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Good call 12 - she is truly fucked, now let's see the dominoes fall
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-59435616
Seems all the posts here lately are f'em! posts
Fook this azzhole too then ;):
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59377699
Yup, and reverse this bullchit!:
..the release would protect the company’s family owners from future civil lawsuits, even though they were not debtors in the bankruptcy proceeding.
These concessions to so-called non-debtor third parties originated in the 1990s, when Congress passed legislation shielding insurers in the bankruptcy cases of industrial companies facing asbestos liability.
But judges later began granting third-party releases more freely, in particular to private equity firms accused by creditors of stripping the assets of portfolio companies that had landed in bankruptcy court.
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F'em, now take em out:
6 Steps to Restore Democracy & Defund the GOP
Reagan defunded the Democratic Party in 1981: And, really, it’s just a case of “turnabout is fair play.”
Yesterday I told you how the Republican Party is animated by one single force: greed.
And greed in modern society is all about money. Which is why money is how you take down the Republican Party.
To maintain their greed, the Republican Party has kept all kinds of good things from us, from healthcare to unionization to education to the ability to start a small business for yourself, your family and the future. All that has been eaten alive by their greed.
For Democrats to defund and thus defeat the Republican Party, all they have to do is put into place a few straightforward “good government” steps, all things that should happen in any case:
End Red State welfare. Kentucky gets $2.41 from the federal government for every tax dollar they send to Washington DC, giving Mitch McConnell billions in blue-state tax money to shower on his voters and maintain his power. Most other Red States are similarly “taker” states. So let’s fight for a law limiting states to no more than $1.50 for every dollar they send to DC in tax revenues and they have to pay for everything else by taxing their own in-state wealthy people. Call it Welfare Reform!
End corporate welfare that gets recycled to GOP politicians. This includes $600 billion a year to fossil fuel companies, about a trillion a year we give to Big Pharma (including forbidding Medicare from negotiating drug prices), and government subsidies to massive insurance companies like the “Medicare Advantage” scam that puts individual seniors and the entire Medicare system at risk.
End corporate monopolies that fund the GOP. Break up giant corporations and make America safe again for small businesses, which build local economies. From utilities to tech to banking and retail, giant monopolies rip off working-class Americans to the tune of an average $5000 per-family per-year, and use some of that money to fund Republican politicians. (Breaking up monopolies is actually good for both the nation and the companies themselves: when Nixon & SCOTUS in 1974 initiated the breakup of AT&T into 7 regional companies and Lucent, completed in 1984, it actually increased shareholder value and led to an innovation explosion.)
Bring back Eisenhower’s 91% top tax bracket to restore the middle class that votes Democratic. America’s strongest economy was 1950 to 1980, with a top tax bracket of 91% to 74%. We built highways, schools, hospitals, and put men on the moon. CEOs averaged only 30x the pay their employees took. Democrats ran virtually everything, even in what we now call Red States. Then the Supreme Court changed the rules of the game, money flooded the GOP in 1980, Reagan cut that top bracket to 25%, and the billionaires it produced continue to pour cash into the GOP.
Impose Elizabeth Warren’s 2% tax on great fortunes and use it to fund healthcare and education for working-class voters. Average Americans pay a wealth tax every year: it’s the property tax on their largest store of wealth, their homes. That annual wealth/property tax pays for schools, libraries, police, fire and other essential infrastructure. Billionaires, like average homeowners, should pay their fair share of the cost of the commons through a similar annual tax on their money bins and other investments.
Reverse Citizen’s United to end the GOP’s campaign money from corporations, SuperPACs and billionaires’ ability to skew our politics. We did this in the 1970s after the Nixon bribery scandals, but the Supreme Court blew it up, saying that money was speech. There are multiple ways around that, and the Democratic Party should make this job one. (HR1 is a great start!)
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Indeed,
today’s destructive dynamics express a tension that has been evident within democracy since
before democracy was born.For as long as the idea of popular rule has existed, thoughtful
observers and statesmen—both those who supported democracy and those who opposed it—have
asked the fundamental question: What happens when an economic system that concentrates
wealth in the hands of the few co-exists with a political system that gives the ballot to the many?..
