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Spallenzani

05/06/03 7:01 PM

#6215 RE: was Graywolf #6212

Re: stealing vs. not stealing cable

I think this issue is similar to the debate over intellectual property rights. The cost of the "theft" that occurs when Neuro uses the cable tv for free is only an opportunity cost; he deprives the cable company of the revenues it would have received had Neuro decided to pay for it. But the actual cost of the resource itself, the power needed to disseminate the signal to one additional user, is negligible or even nonexistent. So too, if I purchase one movie ticket and, after watching the movie I paid for, stay and watch one or two more, I have not burdened the theater with any additional cost, other than if I took up a seat in a sold-out theater.

If Neuro believes that he would not buy cable otherwise, but might as well enjoy it if its "free", and if I believe that I would not have purchased those additional movie tickets otherwise, but might as well enjoy viewing the movies if they are "free", then what have I or Neuro stolen? That is, if there is no opportunity cost, there is no cost at all.

As for the moral question, I don't know. Again, I think that is a personal judgement, based on whether you truly believe you would have purchased the product otherwise. But in terms of causing actual harm, I don't see any.
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Neuromancer

05/13/03 11:56 PM

#6309 RE: was Graywolf #6212

No Offense

I guess I'm agreeing with you too, as in your original post, you yourself stated that the best thing about broadband is the ability to steal analog cable TV signals.

I often use colorful metaphors in my posts. Besides, one can steal yet not be a thief (and before you question the logic of this last statement please check your local sports page for baseball statistics).

Ifyou think it is ok, why don't you tell the cable company you are doing it and see what happens.

Actually, I did. The dim bulb who answered the phone said "Don't worry about it".

I don't consider that remark contracturally binding either...

The logistics of mailing two different magazines in the same package are completely different than those involved in providing cable service.

Hmmm. Oddly you didn't object to the naked hairy men analogy.

Let me repeat: Despite what Dennis believes you are not obligated to pay for services you never ordered (or wanted).