE UNTRUE and some that you KNOW FOR A FACT ARE LIBELOUS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THEY WEREN'T TRUE.

ALL ***** YOU **** need to do is look at the people who were posting to know that I wasn't involved in any of it.

You of all people know that I am not Lola..just as one minor example. Look at the accusations she made about me and Lola. So neither of us should be allowed to respond????

I signed up this ID in order to address her accusations about ME and she summarily deleted my post.

So in your world..it would seem that the COB can say and do what they want and a person is not allowed to respond. Any obsession started with her and her MULTIPLE AND I MEAN MULTIPLE posts about me on this forum and another one. AND I HAD NOT MADE ONE SINGLE POST ABOUT HER ANYWHERE. Exactly how long is one to set back and watch a COB make accusation after accusation before they should respond?

I suggest you review the facts before you make accusations about me.

I fully believe those posts should be reinstated so that people can see what you think is acceptable on this site. The COB can make the most ridiculous accusations THAT YOU KNOW FOR A FACT THAT AREN'T TRUE and make MULTIPLE personal attacks.. and you say no terms of use are violated ..AND the victim is not allowed to respond?????????



So since your terms of use are fairly clear..what should have happened to Jenna for publishing personal information with malicious intent?

And as you see.. ..giving the COB the ability to hide her tracks because she knows how bad she looked gives her the ability obfuscate the truth

And I repeat..YOU OF ALL PEOPLE KNOW I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY OF IT AS SHE WAS MAKING THE WILD ACCUSATIONS. ANd certainly, you know I am not Lola. Lola was/is your friend. Why won't she post here anymore?