Social scientists studying struggles to establish democracy across the globe have fixated
on the same question. They have long seen extreme inequality as something of a triple threat to
democracy. It empowers economic elites. It cleaves their interests from those of less fortunate
citizens. And, as a result, it encourages them to view democracy as a mortal danger to their
privileges of status, power and property...
In finding grounds for successful political contestation, can conservatives create a politics that is
multi-faceted and relatively stable? Or do they create one that is increasingly extreme and
dangerous? The risks are evident.The greater the degree of inequality, the greater the need for
conservatives to make strong appeals to alternative motivations. If inequality is growing over
time, it will likely be necessary to amplify the nature of those appeals...
[.. call everything fake news, including election results, create boogeymen, faut patriotism, delicate/precious/widdle Capitalism under threat, lol.., etc, - the ole' razzle dazzle ]
https://www.law.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Hacker_Pierson_APSA_2019.pdf
Complete unmitigated Bullshit.
LOL!, awesomeness ;)..
“The British have followed this family for a long time, and there was a feeling that Ghislaine must have transferred her relationship with her father on to another man who was quite similar in many ways.”
It now seems this is not quite true. Researchers on the documentary believe that, long before Robert Maxwell’s death, Epstein was busily building his high-profile contacts, those names in his notorious “little black book”, from Ghislaine’s own friends and acquaintances.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/27/ghislaine-maxwell-began-to-share-little-black-book-with-epstein-as-early-as-the-1980s
14 day quarantine at the Hilton not a holiday
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-55851074
Graham Saul’s assertion that environmentalism has a message problem is absurd. Environmentalism does not have a communication problem, it has failed because there is no capacity to solve environmental problems within the constraints of global neoliberal capitalism. There is no message problem, the message should be clear to all by now - that global capitalism is destroying the ecological foundation for human life on this planet - the problem is that we lost any capacity to impose democratic controls on industry.
The problem is a lack of democratic control over the oligarchical corporate state. Even Mr. Saul’s own analysis reveal his error. He points to the abolitionist movement and the civil rights movement as success stories that environmentalist should emulate. And indeed environmentalist should emulate them but not for the reasons Mr Saul asserts. It was not branding or some slick communications strategy that made these movements successful but rather these were democratic movements that appealed to human values to impose democratic controls on the worst excesses of capitalist accumulation - in this case it was democracy against slavery and racial discrimination.
I do agree with Mr. Saul in one respect though, we do need to get out of our “ethical fog” on the problem of neoliberal capitalism. The time for polite conversation is over. You can communicate until the end of time, but without a democratic transformation of our economy away from our current system of global authoritarian corporatist rule, we will never have the capacity to address the environmental crisis nor the accompanying social crisis for that matter.
Letter section: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/environmentalists-what-are-we-fighting-for-an-environmentalist-argues-it-s-not-clear-1.4917208
That moment when ur lawyer asks
"Is there anything else?"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/29/ghislaine-maxwell-new-charges-jeffrey-epstein
Me thinks this will take some time to prepare..
Oh boy, second gran on the way (should I say something?)
Woman in the vid was striking.
Lol, Fat chance......Here is a new one
https://www.livescience.com/amp/new-environmental-chemicals-pfas-pregnant-woment.html
I think we are past the point of anyone saving us.....
The Ferengi did themselves in, so worried about trinkets and pieces of paper they gave value to..
Like the battle of the 5 armies only with no winner, we assault ourselves from every conceivable direction.
I always wanted to get back to locally grown food and craftsmanship to keep rural America employed and disaster proof...but
The earth itself has a virus and nature's cure is for the virus to kill itself off? Could be..
There is a very good chance however that humans will make it after all......Society is on track to breakdown (which is another thing we are collectively ignoring) not so unlike the great Rome....There will be survivors who can start anew and perhaps get it right next time around....
B4, seems like you were right all along and probably
Deserve an apology from Bull et al..
“It’s not going away, basically, because it’s greed,” he said. “I don’t think there will be a successful effort to end greed in this world.”
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That's really hitting below the belt.
Don't we have super computers that can crunch data like
The science found in that article and put it all together?.
I think I gave up on back to the land for humanity
For practical reasons closely related to your point
So, all there is left as I can see is the 'waiting for godot'
Technological Fix!.
Is it too late for bio-plastics?
(did you know plastic is a $2T industry?)
Lotta stakeholders in need of a lot of wooden stakes
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/18/toxic-chemicals-health-humanity-erin-brokovich
Yeah, we are right up there in intelligence
That was great/on point, thanks.. insults were pretty good too ;).
Still keepin' an eye on Ghislaine as I think it an important test
Of how these power structures are treated.
Shifty-eyed brother says "not fair" and sis sufferin'..
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56344553
What a great post 12.....The Ferengi...
The Ferengi are a fictional extraterrestrial species in the American science fiction franchise Star Trek
Note the word fictional..
I'm sure you understand my meaning......I truly doubt any civilization that holds money in such great esteem and doesn't grow its society makes it to the advanced stage....
Can we make it to being an advanced civilization? Not on the path we are following.....
How many times have I heard "I will not pay more for my chicken wings" or "If Americans do it now it would be too expensive" all putting objects in higher regard to the human beings...And if someone has to stay in poverty to get my object cheaply that's ok with me and justify in by saying I am helping them.... ;)
They even go so far as to support those that bring them the finest trinkets at the cheapest price....Like praying to the biblical Golden Calf in Christian religion...
This is not lost on the human beings...it creates "feelings"
Sooner or later those feelings become overwhelming..... Someone taps into those feelings
We are herd animals or at least group animals..... Therefore we must be lead......Which is what is failing us and always does as the leaders lose touch with the masses because they have been separated from them......They lose sight of dignity and society as a whole. They only look at their own place in society and judge the whole by what they enjoy....
That is where planet earth finds itself today...The Ferengi didn't make it, their society needed to be broken down and started anew...Painful though it may be, sad as it is...
By definition Civilization starts with civility and that is lost on a society the puts Monetary Interest above all else...
Yes B4, you paint a picture of a society that has lost it's moorings
Is that not the inevitability of pluralism/individual freedom?
You may sound like the Orthopedist who wants to put
Society in traction to repair it's broken moral spine.
(if everyone could just go back to church or boy scouts again ;)
Sure there is ingenious technocratic manipulation
Like data mining and gerry mandering but
That technology is also the reason we can talk about it.
I think you give humans too much credit for organization.
Although, China just arrested 47 Hong Kong politicians and
Passed a law only "Patriots" can run in the future.
Sights squarely on Taiwan now.
How do "sanctions" work on the only developing country
Whose GDP went up last year?.
Seems like everyone is sanctioning each other
Isn't that called the marketplace?.
"The price of everything is becoming the value of everything"
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Reminds me of former PM Jean Chretien who said re NAFTA
"The Americans do not buy a single thing they don't want
And the same is true for Canada"
(negotiation brings one to the sweet spot and I suppose howlin' at the moon has it's place, not sure.. ;).
What would work?
Addressing the important that we gloss over like Jan 6......Not that is was a successful coup but it set a standard...The outrage was justified, but just acting out for a day or week does not intervene... People just feel better and move on...
Once the voices of good rose above the din at needed times....Now they are drown out....
Dr Seuss is headlined..... Media Divided.....Lies persist for the anti-elite to gain power...Myanmar ignored....On to spectacle or pop culture......Scandal.....Ignore.....Dems give it all, Repubs take it all...
You and I know the bottom line is greed and accessing success by wealth which leads to stagnation then poverty....
While we stay distracted and the problems of the planet grow the ignorant masses only know what they feel, that has always been the way and what makes them so dangerous and so unpredictable...
What would work is what won't happen....Triple the number of teachers, Triple the number of elected officials, cut the size of corporations to increase the number of businesses,,,,I could go on forever, so could you
Drifter said it best "We are a society not an economy"
A quick reference......Here in our valley, if we see a poisonous snake we kill it or their numbers will grow and the inevitable will happen, if we see one on the other side of the river it lives....
We as a society have blurred the line of what is acceptable and what is not, hence the inevitable is just that...
The masses are fickle and rarely organized
Enjoy it while you can,.. apparently party time is coming
As early as this summer ;)
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canadian-economy-weath-recession-rebound-1.5933651
Cheers!, out.
12, as you know, I'm afraid that we will be here to see the elite cry.......
And we will all shed tears as society crumbles...Not so unlike when the great Rome fell and we lost advancements for 1000 yrs...
Sad part is I think it is necessary, for just like Rome lost its way, so too have we and as a society we are failing...
No worries, I think I understand your views, as usual I use you as a conduit to express my own.....Only difference is I see it from a different perspective, from that of the masses the are grumbling to the point that an earthquake is more and more imminent..
Its funny trying to spread the word to the elite who have been in Versailles for so long and so many generations they can't fathom they could possibly be wrong or things are really getting so bad...
They don't understand anything past their own front yard....And don't realize that as they are frustrated with arguing with a Trump supporter, they are no better in their own way....
Not clear on what you think would work
Seems to me Rep and Dem power structures
Are not going anywhere
And Jan 6 was simply a power play
Not well organized, not decisive,
Symbolically large but not otherwise.
That next day on that other board I moreless said
The same thing while everyone was freaking out.
There wasn't a chance in hell of a successful coup.
16M employees - largest organization in the world.
A unified vision often works, a war, act of God, etc,..
Agree, not in a good position to respond to the next one
Which will be more nuanced like the present Pandemic
Or the marching roll out/inevitable Climate Crisis
Agree B4, just providing the statistical facts
One day neither of us will witness
The Elites will be marching in the streets
Wanting their private islands and jets back ;).
Why is Jan 6 so important?
It was an attack on democracy at a crucial moment by a sitting president....
Like with kids there are degrees of wrong...Some can be brushed off with a knowing look others you need to send a stronger message...
Impeachment was a joke and a second bungled and hurried attempt by the dems....Not that the house managers did a bad job...
When you let kids off the hook for bad behavior, not only have you reinforced it but you also fail to address the underlying reasons..
We are getting very good a ignoring the underlying, then wonder why things get worse....
The elite are too comfortable to really care, the poor unable to rally and the masses of the middle keep score in a quiet yet stern manner...
Lots of bubbles are being lined up to burst...
And these children that you spit on as they try and change their world are immune to your consultation they are quite aware of what they are going through...
Although each generation has had their own adversity.....Few have had the almost hidden but certain troubles that lie ahead....
Its easy to say, I won't be here for it, but what cowards we are to say it.....In the past the older generation only wanted a better world for their children.....Something changed when the generation of the baby boomers said I want as much as I can get....Oops, Sorry, my bad, we kinda took it all and kinda Fkd things up, but hey, no worries, I won't be here, and, BTW, GL! All with a smile and a wink and a nod......
Society, Lol
No worries B4, it won't be our generation anyhew.. but "grinding attrition".
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/10/31/societies-change-their-minds-faster-than-people-do?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/societieschangetheirmindsfasterthanpeopledotalkinboutmygeneration
I'm sure politics come into play in the various security orgs.
Influence. But, I can understand/agree with the army's position clearly stated a week before the riot .. there was no way in hell they were getting involved. No Tienanmen Square - sorry. As I understand it the buck that day stopped with the Capital Police. Guess who was ultimately in charge there?.
Not into details B4 but if you can tell me what you think happened in a nutshell I'd be interested. I just figure Trump's people said "let my people express themselves, go light on police".
Anyhow, not just political factions vying for power and control
But, the super rich are bickering!.
It's a long read but I got up early, and it's golf, and it's global movement of money, and global shift in power, and reverse colonialism, and M.A.D., enjoy!.. ;)
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/mar/02/wentworth-golf-club-reignwood-yan-bin?utm_source=pocket-newtab
News of the day, yet goes by with a mere mention or none at all..
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/03/03/dc-national-guard-chief-capitol-attack-473266
No, there is a lot to comment on but we keep on missing what needs to be concentrated on...Can't put all the thought into words, we just keep missing the mark and barrel on....
The national guard could have had people at the Capital in 20 mins...It took 3+ hours to get permission from the Sec of Defense,,,,The Sec of Defense changed the rules just the day before and said there could be no deployment without his permission...
Fair enough B4, terms agreeable.
The Obsolete Man
More than one thing can be taken from this old Twilight Zone clip I ran across.....
Past the obvious reference to the evil we now face may be a reason we face
“Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the work, dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete.”
Wow!, good research there B4!
I believe the natural world in which we are a bit player
Has all we need to know
Just need to listen better
[I know I really like the look, the smell, the softness, the mystery, the unknowableness, etc,.. didn't know I was that smart though ;]
You nailed that one.....
Here is one you may well appreciate
The Congo River......On one side of it are the chimpanzee, which we evolved from....One the other Are the bonobo. (Which you may have heard of ;)
There are stark differences in the two in how they go about things yet are very similar physically....
One may well say we came from the wrong side of the tracks ;)
https://phys.org/news/2020-12-genomes-pathways-chimpanzee-bonobo-divergence.html
Bonobos and chimpanzees closely resemble one another physically and they were not recognized as separate species until the 1930s. Their behavioral differences are much more distinct. While bonobos organize into female-led societies, chimpanzees are patriarchal. When bonobos encounter other bonobo groups they generally interact peacefully. Bonobos are also known for using sexual behaviors to defuse tension—including same-sex behaviors among females. Chimpanzees, however, tend to act more aggressively when encountering other chimpanzee groups and may even have violent exchanges that include fatalities.
Hey B4!.. located some!
.. no philosophy or pop culture or vague attempt at wisdom nor wit..
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Yup, in some people's world like the super rich
Everything is a price transaction
Sexploit children, then bargain ur freedom for
Citizenship or a lock on ur blood money
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56181754
Speakin' of which 12, this is one of the more
Reflective and Insightful things I've listened to
To Save the Planet in a good while:
It's part one of three and almost an hour
So go organize and clean the shop or something
And take a refreshing break from reading
Wannabe Elites tired drivel that annoys ur bud B4 so much ;)
"The price of everything is becoming the value of everything"
https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-23-ideas/clip/15826098-bbc-reith-lectures-mark-carney-part-one
It's good to take a step back and take stock so to speak
Once in a while. Or, just borrow it and take it later ;).
Sorry about no philosophy or pop culture or vague attempt at wisdom nor wit..
Its tough watching us doing all the wrong things....
Tougher still not being able to do anything about it...
The list keeps growing and at every opportunity to turn we barrel on.
I Know how the folks that shorted the housing market in advance felt,,,
Would say enough already, but not yet....
Did think restricting trades was dirty dealin'.
10 brokers, 13 stocks, 5 days.......And here is what our gov got out of it..
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/02/19/aoc-wants-robinhood-to-return-payment-for-order-flow-profits.html
Point being if they can be so wrong about this subject think of all the other subjects they only think they are right about...Especially the ones that only effect 95% of the country and well over half the population......
Dunning Kruger,
But you can't tell them a thing, explain or even show them
Thanks, good update.. turning the screws - hope they find the
Treasure trove.
Sick system. Monopolies.
A flash in the pan sir,,,
Headlines one day and new laws will be enforced on the common folk not the elite..
The uprising will be quelled with a few sacrificial lambs then that will be that....Not so unlike the Me Too movement...
They got Maxwell and Epstein but do you think for a second that Prince Phillips, Trump, Clinton or Dershowitz will ever be held accountable??
Nah, It is a great example of no elite accountability and as the number of examples grow in many aspects of society it is not lost on the common people
Video out there somewhere and plenty of payments too I'm sure
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9270769/amp/Ghislaine-Maxwell-admitted-Jeffrey-Epstein-DID-tapes-Donald-Trump-Clintons-2016.html
Texas.....Isn't cost cutting wonderful?
95% or more of this country has been affected by cost cutting for decades now......
Institutions are unaffected but consequences always find their way...
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